Wednesday, 2009-05-20

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CIA-22FreeOrion: geoffthemedio * r3065 /trunk/FreeOrion/Xcode/ (. FreeOrion.xcodeproj/ FreeOrion.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj): Added Mac XCode project submitted by .Id on forums03:12
CIA-22FreeOrion: kroddn * r3066 /trunk/FreeOrion/loki_setup/setup.data/bin/Linux/x86/ (glibc-2.1/setup.gtk2 uninstall): New Linux setup Binaries (loki installer) built on Debian Sarge05:48
kroddnGeofftheMedio: any new info about the release time?05:53
GeofftheMediono... I thought he was waiting for your OK05:54
GeofftheMedioyou should probably email him that you're done the translation and are ready to release, and can he bump the version number and make any final changes and let you know what revision will be the release05:58
kroddnI thought I already made that clear06:06
kroddnDidn't you receive a CC of my mail?06:07
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GeofftheMedio_I got your CC, but it's not really clear what your point is in it06:18
GeofftheMedio_it says you did some translation, ubuntu 9.04 doesn't work and the release should note this.06:18
GeofftheMedio_it doesn't say if you're ready to release, or what you need from him to be ready.06:19
GeofftheMedio_I suggest writing to say you're ready to make a binary as soon as he picks a revision to use for the release and updates SVN accordingly, and that he should email you when he's done that and tell you to use the latest SVN as of when he sends the email06:20
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GeofftheMedio_did you get those messages (starting with I got your CC...) ?06:32
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kroddnoMobilGeofftheMedio_: maybe my other PC got it :-)06:39
GeofftheMedio_[03:18]<GeofftheMedio_>I got your CC, but it's not really clear what your point is in it06:40
GeofftheMedio_[03:18]<GeofftheMedio_>it says you did some translation, ubuntu 9.04 doesn't work and the release should note this.06:40
GeofftheMedio_[03:19]<GeofftheMedio_>it doesn't say if you're ready to release, or what you need from him to be ready.06:40
GeofftheMedio_[03:20]<GeofftheMedio_>I suggest writing to say you're ready to make a binary as soon as he picks a revision to use for the release and updates SVN accordingly, and that he should email you when he's done that and tell you to use the latest SVN as of when he sends the email06:40
kroddnoMobilI already told him that06:40
kroddnoMobilI thought the content of my email made it clear that i am ready06:42
GeofftheMedio_not in the email I saw06:43
GeofftheMedio_as I just wrote, all you said was that you did some translation, and that the release should note that ubuntu 9.04 doesn't work06:43
kroddnoMobil"I did some work on the german translation, that should be ready for release."06:45
kroddnoMobilnext time i will explicitly write that I am ready06:45
GeofftheMedio_it's not clear what "that should be ready for release" means06:45
GeofftheMedio_the comma doesn't realy make sense06:46
kroddnoMobilAnd one hour ago i wrote:06:46
kroddnoMobilHi Zach,06:46
kroddnoMobilI added german translations and a newer loki installer. It would be06:46
kroddnoMobilgreat if we could release today.06:46
kroddnoMobilGreetings,06:46
kroddnoMobilMarkus06:46
GeofftheMedio_I didn't get one from an hour ago06:46
kroddnoMobili did no CC06:47
GeofftheMedio_although, he also asked you to tell him when you had a linux version ready, or what you needed from him06:47
kroddnoMobilIf you want, I will CC you in future communications06:47
GeofftheMedio_I don't need to be CC'd, but you said earlier that you had, so I thought you only had sent the one I did get a copy of06:48
kroddnoMobilI already told him that I am ready on May 17th06:48
GeofftheMedio_then why did he ask you on May 19th to tell him when you had a linux version ready?06:48
kroddnoMobilI am waiting for him to release :-)06:49
kroddnoMobil?06:50
kroddnoMobilThat was my reply06:50
GeofftheMedio_do you have a binary ready from a few days ago?  the one you release should be from the latest SVN at the time he makes a release06:50
GeofftheMedio_so that you get the updated version numbers and the bug fixes from the last few days06:50
kroddnoMobilAs soon as tzlaine releases his win32 version and tells me which SVN/GG Version he used, I will do the same06:50
GeofftheMedio_did you tell him that?  explicitly?06:51
GeofftheMedio_that's what I think he wants to hear from you...06:51
kroddnoMobilHave a look at this:06:51
kroddnoMobilhttp://freeorion.psitronic.de/download/nightly/06:51
tpbTitle: Index of /download/nightly (at freeorion.psitronic.de)06:51
kroddnoMobilThat are my release-ready versions06:51
GeofftheMedio_since he asked what you need to make your binary...06:51
kroddnoMobildamn...06:52
kroddnoMobili'll write him again :-)06:52
GeofftheMedio_not really release ready, sine the version numbers haven't been updated by him yet06:52
kroddnoMobilI wonder why he does not reply and tells what he plans06:54
GeofftheMedio_well, it's 4 AM here, meaning it's 6 AM where he lives as far as I know.  he's probably asleep06:55
GeofftheMedio_or if you meant from emails from a few days ago, probably because you didn't answer his question or ask him anything.06:55
GeofftheMedio_so your email (the one you CC'd me on) seemed just like a status update, to which no reply was necessary06:56
kroddnoMobilThat's right, but he did not answer any emal since may 17th06:56
GeofftheMedio_you sent him one a few days before the one he sent you on the 19th?06:57
kroddnoMobil6AM ... here it's 13AM06:57
GeofftheMedio_that seems unlikely06:57
GeofftheMedio_what with it being impossible and all...06:57
kroddnoMobilWhen its 12pm here it should be 5pm in his timezone?06:58
GeofftheMedio_by 12 PM do you mean noon (correct) or midnight (which is 12 AM) ?06:58
kroddnoMobildamn06:59
GeofftheMedio_?06:59
kroddnoMobili hate those time things06:59
GeofftheMedio_just use a 24 hour clock, if you prefer06:59
kroddnoMobilwould be better ^^07:00
GeofftheMedio_if it's 12:00 for you, it's about 6:00 for him, give or take an hour07:00
GeofftheMedio_if it's 24:00 for you, it's about 18:00 for him07:00
GeofftheMedio_now it's 13:00, so it's about 7:00 for him... or actually it's probably 6:00 and all my other times are off by an hour, but close enough.07:01
kroddnoMobil^^07:02
kroddnoMobilso 12pm is noon but 11am is one hour before noon?07:02
kroddnoMobilI don't believe that...07:02
GeofftheMedio_AM is antimeridian... ie. before the meridian.  PM is post meridian, ie. after the meridian.  The idea is that the sun has passed over the 12th meridian away from the date line07:04
kroddnoMobilLet me say one thing: it's great that tzlaine waits for me... maybe I should add that in my next message.07:05
GeofftheMedio_so since the day starts at 12:00 and it's before the meridian, it's 12 AM at the the start of the day, which is midnight07:05
kroddnoMobiland then 1 AM after that?07:06
kroddnoMobilI should have learned that at school in class 4, but it seems that I forgot about all that ^^07:06
GeofftheMedio_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12-hour_clock#Confusion_at_noon_and_midnight07:07
tpb<http://ln-s.net/2Fik> (at en.wikipedia.org)07:07
kroddnoMobillol07:08
GeofftheMedio_reading that, my whole logic thing there is apparently wrong...07:08
kroddnoMobilbut 5pm was correct07:08
GeofftheMedio_it's just convention07:08
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GeofftheMedio_yeah, so in north america we go 10:00 AM, 11:00 AM, 11:59 AM, 12:00 PM, 1:00 PM, 11:00 PM, 11:59 PM, 12:00 AM, 1:00 AM, etc.07:12
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CIA-22FreeOrion: kroddn * r3067 /trunk/FreeOrion/loki_setup/setup.data/bin/Linux/x86/setup: Loki command line installer fixed (ncurses statically linked)07:32
kroddnoMobilGeofftheMedio_: I thing the dev blogs at the forums should not be commented by other users07:40
kroddnoMobilPostings like "This looks great" blow topics up07:41
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STalKer-Xif it is possible manually moderate these forums09:35
STalKer-Xso only useful posts will be allowed09:35
kroddnoMobilI don't want to decide that alone, GeofftheMedio_ has to - if he thinks we should delete them, i have no problem in moderating there09:42
kroddnoMobilGeofftheMedio_: received positive feedback on r3066 linux version from Arkham (forum-user)11:01
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CIA-22FreeOrion: geoffthemedio * r3068 /trunk/FreeOrion/ (35 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed)14:32
CIA-22FreeOrion: Some big changes I've been holding back, but have decided to commit now since there won't be a release for a few days at least. This probably breaks something that I haven't noticed yet...14:32
CIA-22FreeOrion: -Reorganized and/or rewrote SidePanel, MapWnd and BuildDesignatorWnd system selection, refreshing and updating to use more static methods for shared state14:32
CIA-22FreeOrion: -Made SidePanel signals bookeeping happen statically, rather than duplicating for each individual SidePanel.14:32
CIA-22FreeOrion: -Reorganized and/or rewrote how14:32
CIA-22FreeOrion: -Fixed issues with autoselection of a planet as a build location when opening the production screen.14:32
CIA-22FreeOrion: -Changed how planet panel "highlighting" is done. Now nonselectable planet14:32
GeofftheMedio_kroddn: the dev blogs themselves, at least for me and tzlaine, and possbly pd, are locked so only mods can post to them.  comments are supposed to go in a separate thread14:33
GeofftheMedio_also, that big patch I just committed changed the english stringtable a bit.  I was going to hold it until a release if one was coming in the next few days, but since it'll be delayed a bit more, I needed to get it committed14:34
GeofftheMedio_the stringtable changes are just the removal of 7 strings, so your translation should still work14:41
kroddnoMobiltsts15:06
kroddnoMobilthats a lot of stuff15:12
kroddnoMobilI hope that all compiles on linux15:13
GeofftheMedio_test it out and let me know.  none of the changes are particularly fancy or likely to cause problems on different compilers, I think15:14
kroddnoMobilUI/About.cpp:34: error: 'MultieditIntColor' is not a member of 'ClientUI'15:24
kroddnoMobilAlready reported at sourceforge15:26
kroddnoMobilI'll fix that15:28
kroddnoMobilGeofftheMedio_: will you commit zha fix or shell I ?15:37
CIA-22FreeOrion: geoffthemedio * r3069 /trunk/FreeOrion/UI/About.cpp: Added missed file from previous commit, fixing bug 2794527 MultieditIntColor is not a member of ClientUI15:40
CIA-22FreeOrion: geoffthemedio * r3070 /trunk/FreeOrion/default/ (pl_stringtable.txt rus_stringtable.txt):15:53
CIA-22FreeOrion: -Polish stringtable update by Cyber Killer from Wiki15:53
CIA-22FreeOrion: -Russian stringtable update by Pohlman from Wiki15:53
CIA-22FreeOrion: kroddn * r3071 /trunk/FreeOrion/default/ger_stringtable.txt: Removed deleted strings16:13
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