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WoodenBeast | I'm having a bit of trouble getting FreeOrion to run. I'm running Windows Vista, I have all the necessary system requirements and the necessary framework, yet it crashes as soon as I run it. The black box opens up, and the game window, but the game window stops responding. | 01:33 |
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WoodenBeast | I cannot seem to find any logs. | 01:33 |
WoodenBeast | I know it is not the vistas firewall or antivirus, I've disabled both of them temporarily as I was attempting to run the game. | 01:34 |
WoodenBeast | I'm using v. 0.3.13, the latest one | 01:36 |
WoodenBeast | My graphics card is ATI Radeon Xpres 1150 | 01:39 |
GeofftheMedio | do you know what version of opengl your card supports? | 01:43 |
GeofftheMedio | logs should be in C:\Users\Username\AppData\Roaming\FreeOrion | 01:43 |
WoodenBeast | ^^ I'm not sure | 01:44 |
STalKer-X | looks like a laptop graphics card | 01:44 |
WoodenBeast | It is | 01:45 |
WoodenBeast | I found the Ogre log | 01:45 |
WoodenBeast | I don't suppose though that you'd appreciate it if I were to post the whole thing. | 01:47 |
GeofftheMedio | search for the part about opengl version | 01:47 |
GeofftheMedio | GL_VERSION = | 01:48 |
WoodenBeast | 01:27:13: GL_VERSION = 1.1.0 | 01:49 |
GeofftheMedio | that's waaay to low, unfortunately... | 01:50 |
GeofftheMedio | you might not even be able to run the versions prior to v0.3.11 which had significantly lower gl requirements than we do now | 01:50 |
GeofftheMedio | although you can try | 01:50 |
GeofftheMedio | might want to make sure your drivers are fully up to date, though | 01:50 |
GeofftheMedio | in case the gl version increased | 01:50 |
WoodenBeast | What is OpenGL? | 01:50 |
WoodenBeast | Graphics Level? | 01:51 |
GeofftheMedio | it's a 3D graphics rendering library or interface | 01:51 |
GeofftheMedio | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL | 01:51 |
tpb | Title: OpenGL - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) | 01:51 |
WoodenBeast | My drivers are updated though | 01:51 |
WoodenBeast | I'm completely unable to play FreeOrion with this computer then? | 01:52 |
GeofftheMedio | you might try getting radeon omega drivers, which might be more up to date than whatever your laptop manufacturer provides | 01:53 |
GeofftheMedio | http://www.omegadrivers.net/ati.php | 01:53 |
tpb | Title: OmegaDrivers.net - Home of the ATI & NVIDIA Omega Drivers. ATI (at www.omegadrivers.net) | 01:53 |
GeofftheMedio | but even if you do get updated drivers, it's unlikely you'll be able to get the latest version of FreeOrion running on that graphics card | 01:53 |
STalKer-X | i doubt though that this graphics card only supports ogl 1.1 | 01:55 |
GeofftheMedio | wikipedia seems to think it should be capable of gl 2.0 | 01:57 |
GeofftheMedio | check out those omega drivers. find the newest that support your card. | 01:57 |
WoodenBeast | http://www.omegadrivers.net/ati_vista.php "Coming Soon" -______- | 01:58 |
tpb | Title: OmegaDrivers.net - Home of the ATI & NVIDIA Omega Drivers. ATI Windows Vista (at www.omegadrivers.net) | 01:58 |
STalKer-X | hehe | 01:58 |
STalKer-X | maybe you have to activate ogl 2.0 in the options | 01:59 |
GeofftheMedio | ok, try googling. after 10 seconds: http://driverscollection.com/?H=Radeon%20Xpress%201150&By=ATI | 02:00 |
tpb | <http://ln-s.net/3J8n> (at driverscollection.com) | 02:00 |
GeofftheMedio | and you said your drivers are updated, but how do you know that? did you get drivers from ATI, or just windows update or your laptop manufacturer? if the latter, try from ATI directly. | 02:03 |
WoodenBeast | I'm not completely IT literate, so I wouldn't know how to get the most out of my graphics card. I always updated through Windows Update. | 02:04 |
WoodenBeast | Damn Microsoft. I trusted them. I figured that if I clicked the update button, and it told me that it was fully updated, then it was indeed fully updated @_@ | 02:09 |
GeofftheMedio | it's probably a bit more complicated than that... | 02:11 |
GeofftheMedio | the manufacturer probably specifies what driver versions they've approved, and MS won't give you anything that's not approved | 02:11 |
GeofftheMedio | and the manufacturer probably doesn't bother updating their approved drivers | 02:11 |
WoodenBeast | Hahaha | 02:13 |
WoodenBeast | I'm installing it now | 02:14 |
WoodenBeast | will I have to restart the computer? | 02:16 |
WoodenBeast | wait | 02:17 |
WoodenBeast | obviously not | 02:17 |
WoodenBeast | I got it to run | 02:17 |
WoodenBeast | Thanks a lot! I believe this actually solves a number of problems of mine. | 02:17 |
GeofftheMedio | you probably want to turn off a few options on the galaxy map options tab | 02:19 |
GeofftheMedio | before trying to start a game | 02:19 |
GeofftheMedio | gas rendering, background starfields, optimized system rendering | 02:20 |
GeofftheMedio | fog of war scanlines | 02:20 |
WoodenBeast | Yes, with the default options, the game is almost unbearably low FPS | 02:25 |
STalKer-X | heh | 02:28 |
STalKer-X | i remember trying to play it on my old 350mhz computer, 5 years ago :x | 02:28 |
STalKer-X | hm, maybe even longer :p | 02:29 |
WoodenBeast | thanks for all the help, I'm going to get some rest | 03:28 |
WoodenBeast | g'night | 03:28 |
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kroddn | GeofftheMedio: that Intel Drivers seem to Software-Enable those OpenGL 2.0 stuff | 13:20 |
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GeofftheMedio_ | which intel drivers...? | 20:10 |
kroddn | the new ones you wrote about | 20:28 |
kroddn | which enable open gl 2.0 | 20:28 |
kroddn | i think that open gl 2.0 is only a software version | 20:29 |
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GeofftheMedio_ | the other day was ATI, not intel | 23:04 |
GeofftheMedio_ | unless there's another set of drivers I was talking about but forget now... | 23:04 |
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