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kmr83 | hi | 09:33 |
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kmr83 | need some help with orion, is this the right place to ask? | 09:34 |
_Lemon_ | I guess, if you find someone who is actually here | 09:36 |
kmr83 | well, you're here | 09:36 |
kmr83 | do u mind if i ask u? | 09:36 |
_Lemon_ | Protip: On IRC, just ask; people will either ignore because they're either not there or don't know | 09:37 |
_Lemon_ | If I haven't a clue I'll redirect you to the forums :p | 09:37 |
kmr83 | k | 09:38 |
kmr83 | well i need help with compiling/installing on debian sid | 09:38 |
_Lemon_ | Awesome, I'm on Debian Testing (Lenny?) | 09:39 |
_Lemon_ | It's really quite simple, I found | 09:39 |
_Lemon_ | Got the svn yet? | 09:39 |
* _Lemon_ realises he is jumping the gun | 09:39 | |
kmr83 | yes, u mean for freeorion? | 09:39 |
kmr83 | it comes with the gg library | 09:40 |
kmr83 | i just co'd the latest, yesteray in fact | 09:40 |
_Lemon_ | Yeah | 09:40 |
kmr83 | so, what i need are instructions basically | 09:41 |
kmr83 | i'm not much of a programmer | 09:41 |
_Lemon_ | So the next step is to make sure you have all the dependencies? Then "scons" in GG then "scons install" also in GG as root. | 09:41 |
kmr83 | can't put the pieces together w/o instructions | 09:41 |
kmr83 | yes | 09:41 |
kmr83 | that's what i did | 09:41 |
_Lemon_ | Did it work as expected? No errors? | 09:41 |
kmr83 | but i have a dependancy issue, smth about openal? | 09:42 |
_Lemon_ | kk, try (as root) apt-cache search openal | 09:42 |
kmr83 | i think i' missing a few things | 09:42 |
_Lemon_ | You're looking for: openal-dev | 09:42 |
kmr83 | is that all? | 09:42 |
kmr83 | k | 09:42 |
_Lemon_ | Should be | 09:42 |
kmr83 | i'll try that | 09:43 |
_Lemon_ | If it comes up, type: apt-get install openal-dev | 09:43 |
kmr83 | k, trying it..thanks | 09:43 |
_Lemon_ | Packages with -dev on the end are effectively the source code for the corresponding package... required for compiling | 09:43 |
kmr83 | i see, i didnt know that before | 09:44 |
kmr83 | nope, didn't come up | 09:44 |
kmr83 | no openal-dev | 09:44 |
_Lemon_ | What about libopenal-dev | 09:44 |
_Lemon_ | Anything of a very similar format? | 09:45 |
kmr83 | yes, got smthg | 09:45 |
kmr83 | i think its the one | 09:45 |
_Lemon_ | libalut-dev - OpenAL Utility Toolkit development files | 09:45 |
_Lemon_ | oh wait | 09:45 |
_Lemon_ | libopenal-dev - OpenAL is a portable library for 3D spatialized audio | 09:46 |
_Lemon_ | even | 09:46 |
_Lemon_ | That's in my repos | 09:46 |
kmr83 | so thats not ht one i need? | 09:46 |
kmr83 | i'm getting it now..libopenal-dev | 09:46 |
_Lemon_ | Yeah | 09:47 |
kmr83 | compiling is such a pain | 09:48 |
_Lemon_ | The prefix of "lib" means library, it will allow free orion to "know" about the compiled version of the library on your system (allowing all programs that use openAL to use the same openAL code etcetc) | 09:49 |
_Lemon_ | Or at least, that's what I know it as ;) | 09:49 |
kmr83 | yes, that's what i figured too, i've only done so much programming in C in college | 09:49 |
_Lemon_ | By college you mean uni? Or actual college... (I'm from the UK) | 09:50 |
kmr83 | don't know my way around this stuff | 09:50 |
kmr83 | uni | 09:50 |
_Lemon_ | They're all teh same, done one, done them all | 09:50 |
kmr83 | yeah | 09:50 |
kmr83 | i actually got an error when unpacking libopenal-dev..but i was wondering, u got the game running on ur comp? | 09:51 |
kmr83 | i mean on debian? | 09:51 |
_Lemon_ | Yeah, well, I haven't properly tried since I installed Debian (it worked fine with Kubuntu though) | 09:53 |
_Lemon_ | Well, if you're lucky enough to get a decent check out :p | 09:53 |
kmr83 | funny how it works suprisingly well on windows | 09:54 |
kmr83 | its ironic, an open src game that actually works better with windows than unix/linux | 09:55 |
_Lemon_ | That's only because they're boxed up release candidates though :p | 09:56 |
kmr83 | yeah... | 09:56 |
kmr83 | makes u wish u were back on windows | 09:56 |
_Lemon_ | yeeuck, not at all | 09:57 |
kmr83 | i'm gonna check out the source again, its all messed up by now | 09:57 |
_Lemon_ | This isn't even what I'd consider an alpha :p | 09:57 |
kmr83 | yeah, im thinking of getting some other games for my debian box | 09:57 |
_Lemon_ | Wesnoth can be quite cool, quite irritating at times too | 09:58 |
kmr83 | maybe some free versions of doom | 09:58 |
kmr83 | yeah, wesnoth looks cool | 09:58 |
kmr83 | i have it | 09:58 |
_Lemon_ | Bad save system though | 09:58 |
kmr83 | yeah, haven't really tried it yet | 09:58 |
kmr83 | i've never played a game like that before | 09:59 |
_Lemon_ | The randomness annoys me, but without it, it would probably be Advance Wars | 09:59 |
_Lemon_ | Which would actually be _very_ cool | 09:59 |
kmr83 | what would that be like, i'm not too familiar with turn based strategy | 10:00 |
kmr83 | i was sorta thinking of getting a free hexen or doom2 | 10:01 |
kmr83 | i like the old games | 10:02 |
_Lemon_ | Advance Wars was on the Game Boy... Advance if I remember | 10:04 |
_Lemon_ | It was a lot like Chess and Wesnoth combined (or at least the way I played) | 10:05 |
_Lemon_ | Nexuiz was a cool mp game | 10:05 |
kmr83 | really? well, i must have missed that one..honestly i'm not much of a gamer | 10:05 |
_Lemon_ | Neither am I | 10:05 |
kmr83 | nexuiz, yes, i've tried that one | 10:05 |
_Lemon_ | This was years ago when they released the first, I'm sure they've spammed the game title into obscurity by now... ha | 10:06 |
kmr83 | more than likely | 10:06 |
_Lemon_ | Best level and most fun on Nexuiz was the slow motion one hit kill snipers on this massive high jumpy level ahhh | 10:06 |
kmr83 | yeah, haha, that was the one with that weird gun | 10:07 |
kmr83 | the sad thing about nexuiz is its no doom, i kinda like the story driven types | 10:07 |
kmr83 | at least u know the names of the weapons | 10:07 |
kmr83 | and what ur mission is | 10:08 |
_Lemon_ | Yeah | 10:08 |
kmr83 | tried wine? | 10:08 |
_Lemon_ | My best multiplayer days involved AoE II and Counter-Strike | 10:08 |
_Lemon_ | Yeah, runs Half Life like a dream | 10:08 |
_Lemon_ | or did on Kubuntu | 10:08 |
_Lemon_ | You've inspired me to install it again, however :p | 10:09 |
kmr83 | yeah, i used to play those games on windows | 10:09 |
kmr83 | what half life? great game | 10:09 |
kmr83 | didn't finish half-life 2 though | 10:10 |
_Lemon_ | It was disappointing I thought | 10:10 |
_Lemon_ | The story was farily gripping but didn't quite extend to the same as the first game | 10:11 |
_Lemon_ | and was very easy (especially the last level/boss!) | 10:11 |
kmr83 | yeah, so i'm not alone thinking that it was a sad flop compared to the first | 10:11 |
_Lemon_ | yeah! | 10:11 |
_Lemon_ | The enemies were _all_ humans! | 10:11 |
kmr83 | i never even got that far, doom3 felt so much better going thru the levels | 10:12 |
kmr83 | i stopped plauying half-life 2 when i got dom3 | 10:12 |
_Lemon_ | Doom 3... about when I lost most interest in games and started sticking to playing endless multiplayer battles on older games | 10:13 |
_Lemon_ | Got about a third through that | 10:13 |
kmr83 | really? haha...yeah, i dunno why it appealed to me | 10:13 |
kmr83 | i think i was in the right frame of mind for it, i was in uni then | 10:14 |
kmr83 | the movie sucked tho | 10:15 |
_Lemon_ | The... can't hold a flashlight and a gun at the same time... | 10:16 |
_Lemon_ | haha, the movie yeah... | 10:16 |
kmr83 | haha..yeah, whats up with that? but i had some good times nonetheless | 10:16 |
kmr83 | i think i was breaking up with a girl when i was playing doom3 | 10:16 |
_Lemon_ | ahhh, gotta go kick some zombie-alien-depths-of-hell ass | 10:17 |
kmr83 | haha | 10:18 |
kmr83 | i could install that on debian, but i dont think i ca stomach another level | 10:19 |
kmr83 | i played it to death | 10:19 |
kmr83 | thats why i wanted to get freeorion | 10:20 |
_Lemon_ | My computer barely coped with it on XP and I seriously doubt Wine has surpassed Windows in speed yet... | 10:20 |
kmr83 | yeah, i probably wont try it | 10:20 |
kmr83 | its such an ordeal to compile ur own games | 10:20 |
_Lemon_ | What I'd like is a well defined C/C++ api for the AI... something that I could go off and write my own killer AI and pit it against others, I think that would be a mega cool aspect | 10:20 |
kmr83 | don't some opensrc games have that? | 10:21 |
_Lemon_ | Wine invovles no compiling... but staying at wonky graphics/random crashes ~ much worse ;) | 10:21 |
_Lemon_ | No idea, but free orion really appeals to me in terms of gameplay too | 10:21 |
kmr83 | i just downloaded wine actually, i was trying to get system shock2 to run on my debian sid | 10:22 |
kmr83 | yeah...but why code AI? its not exactly for the faint hearted i hear | 10:22 |
kmr83 | just leave it to the makers, they can fuss w/ the coding for AI | 10:23 |
_Lemon_ | That's how I've always taught myself to code though... jump head first into the deep end and touch the bottom :D | 10:24 |
_Lemon_ | ...and I'm still in indecision between the AI course at uni or Computer Vision, Grapics and something-else-I-can't-remember | 10:24 |
kmr83 | i've found that to be a god way to kill any nascent motivation to program | 10:24 |
kmr83 | if u start with smth difficult ur bound to kill ur own motivation | 10:25 |
kmr83 | AI course? AI's the way to go i think | 10:26 |
_Lemon_ | hmmm, possibly, I'm not sure if that's the case with me though | 10:26 |
_Lemon_ | I guess I'm quite stubborn... :p | 10:27 |
_Lemon_ | hmmm, I have 1 fps in Free Orion | 10:28 |
kmr83 | great, i got 0..haha | 10:28 |
_Lemon_ | lol | 10:28 |
_Lemon_ | Do you know if you've installed any graphics drivers? | 10:28 |
_Lemon_ | I remember Kubuntu having a 'restricted driver' thing | 10:28 |
kmr83 | yep, i did that first thing | 10:29 |
_Lemon_ | Where was it? | 10:29 |
kmr83 | right after i installed debian from the cd | 10:29 |
kmr83 | umm, i think it was nvidia for this comp, but i'm not sure | 10:29 |
kmr83 | what do u mean where? where the driver went? | 10:30 |
kmr83 | i think i installed fglrx or smth-or-other | 10:31 |
_Lemon_ | That's what I mean | 10:31 |
_Lemon_ | I don't remember anything like that | 10:31 |
_Lemon_ | I think I need to reinstall the whole machine though >:( | 10:31 |
kmr83 | hmm, wait, lemme think | 10:31 |
kmr83 | i have a guide, that i found by googling | 10:31 |
kmr83 | it helped me get the driver set up | 10:32 |
kmr83 | it was sometime ago | 10:32 |
kmr83 | why reinstall> | 10:33 |
_Lemon_ | I installed KDE preffering it over Gnome... now I have about 5 different versions for each aspect a program provides | 10:34 |
_Lemon_ | Like, calculators! | 10:34 |
kmr83 | haha....cool | 10:34 |
kmr83 | calculators | 10:34 |
_Lemon_ | It's just not really meant for KDE I'm guessing | 10:34 |
kmr83 | yeah, did u get the cd by downloading? | 10:34 |
kmr83 | jigdo, wget perhaps? | 10:35 |
_Lemon_ | I downloaded it a while back, upgraded from the stable | 10:35 |
kmr83 | i think there's 3 versions, debian with gnome, KDE and xfce | 10:35 |
kmr83 | yeah, i started with a stable too | 10:36 |
_Lemon_ | 5 fps in half life too :( | 10:56 |
_Lemon_ | Guess it's moi | 10:56 |
kmr83 | whats ur hardware like? (btw, i'm scons'ing freeorion now) | 10:57 |
GeofftheMedio | in FO, you can turn off galaxy gas background rendering in the latest versions (SVN, not v0.3.9) which might improve FPS | 10:57 |
GeofftheMedio | There's a switch in the options screen, under (I think) UI | 10:57 |
kmr83 | well, i'll try to remember that | 10:57 |
kmr83 | thanks | 10:57 |
_Lemon_ | No, it's deffo me, I'm used to max fps in half-life (60? 90?) Just checked my drivers too... no 3d accel enabled | 10:58 |
kmr83 | thats ur problem right there | 10:59 |
kmr83 | do u need help with that? | 11:00 |
_Lemon_ | Nah, it's ok for now, thanks | 11:02 |
kmr83 | dont mentio nit | 11:02 |
kmr83 | so why'd u switch from kubuntu to debian? | 11:03 |
_Lemon_ | I have a Debian server, and I originally intended to only use Kubuntu as a stepping stone into the Linux world | 11:06 |
_Lemon_ | Learnt a lot from it all | 11:06 |
_Lemon_ | and now I much prefer it over Windows | 11:06 |
_Lemon_ | Most of the games I play, if at all are either free(dom) or old enough for Wine to work | 11:07 |
kmr83 | yes, i hear the BSDs make good servers too | 11:07 |
kmr83 | yeah, i got scummvm to play some old games | 11:07 |
kmr83 | adventure games that is | 11:08 |
_Lemon_ | I dislike the BSD licence (absolutely no basis expect allowing for closed source) | 11:08 |
kmr83 | its a matter of ethics then? | 11:09 |
_Lemon_ | I suppose, yeah | 11:13 |
_Lemon_ | If something is open source, it should always be open source for the benefit of everyone | 11:13 |
_Lemon_ | but I don't know the +/- of it all | 11:14 |
_Lemon_ | Just an enraged "omfg how could they!" style thing | 11:15 |
kmr83 | never tried a BSD myself, but some ppl say that BSD is the way unix should be, and linux is unix for the pc | 11:16 |
kmr83 | i mean after all, linux was designed to exploit the 86 family | 11:16 |
kmr83 | i read that on wikipedia, apparently the torvalds wrote the kernel specifically for i386 | 11:18 |
kmr83 | *Torvalds | 11:18 |
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_Lemon_ | I'm sure it's moved on to specifically target others now... like 64 bit kernels | 11:20 |
_Lemon_ | oops, I think I may have just uninstalled kde... | 11:21 |
_Lemon_ | How do I manage these things?! | 11:21 |
kmr83 | but you're here chatting? | 11:22 |
kmr83 | how is that possible? | 11:22 |
kmr83 | was that on a diffrerent comp? | 11:22 |
_Lemon_ | Probably need a reboot for it take effect | 11:23 |
_Lemon_ | or it just removed a load of random packages | 11:24 |
kmr83 | most likely, you didn't kill the display manager in the process? | 11:24 |
_Lemon_ | I lost a caclulator :( | 11:24 |
_Lemon_ | No, can't find kdm in the list | 11:24 |
kmr83 | well, if u restart then its bye bye kde | 11:24 |
_Lemon_ | lemme find my install disks | 11:25 |
_Lemon_ | Quick clean... | 11:25 |
_Lemon_ | Well, fuck, cya for an hour or two :p | 11:25 |
_Lemon_ | I need to do this anyway | 11:26 |
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_Lemon_ | hmm, actually decided against reinstalling everything :p | 11:37 |
_Lemon_ | It just got rid of my network apps :s | 11:37 |
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kmr83 | so u got kde back? | 11:37 |
kmr83 | scons just came back with a compilation error | 11:38 |
kmr83 | owh fuck | 11:38 |
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kmr83 | i dont know if its the dependencies or the compiler im using | 11:39 |
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_Lemon_ | What is the error? | 11:41 |
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kmr83 | apparently something in the code is deprecated? | 11:43 |
kmr83 | and a bunch of stuff, like undefined constants | 11:43 |
_Lemon_ | PI ? | 11:43 |
kmr83 | wweird | 11:43 |
kmr83 | yes! | 11:43 |
_Lemon_ | I had that too | 11:43 |
_Lemon_ | and a few others | 11:43 |
_Lemon_ | Could be a Debian thing? | 11:44 |
kmr83 | whats that about? debian doesnt know the value of pi? | 11:44 |
kmr83 | i dunno, i don't think so | 11:44 |
_Lemon_ | No, it's some library source that's not quite right methinks | 11:44 |
kmr83 | is it the compiler? | 11:44 |
_Lemon_ | What was the file called? I'll tell you the fix... | 11:44 |
kmr83 | maybe | 11:44 |
kmr83 | did u get it fixed when u had the problem? | 11:45 |
_Lemon_ | Yeah, what was the file with the error? | 11:45 |
_Lemon_ | It's just involved copying some text onto it ~ dirty hack style! | 11:45 |
kmr83 | wait, gotta sort this stuff out | 11:45 |
kmr83 | UI/TechTreeWnd.cpp | 11:46 |
kmr83 | thats where it stopped | 11:47 |
kmr83 | any ideas? | 11:47 |
_Lemon_ | http://pastebin.com/m4afe3c91 | 11:48 |
_Lemon_ | In UI/TechTreeWnd.h add that above the class Tech { definition | 11:48 |
_Lemon_ | The line: "class Tech;" even | 11:48 |
kmr83 | k, will try that | 11:48 |
_Lemon_ | It will then compile.. | 11:48 |
kmr83 | right, thanks, hope this works | 11:49 |
kmr83 | u mean the class `TechTreeWnd' don't you? | 11:55 |
kmr83 | is it a window class? | 11:56 |
_Lemon_ | No, I mean above the line "class Tech;" | 11:57 |
_Lemon_ | I would assume it's for the tech window but then again, it is just a name :p | 11:57 |
kmr83 | wait, i don't suppose u have a diff file handy? | 11:57 |
kmr83 | always looking for the easy way out..sorry | 11:58 |
kmr83 | no diff? | 11:58 |
_Lemon_ | No, sorry | 11:59 |
_Lemon_ | It really is just a copy/paste job | 11:59 |
_Lemon_ | http://pastebin.com/m5bd25647 | 12:00 |
_Lemon_ | Replace UI/TechTreeWnd.h with taht file :p | 12:00 |
_Lemon_ | or... you'll see what I mean | 12:00 |
_Lemon_ | I need to kill the X server to install these drivers, brb | 12:02 |
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kmr83 | oh well, i still cant compile the damn thing | 12:38 |
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kmr83 | welcome back. so the damn thing still wont compile..beats the hell outta me | 12:46 |
kmr83 | as to whats wrong | 12:46 |
_Lemon_ | What's the problem now? | 12:49 |
_Lemon_ | I'm still having issues installing too NVIDIA drivers too :( | 12:49 |
kmr83 | this time its a different file: `ResearchWnd.cpp' | 12:50 |
kmr83 | is complaining about ` expected unqualified-id before numeric constant' | 12:51 |
kmr83 | i looked in the file and apparently PI is defined in a namespace | 12:52 |
kmr83 | i don't think there could be a conflict with the header definition for PI that you gave | 12:52 |
_Lemon_ | hmmm no | 12:52 |
_Lemon_ | I mean yeah | 12:53 |
kmr83 | did u have the same problem? | 12:53 |
_Lemon_ | Not with the research | 12:53 |
_Lemon_ | What svn revision is this? | 12:53 |
kmr83 | its weird, maybe i should check out a new one | 12:53 |
_Lemon_ | 2496 seems to compile fine | 12:53 |
_Lemon_ | Yeah, it's not hugely strict about what gets committed I've found... | 12:54 |
kmr83 | yeah, maybe i need fresh sources, i did an scons before i ran into the first problem | 12:55 |
kmr83 | so i just checked, this is 2496 | 12:57 |
kmr83 | weird | 12:57 |
kmr83 | dependency issues? could it be | 12:58 |
kmr83 | whats ur options.cache like? mine's currently empty | 12:58 |
_Lemon_ | I doubt it | 12:59 |
_Lemon_ | I'll check | 12:59 |
_Lemon_ | err, where is this options.cache? | 12:59 |
_Lemon_ | What line is ResearchWnd pointing to? | 12:59 |
kmr83 | it should be in FreeOrion | 12:59 |
kmr83 | brb | 12:59 |
kmr83 | 22 i believe | 13:00 |
kmr83 | line 22 | 13:00 |
kmr83 | this is the line ` expected unqualified-id before numeric constant' | 13:01 |
kmr83 | nope sorry | 13:01 |
kmr83 | not that | 13:01 |
kmr83 | ``const double PI = 3.141594;'' | 13:02 |
kmr83 | thats line 22 | 13:02 |
kmr83 | its defined in a namespace | 13:02 |
kmr83 | sorry, you're probly busy with that driver thing | 13:02 |
_Lemon_ | My options cache is empty too | 13:08 |
_Lemon_ | ahhh, I commented my line 22 out | 13:08 |
kmr83 | so what could it be...its not complaining about any missing dependencies | 13:08 |
_Lemon_ | You should too I guess | 13:08 |
kmr83 | u did? | 13:08 |
_Lemon_ | Yeah | 13:08 |
kmr83 | k, | 13:08 |
_Lemon_ | Just wack a // at the start | 13:08 |
kmr83 | when u commented line 22 out, did u get any more errors from the same file? | 13:14 |
_Lemon_ | I don't think so, do you? | 13:14 |
kmr83 | i got more errors from the same file, this time at different lines | 13:15 |
_Lemon_ | Saying what? | 13:15 |
kmr83 | anything else u forgot to mention? | 13:15 |
kmr83 | wait. lemme try this again, | 13:15 |
_Lemon_ | lol | 13:15 |
_Lemon_ | Not that I know of :p | 13:15 |
kmr83 | seems to be working... | 13:27 |
kmr83 | earlier it was my mistake, i messed up the file when i commented out line 22 | 13:28 |
kmr83 | smthg unbelievable just happened | 13:29 |
kmr83 | it compiled! | 13:29 |
kmr83 | haha | 13:29 |
kmr83 | so do i `scons install' now? | 13:29 |
_Lemon_ | Yeah | 13:32 |
_Lemon_ | Then freeorion | 13:32 |
kmr83 | this is so unreal, cant believe we're almost done, well are we? | 13:33 |
kmr83 | ahh! haha | 13:36 |
kmr83 | knew it was too good to be true | 13:36 |
kmr83 | segmentation fault just when u were getting excited | 13:36 |
kmr83 | to start a new game | 13:37 |
kmr83 | i clicked on single player, and i got this optons dialog | 13:38 |
kmr83 | i went with the defaults, got as far as the ``Generating Univers, AI'' screen | 13:38 |
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kmr83 | the snag seems to be a segmentation fault | 13:39 |
kmr83 | at least thats what it says | 13:39 |
kmr83 | thanks for the exceptional help _Lemon_ | 13:41 |
kmr83 | alas, no freeoron for moi | 13:42 |
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kroddnoMobil | ? | 13:51 |
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_Lemon_ | and goodbye... :o | 13:56 |
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kmr83 | hey _Lemon_ | 14:33 |
_Lemon_ | yo yo | 14:33 |
_Lemon_ | I got the nvidia drivers working just gotta restart X once more :p | 14:34 |
_Lemon_ | brb | 14:34 |
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kmr83 | how's the drivers? | 14:35 |
_Lemon_ | Awesome | 14:36 |
_Lemon_ | > 1 FPS too :D | 14:36 |
_Lemon_ | Although it's messed with my fonts | 14:36 |
kmr83 | still 1 fps? | 14:36 |
kmr83 | i think u mranur resolution just got better | 14:37 |
kmr83 | mean* | 14:37 |
kmr83 | that happened to me when i got the driver working | 14:38 |
kmr83 | the fonts got smaller | 14:38 |
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_Lemon_ | (> meant greater than) | 14:40 |
_Lemon_ | So > 1 fps :p | 14:40 |
kmr83 | yeah, i found that out later on my own | 14:42 |
kmr83 | didn't see the greater than sign at first | 14:42 |
kmr83 | FO's still a pain in the butt about actually working though | 14:46 |
_Lemon_ | Yeah, hence pre-alpha | 14:52 |
_Lemon_ | I'd put it as anyway :p | 14:52 |
_Lemon_ | I'm curious as to what galaxy age actually means... it's not entirely intuitive | 14:53 |
kmr83 | haha..yeah, but maybe time zero is at the big bang | 14:54 |
kmr83 | at any rate, i can't play it at all, i get a segmentation fault just when the games about to egin | 14:54 |
_Lemon_ | hmm, you should probably report that... mine plays fine | 14:56 |
kmr83 | really? on a debian unstable? lenny right? | 14:57 |
_Lemon_ | testing | 14:58 |
_Lemon_ | I thought Sid was unstable | 14:58 |
kmr83 | right, sorry | 14:59 |
kmr83 | Sid's the one i got | 14:59 |
kmr83 | unstable | 14:59 |
kmr83 | it really is that | 14:59 |
kmr83 | i think if u can make it work on lenny i should be able to run it on sid | 15:00 |
_Lemon_ | Yeah | 15:00 |
kmr83 | of course, i *could* go through the whole compile process again | 15:01 |
kmr83 | ahh! not that again!!! | 15:01 |
kmr83 | but it would be worth a try on some other day | 15:02 |
kmr83 | means checking out the sources again...it took me nearly a full day to get those sources | 15:03 |
_Lemon_ | oh, once you have it all set it up can do: svn update | 15:09 |
_Lemon_ | That updates the source to the latest | 15:09 |
_Lemon_ | Then, if GG has changed scons then scons install in the GG dir | 15:09 |
kmr83 | do u think updating will fix it? | 15:10 |
_Lemon_ | Then scons then scons install in FreeOrion dir.... really simple once you've done it once | 15:10 |
_Lemon_ | I doubt it, if you've *just* pulled the latest... | 15:10 |
kmr83 | i know | 15:10 |
kmr83 | it sucsk | 15:10 |
kmr83 | mommy i wanna play | 15:10 |
kmr83 | like the other kids | 15:11 |
kmr83 | ahh! i'm tempted to just download the windoze version and playin it on my win partition | 15:11 |
_Lemon_ | It has absolutely no ai | 15:15 |
_Lemon_ | So you won't have much fun like those Linux kids :p | 15:15 |
kmr83 | u mean FO? | 15:15 |
_Lemon_ | "fun" | 15:15 |
_Lemon_ | yeah | 15:15 |
kmr83 | how come? thats weird | 15:15 |
kmr83 | did they deliberately forget to include it? | 15:16 |
kmr83 | haha | 15:16 |
_Lemon_ | It wasn't written when they released it | 15:17 |
kmr83 | this game better be something, i can't believe how hard it is to get a working copy of it | 15:19 |
kmr83 | its not easy on any platform | 15:19 |
kmr83 | nobody has it easy | 15:20 |
kmr83 | well i'm gonna watch tv now, i need to be entertained | 15:23 |
kmr83 | but thanks for all the help, really appreciate it _Lemon_ | 15:24 |
_Lemon_ | No problem! | 15:24 |
_Lemon_ | Turns out I had nothing to do today either :p | 15:24 |
kmr83 | yeah, hope there's a good movei on or smthg | 15:24 |
kmr83 | alrigt, take care dude | 15:25 |
kmr83 | bye | 15:25 |
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