Wednesday, 2013-04-24

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iiiemithro: when you get the chance any idea where I need to go for the "user action required"  (I don't have the log.)00:38
iiieI have a connection (I got a message "This connection already exists." when trying to add a connection to timvideos)00:51
parxMain dashboard >  My connections should list your org ( and your role.  There's a drop down list for Status.  It probably says User Action Required.  Change it to Accepted.  See #gsoc for program/mentor/student questions,  #melange for website/technical problems01:44
parxiiie: hope that helps01:45
iiieThanks parx!01:51
iiieAny mailing lists I should be signing up for?01:54
parxYou may want to join the mentors group:!forum/google-summer-of-code-mentors-list02:06
parxNot sure just how much you want but there's also an announce list and a discuss list.02:06
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parxskay check this out!topic/google-summer-of-code-mentors-list/ODxveVUtgFo02:13
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mithrohey iiie02:28
iiiePresent, parx got me pointed in the right direction02:29
mithroskay, Highly likely to have someone in america02:29
mithroiiie> On my desktop I intend to setup a site, collector and encoder each in their own virtual env.02:31
mithroiiie, that won't work02:31
mithroyou can have the02:31
mithrosite + collector02:31
mithroor site + encoder02:31
mithrobut not collector+encoder02:31
iiiefine fine, how about with virtual machines?02:31
mithrothe collector and encoder are their own flumotion instances02:31
mithrothat should work fine02:32
mithroI mean you could run a collector+encoder on a machine, you'd just have to combined the configurations02:32
iiieyeah I remember there being flumotion on two of the three machines02:32
mithrothe website doesn't run flumotion02:32
mithroI think it's diagram drawing time :P02:33
iiiehm, would combined configs be reasonable?  I don't think that would be worth the "yet another configuration" pain02:34
mithroEventually we need some type of "fake encoder" configuration02:36
mithrowhich just has a video loop02:36
mithro(for testing)02:36
iiiefor testing, and maybe for dead air02:37
* iiie will be back in ~2002:43
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mithrohi introom03:10
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rodney757mithro: hello03:26
mithrohi rodney75703:26
mithroso what do you want explained?03:26
rodney757I guess I'm not sure what the streaming system project idea is03:28
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mithrorodney757, so the streaming system exists03:31
mithrorodney757, your job would be to extend / improve it03:31
mithroInfact I just finished a diagram of the system at -
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mithroskay, you'll be interested in that diagram too03:31
introomthis years gsoc is only realted to gstreamer?03:32
mithrointroom, we have projects related to gstreamer and projects unrelated to gstreamer03:32
apshi mithro, is there any specific proposal format for timvideos?03:33
mithroaps, have you seen our tips page?03:34
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apsYes, I've read instructions links given.03:34
mithroaps, otherwise no03:34
apsokay mithro.03:34
rodney757mithro: What are some of the things that timvideos would like to be improved with the streaming system?03:34
mithro  Tasks in the Streaming System Website project -
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rodney757ah. okay. the link from the ideas page was taking me to the first link that you sent me which had no issues for the given filters03:37
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mithrogah, those links broken when I changed the format03:38
rodney757so it looks like the projects for the streaming system require js/html correct?03:42
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tvCommitBot[getting-started] timvideos-website pushed 2 new commits to master:
tvCommitBotgetting-started/master 46c5ae9 mithro: Updated Ideas (markdown)03:42
tvCommitBotgetting-started/master 1ef6aaf Tim 'mithro' Ansell: Merge branch 'master' of
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mithrorodney757, if you wanted to work on the deployment stuff, that could be anything03:42
rodney757When you say the deployment stuff are you refering to some of the issues in the streaming-system repo? Or deployment stuff for the three projects listed under streaming system project filter in the getting-started repo?03:46
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mithroaps, btw did you get fake_register working?03:48
rodney757What is the dificulty of the projects? I don't want to get in over my head :)03:51
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mithrorodney757, some are harder then others03:54
mithrotake a look at
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mithrodoesn't really talk about the python api and how that has changed04:06
rodney757it says that you should be able to port simple applications in less then a day. So would probably need another project to go along with the porting?04:09
rodney757How long do you think it would take to port flomotion?04:09
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mithroprobably a good month or two04:11
apsmithro, not completely. I run fake_register and get this output
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mithrothe output is correct04:15
mithrobut as I was saying04:15
mithroyou are getting the "in room" view04:15
mithro(We have a mode which stops people who are in the room from viewing the video)04:16
mithroaps, try04:16
apsso I need to check from some other pc on LAN? would that do?04:16
apsokay, got it now04:17
mithrowant to paste a screen shot of that into your page?04:17
apssure, just a sec04:17
mithroalso would be great to update the docs about how you got it working04:17
mithrobtw hi mttpgrm! Is there anything I can help you with04:18
apsmithro, added screen shot. I would update docs.04:20
apsI should make changes in README file or create a wiki?04:21
mttpgrmnothing in particular, mithro04:22
mithromttpgrm, your here for GSoC, or just interested?04:22
mttpgrmi had been looking at a couple of the python project for gsoc and i thought i might be able to gain something by reading along in here while i was looking at the projects04:22
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rodney757do you think that porting flomotion and the website to django's class based views would make for a good proposal? Or would that be too much for the summer?04:28
mithroI would say that porting flumotion would be a good core proposal04:29
mithrobut have a bunch of "extra if I have time" ideas related to flumotion04:29
rodney757okay. thanks. I will look into the porting more04:35
mithrorodney757, testing is going to be the hard part04:44
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tvCommitBot[streaming-system] aps-sids opened pull request #36: Updated README (master...master)
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mithroaps, looking at your README pull request05:04
mithroI don't understand the write permission thing?05:04
apswhen I used make serve to run server, it creates virtualenv for server. Now, since these folders dont have write permissions, fake_register couldn't write to sqlite database.05:06
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tvCommitBot[streaming-system] mithro pushed 3 new commits to master:
tvCommitBotstreaming-system/master b656cdb SIDS: Consolidated CSS files into one style.css05:09
tvCommitBotstreaming-system/master 8c033d3 SIDS: Consolidated CSS files into one style.css05:09
tvCommitBotstreaming-system/master f213632 Tim Ansell: Merge pull request #35 from aps-sids/consolidateCSS...05:09
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mithroaps, good job on the pull requests05:12
mithroaps, so what project are you thinking of working on?05:12
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mithrobtw you took a look at right?05:12
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mithro<mithro> btw you took a look at right?05:15
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mithrooh and05:16
mithro<mithro> aps, good job on the pull requests05:16
mithro<mithro> aps, so what project are you thinking of working on?05:16
apsthanks mithro, I am making proposal for "Adding bug-reporting and auto-debugging functionality in streaming system website for users who are facing problems with the stream."05:17
mithroaps, okay - I'd recommend putting in a proposal ASAP so we can start giving feedback05:20
apsYes, I'm working on that only. It should be there by today.05:21
apsmithro, did some corrections in README pull request.05:35
mithroaps, it's triple backtick ```05:36
mithroaps, you should never change something to 777 either05:36
mithrocan you also squash the commits?05:37
apsyes, will do05:37
mithrobtw what is your umask?05:39
mithroaps, I'd like to get to the bottom of the permission issue05:48
mithrocould you do a fresh checkout and see if you get that issue again?05:53
apsokay, let me stash the commits first. I'm reading about it.  #noob05:54
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apsmithro, I kind of messed it up. I had to delete and refork the repo. So please close that pull request, I'll send a new one.06:29
mithroaps, okay07:08
mithroI'll be back shortly07:08
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mithro-hi bananadine11:45
mithro-anything I can help you with?11:45
bananadineShould i just write here in the channel?11:45
mithro-yeah here in the channel is fine11:54
mithro-it means other people can reply too11:54
bananadinewell i'm kinda stuck with Tip 2 - Project First, Resume Second11:57
bananadinei want to write a short description of the project11:57
bananadinebut i think i write it too short11:58
bananadinecan i paste it?12:01
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mithro-the project is going to be longer then a short description12:25
mithro-bananadine, sorry - I got distracted by reddit12:25
mithro-bananadine, your going to want to include a timeline and milestones that you'll complete12:25
mithro-and how we might want to evaluate those milestones12:25
mithro-hello Juggerr, can I help you with anything?12:25
bananadineoh yea, i will include a timeline12:26
bananadinei was just wondering about a short description12:27
bananadinebut yea about that timeline...12:35
bananadinehow do i break down porting in a timeline?12:36
mithro-bananadine, figure out what the major things which need to change12:36
mithro-or how much you'll have to change for a minimal system to get working12:37
bananadinei have some vague idea like: Find out where gstreamer is used in the code, get familiar with those parts of gst which are used in flumotion and start applying changes12:39
bananadineoh and before applying changes, first see if it needs any change12:42
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mithro-you should be finding out where gstreamer is used in the code now12:47
bananadinealready doing this, but i'll include it in my timeline as well12:51
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mithro-hi pranjaldaga, can I help you?13:14
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pranjaldagahi mithro13:20
mithro-wb hyades13:20
mithro-pranjaldaga, here for GSoC or just generally interested?13:20
pranjaldagaI, PRANJAL DAGA, currently B.Tech Computer Science and Engineering student, am really interested in taking up the project "Streaming System" listed on your Ideas Page13:21
pranjaldagamithro , can u help me out in how to proceed on with this idea?13:22
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mithro-the "Streaming System" is an existing project that you can contribute too13:22
pranjaldagaIt has been included in the Ideas Page for gsoc13:23
pranjaldagaso it must be a GSoC 2013 project, right?13:24
mithro-pranjaldaga, your misreading the page13:34
mithro-Ideas Page contains links and information about the ideas13:34
mithro-for a bunch of projects under TimVideos.us13:34
bananadinemithro, does the porting need to include the PyGtk parts or just PyGST?13:35
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pranjaldagacan I have the list of project proposed by timvideos for GSoC 2013?13:35
mithro-bananadine, the PyGtk parts shouldn't need changing13:35
bananadineok thanks13:36
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mithro-hello Juggerr14:10
mithro-can I help you with anything?14:10
JuggerrOh, I have decided write questions and info on github, because I have too many text for IRC14:14
CarlFKmorning  folks14:17
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apshi mithro, i did a fresh checkout but folder permissions problem is not coming up now. So, I think it's better to change README to "If you get write error, do this.." What would be correct chmod values in case we need to change it?14:22
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mithro-well, if I knew which folder/file was causing the problem14:23
mithro-directory should be something like 75514:23
mithro-for a file it should be 644 unless it is suppose to be executable14:23
apsbasically virtualenv folders are created inside website directory. they cause problem if they dont have appropriate write permissions14:24
apsthere are some executables as well, 755 should be correct i guess.14:25
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bananadinemithro, i was reading porting tips and saw that it's not only gst replaced by gi but also gobject14:29
mithro-I don't know the specifics, so you'll have to explain that more14:29
bananadinei opened flumotion/common/gstreamer.py14:30
bananadineand there you have import gobject and  import gst14:30
bananadinewhich for the porting need to be replaced with import gi14:31
bananadineaccording to this
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tvCommitBot[streaming-system] aps-sids opened pull request #37: Updated README (master...master)
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