Sunday, 2016-01-10

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CarlFKtumbleweed: help... we need things packaged for wily.. maybe...00:06
tumbleweedI can help ... maybe :P00:10
tumbleweedalso o/ from JFK - I'm on my way back from CPT00:10
CarlFKnever mind, turns out I did my thing...00:10
tumbleweedyour thing?00:11
CarlFKhit tings with a hammer until lanchpad stops rejecting them00:11
tumbleweed:P00:11
CarlFKonce we figure out what we are using, I would _really_ like you to do them right00:11
CarlFKbut for now just trying to get micolous stuff up00:11
tumbleweedpragmatic :)00:12
micolousIt's ok, there are wily packages00:13
micoloustim had me install xilinx sdk last night00:13
tumbleweedewwww00:14
micolousI washed my hands after00:15
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CarlFK         sudo apt-add-repository --yes ppa:timvideos/fpga-support00:53
CarlFKsudo apt-get --assume-yes install vizzini-dkms00:53
micolousthat's already there00:53
CarlFKhmm00:53
CarlFKun/plug the atlys00:53
micolous$ sudo modprobe -v vizzini00:53
micolous[sudo] password for michael:00:53
micolousinsmod /lib/modules/4.2.0-16-generic/updates/dkms/vizzini.ko00:53
micolousone sec00:53
CarlFKalso, you need both usb .. one for some things, the other for.. other things!00:54
micolousorly00:56
micolousok00:58
micolousbetter00:58
micolousNow mplayer shows what i see on the hdmi out00:58
micolousoutput0: [email protected] from input100:59
micolousI have the xbox attached to HDMI input00:59
micolousit's pushing 720p6000:59
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CarlFKwoo!01:00
CarlFKyou prolly want to get comfy with the hdmi2usb> prompt01:00
micolousut the only output is a black frame with a small white line in the bottom right conner01:00
micolouscorner01:00
CarlFKflterm --port /dev/ttyVIZ0 --speed 11520001:00
CarlFKoutput on outputo?01:01
CarlFKer...01:01
micolousHDMI2USB>status01:02
micolousinput0:  0x001:02
micolousinput1:  0x001:02
micolousoutput0: [email protected] from input101:02
micolousoutput1: [email protected] from input101:02
micolousencoder: 1280x720 @ 30fps (103Mbps) from input1 (q: 85)01:02
micolousddr: read: 2202Mbps  write:    0Mbps  all: 2202Mbps01:02
micolouspattern works fine01:02
micoloussomething wrong with my input, I think01:02
CarlFKun/plug it01:02
CarlFKthe plug n play is less than perfect with the atlys01:03
CarlFKespecially as it is getting setup01:03
micolousrestarted xbox, now it's happy01:03
CarlFKwoo01:03
micoloushttps://i.imgur.com/tJrtVBo.png01:06
CarlFKwoo woo!01:11
CarlFKhere is my gst "just save to disk" https://github.com/xfxf/video-scripts/blob/master/carl/hu2file.sh01:12
tpbTitle: video-scripts/hu2file.sh at master · xfxf/video-scripts · GitHub (at github.com)01:12
xfxfmithro: LCA own 7 active HDMI > VGA converters.  i've just tested the output of HDMI2USB with one of them into a monitor with VGA and it appears to work02:37
xfxfmithro: i suspect will need VGA > HDMI for each room for the people who have VGA only.  any idea of converters/adapters to use which are HDMI2USB friendly outside of expensive scan converters?02:38
xfxfwell, sorry, i don't suspect, i've been asked to ensure we're covering for that02:38
CarlFKxfxf: 720p -> vga, right ?02:38
xfxfyes, 720p02:39
CarlFKI think mithro is planning on the vga daughter board being ready, so I would wait a bit on an answer before you buy anything02:39
xfxfokay, just again avoiding getting to the hackfest and pissing off LCA by having to emergency buy expensive things which are a fraction of the cost if bought in advance02:40
xfxfdefinitely want to lean towards perhaps purchasing a little too much over last minute panics :)02:41
CarlFKI remeber him saying he would cover the costs if he didn't deliver.  but I was only 1/2 paying attention to what it was he said he would deliver02:41
xfxf(AV gear from local retailers in AU is expensive++++++)02:41
xfxfi remember him saying that too, i don't think that's fair on him at all02:42
tumbleweedxfxf: I haven't yet found a VGA->HDMI convertor that offers a 720p mode02:46
CarlFKtumbleweed: you were looking for < $100 things right ?02:47
tumbleweedyeah02:47
CarlFKI am sure I saw one for $35002:48
CarlFKj02:48
CarlFKk02:48
tumbleweedthere are presumably fancy ones that work02:48
CarlFKI took a 1/2 day fpga class and vga signal processing was a good bit of it.02:48
CarlFKseems it is pretty easy to word word word and great success.02:49
tumbleweed:P02:49
mithroxfxf: If you need to support VGA in, you'll need  VGA->HDMI adapters02:50
mithroThe HDMI->VGA side was the part which I'm confident about02:51
CarlFKoh oh ;)02:54
xfxfokay, i haven't a clue what's HDMI2USB compatible, any ideas?02:54
mithroNot really02:56
mithroxfxf: start with the cheapest thing you can find and work upwards?02:58
mithroxfxf: I have roughly 20 little USB screens here - are they useful for anything?02:59
xfxfi don't think i have time to do that anymore - we're 2 weeks out from the hackfest03:00
mithroxfxf: the cheapest ones are going to be easier to find right?03:02
xfxfcheapest in my eyes is buying something from overseas03:02
xfxfconverters aren't cheap locally03:03
xfxf2 weeks isn't sufficient to order something, then order something else03:03
CarlFKxfxf: how many do you need?  (5 rooms, right?)03:03
mithroYes03:03
xfxf5 rooms yes03:03
mithroI meant locally03:03
xfxfand i don't have infinite funds to buy a bunch of random adapters03:03
mithroWhat does jaycar and DSE have available?03:04
mithroAnd how do they compare to your high end scalers03:04
mithroCan you when get your expensive scalers in time?03:06
xfxfjaycar/dse converters are terrible and overpriced, they're not remotely as close (none of them let you control input/output resolution - that said we don't need that), and perhaps03:19
xfxfi've got a few cheaper adapters here, i'll try to test them03:20
xfxfthe jaycar/dse stuff is all targeted towards consumers trying to hook things to their HDTV's, not quite what we're doing03:22
mithroYes, but are there many other options? If VGA scan converters are like $500 Aud03:22
mithroBeing targeted at TV's is good as they do 720p03:23
xfxfless so quality, more being dubious that they'll work at all03:23
xfxfi bought them for my blackmagic gear, didn't work03:24
xfxfbut will test03:24
CarlFKI bought a $45 one, wow was it crap03:24
xfxfthe 'expensive' scalers i like because you can lock down the input/output resolutions03:25
xfxfso they tend to work with everything03:25
mithroYes, but with the blackmagic gear we can't figure out why it's crap03:25
xfxfbut at this stage i'll take whatever works03:25
mithroWith the HDMI2USB we can see why03:25
xfxfsure, well, i'm confident i can buy 5x active VGA > HDMI adapters, but i've got zero way to know what they actually do03:26
xfxfif you think we can get most things working then i'm happy to do that03:26
xfxfhttp://www.umart.com.au/umart1/pro/Products-details.phtml?id=10&id2=291&bid=2&sid=9008203:27
tpbTitle: PCT-VHC11, VGA to HDMI Converter , with RCA cable, (at www.umart.com.au)03:27
xfxfi have one of these03:27
xfxfwill test it now03:27
mithroIf jaycar is $100 per room and good converters are $150 - then go with the good03:27
xfxfthe good are $400-$500 second hand03:27
xfxfand almost $1k new03:28
mithroIf jaycar are $50 and good are $500 - then we probably need to make do with jaycar03:28
mithroCan you hire them?03:29
mithroTime verse money trade off03:29
xfxfyeah but they'll be almost as much to rent for a week03:35
xfxfthis is why i bought mine03:35
CarlFKhttp://www.extron.com/product/product.aspx?id=8504  $350 - what we want, right ?03:35
tpbTitle: Extron RGB To DVI/HDMI Scalers - RGB-HDMI 300 A (at www.extron.com)03:35
mithroLess features is better03:36
CarlFKhere is 1, http://www.ebay.com/itm/Extron-RGB-HDMI-300-A-/221986876039?hash=item33af72ea87:g:c0oAAOSwT~9WjAxy  $80 +$10 shipping.03:39
tpbTitle: Extron RGB HDMI 300 A | eBay (at www.ebay.com)03:39
mithroCarlFK: seems to cheap - but cheap enough that it might be worth the risk03:40
CarlFKits $350 new03:40
CarlFKExtron is the company that xfxf recomends for scalers03:41
CarlFKI kinda looked into this about 6 months ago03:41
CarlFKI should grab that for me...03:43
mithroCarlFK: probably03:43
xfxfthat's a model i'm not familiar with03:43
mithroExtron is a horrible company, and their gear is overpriced expensive crap03:43
mithro*but*03:43
mithrothat applies to pretty much everyone in the A/V space03:44
CarlFKlol03:44
xfxfi assure you it's better than the shit AU retailers sell03:44
mithroand they are better then most in the space03:44
xfxfyeah, well, how long until hdmi2usb does scaling, huh? ;)03:44
mithroxfxf: actually - that is something I could get florent to work on during the hackfest :P03:44
xfxfalso, mithro, verifying something i spoke to you about a few weeks ago03:44
xfxfcosta hall, the keynote venue, will have two lecturns.  it's a VGA projector/system03:44
xfxfvenue is quoting a VGA switcher03:45
xfxfi think we should forgoe that, and put a HDMI2USB in w/ my expensive HDMI > VGA scaler03:45
xfxfand use that for capture + switching03:45
xfxfseems sane?03:45
xfxfonly fun thing there is the podiums may not be near each other03:46
xfxfand i know you wanted short lengths between laptop + hdmi2usb03:46
CarlFKxfxf: given the quantity of problems, I would not take on more03:46
xfxfCarlFK: it's not so much that, it's more having a VGA switcher in the mix complicates things for us03:46
mithroxfxf: Can you do a quick paper diagram (or Google Drawing) of what you are saying we should do?03:47
xfxfnot right now, i'm not meant to be working on any of this currently sorry03:47
xfxfi'm neglecting other responsibilities03:47
CarlFKxfxf: opsis board next to each podium, hdmi->vga -> whatever the venue does03:48
xfxfthe purpose of the opsis board also to do vision switching for what everybody sees on the main screen03:48
xfxfthis cannot be done with 2x opsis's currently03:48
CarlFKyou are adding reqirements03:49
CarlFKuse the opsis to record, let the venue do the switching.  hopefully they can handle that part ok.03:52
xfxfit means we can't use the hdmi2usb like in all other rooms03:54
xfxfwe have to place it after the vision switcher, which means converting the signal03:55
xfxfthat said i hear your point03:55
xfxflets not complicate this anymore03:55
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tvCommitBot[HDMI2USB-jahanzeb-firmware] mithro pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vubLX03:59
tvCommitBotHDMI2USB-jahanzeb-firmware/master b3d216d Tim 'mithro' Ansell: Adding updated README information.03:59
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tvCommitBot[HDMI2USB-jahanzeb-firmware] mithro pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vubte04:02
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tvCommitBotHDMI2USB-jahanzeb-firmware/master f43b2aa Tim 'mithro' Ansell: More!04:03
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xfxfmithro: i assume you're aware of pink/red text that goes through output0/output1 on the hdmi2usb looking really pixely?04:20
mithroxfxf: no04:20
xfxfmithro: i've been using my windows computer the last few days fed through a hdmi2usb to ensure it's stable04:20
mithroxfxf: example?04:20
xfxfhmm what irc client are you using?04:23
xfxfi can't find how to do ansi colors04:23
xfxfneed to something red04:24
xfxfhttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/cAavYYW4/20160110_152251.jpg04:27
mithroIs this on the capture or on the output?04:27
xfxfoutput04:28
mithroxfxf: can you get a high quality photo that doesn't have the jpeg artifacts in it?04:29
xfxfthe jpeg artifacts you're seeing are what i am seeing on screen04:29
xfxfit's barely readable04:29
xfxfoh wait04:29
xfxfi see what you mean04:29
mithroxfxf: I need to be able to see the individual pixels around the text04:29
xfxfi'll upload the jpeg as off my phone04:29
xfxfhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0B92_rpmFTXR5MUthbDMyeDFjR3M/view04:42
tpbTitle: Meet Google Drive – One place for all your files (at drive.google.com)04:42
xfxfis that any better?04:42
CarlFKYou need permission04:43
xfxfi shared it with tim ;)04:44
xfxfbut i'll make it public04:44
xfxftry now04:44
xfxfalso default zoom looks compressed as hell04:44
xfxfif you zoom in to max it you can make out each pixel04:44
CarlFKxfxf: can you skip the hdmi2usb but also force the source to 720p ?04:47
xfxfthe source is 720p04:47
xfxfit's my computer04:47
xfxfand it looks perfectly at the same res hooked directly in04:47
CarlFKhuh04:47
xfxfalso the monitor i'm using has a nice 1:1 mode where it won't scale up the resolution04:47
xfxfthat photo is taken with 1:104:47
xfxfso it's absolutely representative of hdmi2usb output04:48
xfxfthe screen isn't altering it04:48
CarlFKcuz that looks like software04:48
mithroxfxf: can you take a photo of the same thing hooked up without the HDMI2USB04:48
CarlFKlike the video driver or something in that area scaling it04:48
xfxfit's not04:49
xfxfi'm looking at it right now plugged in04:49
xfxfi'll take a photo when my phone is above 5% battery04:49
CarlFKmithro: the encoder at quality 100 should show the same thing, right ?04:49
mithroCarlFK: the encoder isn't involved if you are doing HDMI in -> HDMI out04:50
xfxfmithro: i didn't think it was but to me, the screen looks 100% like it's being jpeg encoded04:50
xfxfi see jpeg like artifacts sometimes04:51
CarlFKmithro: I am thinking it might be interesting to see if the hdmi2usb is getting that same thing04:51
mithroxfxf: It is probably the YUV encoding - but I want to compare with and without pictures first04:51
xfxfah, colorspace would make sense04:53
xfxfi'll get you a picture as soon as my phone has charged enough to play ball04:53
xfxfi just checked the recorded video - it looks similar, but worse04:53
xfxfi'll see if i can save out a frame04:53
xfxfin positive news, voctomix has been recording perfectly at 30fps with hdmi2usb for 22 hours straight now04:53
xfxfvoctocore did something stupid last night though and i no longer can open the UI04:54
xfxfbut it's still recording perfectly, with av sync04:54
xfxfhttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Ysvg35MJ/Screenshot%20from%202016-01-10%2015-51-35.png04:56
xfxfmithro: this is the output to the same screen direct from the pc, set at 720p, without the hdmi2usb in the chain: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B92_rpmFTXR5OEk3cWllaHgwQjQ/view05:01
tpbTitle: 20160110_155236.jpg - Google Drive (at drive.google.com)05:01
mithroxfxf: okay05:24
mithroplease open an issue about it05:24
CarlFKmithro: are you feeding hdmi2usb into vocto ?05:46
mithroNot at the moment05:46
CarlFKer, sorry.. wrong nic05:46
CarlFKmicolous: are you feeding hdmi2usb into vocto ?05:46
micolousuh not yet05:46
micolousgot distracted05:46
CarlFKlol05:47
CarlFKI would really like the source to also display in a window05:47
micolousI woulid like it to have the serial interface on standard ttyACM05:49
micolousSomething on the board already implements it05:50
micolousThen we don't need to mess with out-of-tree kernel modules05:50
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mithromicolous: that works on the Opsis boards05:56
mithromicolous: but hasn't been backported to the Atlys05:57
micolousok06:09
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mithroshenki has also done some work to get a better driver upstream but we need to keep poking him otherwise he forgets to continue moving that forward06:10
mithromicolous: https://github.com/timvideos/HDMI2USB-misoc-firmware/issues/14606:14
tpbTitle: vizzini driver (Atlys) for Exar XR21V1414 USB UART is not reliable · Issue #146 · timvideos/HDMI2USB-misoc-firmware · GitHub (at github.com)06:14
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micolousright06:26
micolousI tweaked ryan's script for hdmi2usb a bit because the framerate and port were different06:26
micolousThere's about half a second of latency on the video input06:26
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travis-ci[mithro/HDMI2USB-misoc-firmware/fx2-refactor#60] (3f81229): The build has errored. (https://travis-ci.org/mithro/HDMI2USB-misoc-firmware/builds/101368792)06:31
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travis-ci[mithro/HDMI2USB-misoc-firmware/fx2-refactor#61] (66cc3e9): The build has errored. (https://travis-ci.org/mithro/HDMI2USB-misoc-firmware/builds/101368925)06:33
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seaLnemithro: is it ok to have different clock things on each of the P/N pair?06:49
mithroseaLne: If they are not differential clocks, then yes06:49
seaLneok, thanks06:50
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tvCommitBot[HDMI2USB-jahanzeb-firmware] mithro closed pull request #127: Adding tool for pretty formatting the code. (master...format) http://git.io/vubHn07:07
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seaLnemithro: how is the pinout now? https://github.com/sealne/HDMI2USB-TOFE-VGA/raw/master/board/TOFE-VGA.pdf07:15
mithroseaLne: a couple of small things - which I should actually add to the template07:16
mithroseaLne: You should put the WP on the EEPROM on a jumper07:16
seaLneok07:16
mithroseaLne: what is TCA9617A ?07:17
mithroseaLne: some type of power supply switch?07:17
seaLnelevel convertor07:18
mithroseaLne: ahh07:18
mithroFor the I2C07:18
seaLneyeah07:18
mithroseaLne: you don't need the ADP3303-3V3 I think? The TOFE interface provides 12V and 3V3?07:18
seaLnei'd wondered about that wasn't sure about noise07:18
mithroseaLne: just put some decoupling caps on it07:19
seaLneok07:19
mithroseaLne: you need 2 x 1V8 converters?07:20
seaLneyeah, datasheet and example layout say to07:20
mithroseaLne: The spare IO pins I'd recommend adding LEDs to them (or atleast a header)07:20
mithroseaLne: you definitely want some power LEDs too07:21
mithroseaLne: otherwise the TOFE connections look fine07:21
seaLnecool, led for each power? or just one for showenig tofe power?07:21
mithroseaLne: we don't have any power LEDs on the current boards and it's a pain07:22
mithroseaLne: One for 12V, one for 3V3 from TOFE07:22
mithroseaLne: I'd also recommend one on the output of your power supplies too07:22
seaLneok07:22
mithroseaLne: If they are too expensive you just don't populate them - but they arn't :)07:22
seaLnek07:23
mithroseaLne: I'd also recommend adding headers on both sides of your I2C VGA bus07:23
mithro(You want a header with VCC, SCL, SDA, GND)07:23
seaLneok07:24
mithroI'd also recommend adding headers on the other I2C busses too07:24
xfxfTim: github is spamming me with hundreds of notifications about your actions on hdmi2usb things, are you seeing that?07:29
micolousxfxf: disable watch07:29
xfxfemails specifically07:29
seaLneyeah i seem to have 400 since yesterday07:29
seaLne50007:30
xfxfI intentionally keep watch on as it gives me good awareness of what's happening with the project07:30
micolous<xfxf> doctor, it hurts when I bend down07:30
micolous<doctor> then don't bend down07:30
seaLnethey do all seem to be seperate things though07:30
seaLnemithro: should DIFF_CLK_X be broken out or is that just somethig generically for TOFE?07:32
mithroyeah, sorry about the spam - I've been doing a whole bunch of cleanup07:36
CarlFKanyone up on screenrc files ?07:39
CarlFKhttps://github.com/xfxf/video-scripts/blob/master/ccc/screenrc07:40
tpbTitle: video-scripts/screenrc at master · xfxf/video-scripts · GitHub (at github.com)07:40
CarlFKthat was passed to me via an either pad.  i don't know how to use it.07:40
xfxfwe're not using a bunch of while loops in a screen session to do this07:50
xfxfthat's ridiculously flaky and prone to shit stopping and nobody noticing07:51
xfxfoh hmm, is that what ccc used?07:51
xfxfi believe strongly in making errors visible to the operator07:51
xfxfso they've got a chance to call us and say "hey, should this be happening?"07:51
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mithroseaLne: This is for when something isn't working, we have some pins that you can use to debug the problem :)07:53
seaLnemithro: this is what i'm thinking of doing for those pins with 0.1" header that can be jumpered. does it seem reasonable? https://imgur.com/C1CRuDe08:46
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mithroLGTM08:47
seaLnediff_clk_x wouldn't be jumpered08:47
CarlFKxfxf: I wasn't thrilled about it either, but right now I am not sure what is good08:48
mithroseaLne: that LGTM was to you :)08:49
CarlFKI've been trying to keep things similar so that we don't somehow add a "feature"08:49
CarlFK3am, im off to bed.. see ya all08:50
seaLnemithro: i guessed, cool08:50
xfxfCarlFK: right now i care about getting a repeatable working loop and doing things like unplugging the network, devices, etc, seeing how things recover, and fixing those.  we can worry about the script loop + monitoring later09:04
xfxfthe .ts files being saved out, have you pushed those through veyepar with the cut points?09:04
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xfxfmithro: I think there's a hdmi2usb issue with my laptops10:18
xfxfmithro: is it possible some usb chipsets are crappier?10:18
xfxfmithro: basically, on a desktop i5, i can capture from the hdmi2usb into voctomix no problems, no slowdowns.10:18
mithroxfxf: can you please explain what you think the problem is?10:19
xfxfif i do it on 2 different laptops, the hdmi2usb input eventually slows down to a really slow speed + i have to restart the hdmi2usb capture script10:19
mithroxfxf: yes, some USB chipsets are crappier then others - but that isn't that common10:19
xfxfi just split it up so the core/gui was running on the desktop, and the hdmi2usb input was on the problematic laptop10:19
xfxfand the problem came back10:19
xfxfwhich is 100% going to bite us in the butt at lca10:19
xfxfthe hdmi2usb works perfectly on the desktop10:19
xfxfif i can do anything to debug let me know10:19
xfxfthe two laptops are a i5 lenovo, and a asus i710:20
mithroxfxf: Have you tried the exact same loop with the Logitech USB webcam?10:20
xfxfboth are using intel usb as far as i'm aware10:20
mithroinplace of the HDMI2USB10:20
xfxfno, my webcam isn't working10:20
xfxfi might pull it apart and see why10:20
xfxfi'm fairly confident the issue CarlFK is seeing is exactly what i'm seeing10:21
mithroBasically, if you get the problem with the Logitech USB webcam, it isn't the HDMI2USB fault10:21
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mithroxfxf: it's somewhere else in the stack10:21
xfxfwould it be useful if i modified the gst-launch line we're using for voctomix and make it just save it out a local file10:21
mithroxfxf: if it goes away, then we need to compare it10:21
xfxfand see if it happens independent of voctomix?10:21
mithroxfxf: no10:21
mithrowhat is the problem you are seeing?10:22
xfxfsure, let me try and get this webcam working10:22
xfxfafter 1.5-2 hours the video slows down to 0.5fps10:22
xfxfthe only thing that fixes it is restarting the hdmi2usb gst-launch line10:22
xfxf(there's ANOTHER issue where the voctomix UI slows down - but that's seperate and i've isolated that.  this 100% isn't that)10:22
xfxftldr; hdmi2usb works perfectly on my desktop i5.  does not with *everything* else the same on 2x laptops10:23
mithroxfxf: you can test capturing locally if you want10:27
xfxfmithro: if it occurs there, is that useful data to you?10:27
mithroxfxf: sure10:31
xfxfmithro: created ticket for wierd red issue11:05
seaLnemithro: i wasn't too sure what filtering to have on the 3v3. i've added i2c headers and power leds now https://github.com/sealne/HDMI2USB-TOFE-VGA/blob/master/board/TOFE-VGA.pdf11:55
tpbTitle: HDMI2USB-TOFE-VGA/TOFE-VGA.pdf at master · sealne/HDMI2USB-TOFE-VGA · GitHub (at github.com)11:55
mithroseaLne: probably the same as that other power supply you had11:56
seaLneok11:57
mithroseaLne: wp needs a pull up/down resistor for then the jumper is removed11:57
seaLnewith another jumper i guess?11:58
mithroseaLne: nah11:58
mithroseaLne: having a little current draw while you program the EEPROM is no problem11:59
mithroseaLne: you haven't got anything connect to the EN pins of the level shifters - is that what you want?11:59
seaLnei think so11:59
mithroI would guess you need to pull it in some direction?11:59
seaLnei was re-reading the data sheet11:59
mithroseaLne: it's an enable pin right?12:00
seaLneit has internal pullups12:00
mithroseaLne: since you have spare IO pins, why not connect them?12:01
seaLnewould we ever want to disable i2c?12:01
mithroseaLne: dunno, but better to have the feature and not use it :P12:06
mithroxfxf: any thoughts on what to put here -> https://hdmi2usb.tv/early-adopter12:06
seaLnemithro: i'm not too sure what you were meaning me to do with the eeprom wp pullup?12:07
mithroxfxf / micolous: I've simplified the firmware situation on the website and the repositories12:07
xfxfdo you have / will you have a single page of easy to follow instructions to get somebody running with the hdmi2usb?12:07
xfxfbecause it's a bit of a wade through many pages and ask questions here thing at the moment12:07
xfxfi'm yet to try your prebuilt firmware that said, i'm still building it myself because i know that workflow12:08
mithroxfxf: well - the Opsis boards you just plug in and get a Webcam + Serail port without having to load anything12:08
xfxfwill I get the Opsis boards before everybody gets their crowdsourced one?12:08
mithroxfxf: maybe by a day or two12:08
xfxfbecause i'm happy to do a pretend i know nothing about the device and try setting it up from scratch following supplied instructions12:08
xfxfah, not much time12:09
mithroxfxf: you should get them this week sometime12:09
xfxfincluding customs?12:09
xfxfyou said GST was payable12:09
xfxfcustoms can hold shit for weeks...12:09
xfxfusually days, but can be weeks12:09
mithroxfxf: GST payment is normally like a 30 second thing - Fedex give you an invoice, you pay invoice - done12:10
xfxfah, not my experience, but hopefully that's the case12:10
mithroseaLne: the WP pin should have a resistor pulling to either VCC or GND. When the jumper is connected, you connect WP to the other value12:11
mithroSo when you connect the jumper, there will be current running through the pulling resister (as it is now connected between VCC and GND) but it should be a big enough value that it doesn't really matter12:26
mithro(the resistor that is12:26
seaLnemithro: https://imgur.com/WNW5nPu ?12:27
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mithroseaLne: assuming pulling up is putting it in "write protect" mode13:05
seaLneyeah13:06
seaLnei've connected the level shifter EN now as well13:07
seaLnenow you can jumper the DIFF_CLK_X to LEDs instead13:08
seaLnemithro: should tofe 3v3 have a diode like the 12v?13:10
seaLneor would that cause to much of a drop13:10
mithroI think that would cause too much of a drop13:10
xfxfmithro: my VGA > HDMI converter i pasted earlier seems to work at 720p fine with the hdmi2usb13:11
xfxfthe video is slightly blurry, but it's VGA13:11
seaLnei saw these that might be usable http://cpc.farnell.com/pro-signal/psg03649/vgaaudio-to-hdmi-converter-with/dp/AV2138013:13
tpbTitle: PSG03649 - PRO SIGNAL - VGA And Audio to HDMI Converter With Scaler | CPC UK (at cpc.farnell.com)13:13
seaLnemight find someone else selling them13:14
seaLneno idea if they are good though13:14
mithroFixed 1280 x 720p output resolution !?13:16
seaLnethere are others without the scaler but i thought for just now that would be useful?13:16
xfxfmithro: yep, 720p. i could set other resolutions, i got nothing through (assume it's ignoring the EDID data set by the hdmi2usb), but setting it manually worked13:17
xfxfit's not perfect but it's good enough13:17
xfxfVGA only should be a very small % of cases13:17
mithroseaLne: sadly it doesn't look like Farnell Australia stocks them13:18
seaLneyeah cpc is a different catalogue from "normal" farnell13:18
mithroseaLne: so, that schematic is looking pretty good13:52
mithroxfxf: you still up?13:55
mithroseaLne: I also notice we have that open pull request from you about the "make download prebuilt"14:07
seaLnemithro: i think that was superceded by some other thing?14:24
seaLneor rather that work flow was no longer through useful?14:24
mithroseaLne: maybe the mode-switch tool?14:24
seaLneas it still required a lot of the other tools it was only useful for lazy developers while i'd originally thought it might have been for users14:26
seaLneso i think it can probably be forgoten14:27
seaLnemithro: do you think there will be enough interest in tofe-vga to get it "manufactured" or do you think it will just be a low enough volume to place by hand? (this could effect size of passives)14:30
mithroseaLne: I'd go with passives which you can hand solder14:32
seaLneyeah, some will probably have to be a bit small to fit in some places. but it probably makes sense to make the rest larger14:33
seaLneand atleast the first batch would be by hand anyway14:34
mithrothe capacitors have to be reasonable large anyway I think?14:35
mithro(From what I remember of Rohit's board)14:35
seaLnewell the electrolitics anway14:35
seaLne(sp)14:35
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CarlFKreads all the backscroll...15:55
CarlFK".. a built in scaler function which fixes the HDMI output to 1280x720p  resolution no matter what the VGA output resolution is set to."     Price: £32.63                             (£39.156)15:56
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CarlFKseaLne: i saw these - like you can try one, or you saw the web page?17:14
CarlFKI have something like this, and it didn't work at all with hdmi2usb http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=619117:16
CarlFKmithro:  do you think there will be a vga input for the opsis in the next 6 months ?17:33
CarlFKhmm, make that 417:33
CarlFKin Aug I will need something, so I don't mind spending $200i now if I am going to need it then17:34
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mithroCarlFK: poke seaLne about it17:40
mithroDammit, I need to be up in like 4 hours...17:42
cr1901_modernI'm going to idle here too. I really need another IRC client17:42
mithrognight17:42
CarlFKsee ya17:42
mithrocr1901_modern: IRCCloud is pretty good17:42
cr1901_modernHmmm, seems interesting. Lots of integration too17:43
cr1901_modernI use pidgin b/c it's what I'm used to, but it begs for a tabbed interface where you can choose which tabs are displayed17:44
cr1901_modern(No I don't use it for encrypted stuff)17:44
mithroThe mobile client is pretty good17:46
mithroThat is what sold meet17:46
mithroS/meet/me/17:46
mithroUsing it right now as I walk home17:46
CarlFKExtron RGB-HDMI 300 A Estimated delivery:  Tue, Jan. 1917:47
mithroCarlFK: you get use to next day shipping in the US?17:50
mithroAmazon is always, want this tomorrow - order in the next x hours17:51
CarlFKmithro: i normally expect 3-5 days but I don't order that much stuff17:52
mithroBetter then the 2-4 weeks we her here :-)17:53
CarlFKindeed17:53
mithroxfxf: it's looking like these 2 extra hv30 cameras might not turn up...17:54
mithroxfxf: but _florent_ is in the process of receiving the one you sent him17:55
mithroAnd the one which didn't have a power supply did17:56
mithroIf cr1901_modern can get this frequency detection stuff going, it should help me figure out what is going on with them17:57
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cr1901_modernOkay mithro, you've confirmed that flashing works. I'll update OpenOCD in a bit18:06
cr1901_modernmy copy of OpenOCD*18:08
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seaLneif carl comes back while i'm away, i only saw the convertor in the catalogue. so no idea if they are any use18:25
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cr1901_modernmithro: Flashing does not work on my board, despite the claim that the contents match18:45
cr1901_modernThis is with using rjo's bitstream and the commands listed in your third patch set18:49
cr1901_modernUnplugging and plugging back in produces the same results- all 8 LEDs are lit up and no activity18:53
cr1901_modernI REALLY hope that the Flash isn't bad.18:57
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xfxfmithro: i found a working C920 logitech last night; couldn't get a working v4l2-ctl line + gst-switch line to capture off it in mjpeg, though.  do you have something that works?20:48
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MaZderMindmithro: this misght be an interesting read for you: https://github.com/MaZderMind/gst-plugins-bad/blob/inter-rewrite/gst/local/NOTES22:13
tpbTitle: gst-plugins-bad/NOTES at inter-rewrite · MaZderMind/gst-plugins-bad · GitHub (at github.com)22:13
MaZderMindmithro: have not come around to actually code this22:13
mithroxfxf: can you send me a photo of your can, just want to check is the same as I'm thinking.22:14
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mithro"Come round"?22:15
mithroGotten around to?22:15
MaZderMindsorry. late here and foreign language…22:18
mithroNo worries! Were you saying I didn't yet like the idea or that I hadn't gotten around to doing the work yet?22:22
mithroYour English is a bazillion times better then my German :-)22:26
mithro4 hours sleep is not enough22:41
xfxfhttp://www.logitech.com/en-au/product/hd-pro-webcam-c92022:43
tpbTitle: Logitech C920 HD Pro Webcam for Windows, Mac, and Chrome OS (at www.logitech.com)22:43
xfxfmithro: that22:44
xfxfcan't take a pic as at work but its the same camera22:44
xfxfv4l2-ctl says it does mjpeg at 720p30fps22:44
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xfxfI just don't know the magic to get it to do that22:44
mithroOkay22:46
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xfxfoh dear23:01
xfxfthe uni contact just let me know two of the rooms booked apparently have audio transference issues (i.e. can't be used at the same time)23:01
xfxfjust pinged the right people so hopefully will get sorted23:01
MaZderMindmithro: i have not yet gotten around to implement this. my plan is brilliant, of course ;)23:11
mithroxfxf: I get the feeling that the owner of the two HV30 camera didn't like the winning price so has only pretend to ship them and will claim they have been lost in the post.23:24
xfxfmithro: ugh, fun23:25
mithroBut I have enough stuff to work with23:25
xfxfmithro: we have enough cameras for LCA already23:25
mithroReally hope that cr1901_modern is able to knock out that frequency counting stuff in a day or two as that will make it much easier to debug23:26
mithroMaZderMind: Everyone has too many things todo23:27
MaZderMindrestarting voctocore once a day avoids the buggest issues23:29
MaZderMindso it's a not-so-important thing currently23:29
xfxfonce a day is fine - the GUI slowing down every few hours will confuse volunteers (it's not us operating the equipment, it's a team of ~12 others - we're core team) but we have a workaround that's acceptable23:32
xfxfyou mentioned you were using nagios or something to monitor things - are the configs for that online anywhere?23:33

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