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| shikher | nathaniel: Can I talk to you about the review on revision b173679a7031 ? | 01:16 |
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| shikher | nathanielmanista: Can I talk to you about the review on revision b173679a7031 ? | 01:24 |
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| shikher | madrazr: Hi, What is the mockup directory? | 04:43 |
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| ariz | hello | 05:15 |
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| madrazr | shikher: to keep our design mockups | 05:36 |
| madrazr | ariz__: hello | 05:36 |
| shikher | madrazr: they are just sort of trials right, as in they do not affect the main website? | 05:37 |
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| madrazr | shikher: as in? | 05:41 |
| madrazr | shikher: they are the designs using which the website is built | 05:42 |
| madrazr | shikher: so what do you mean by "they do not affect the main website" | 05:42 |
| madrazr | ? | 05:42 |
| shikher | madrazr: I meant the css for the templates exists inside the build directory and not inside mockups directory. | 05:43 |
| shikher | madrazr: Also, some views exist in app/soc while some views exist in app/summerofcode. Is this because melange is going under internal redesign? | 05:46 |
| madrazr | shikher: correct about mockups | 05:50 |
| madrazr | shikher: correct about CSS files and its directories too | 05:51 |
| shikher | madrazr: I wanted to discuss about for_host entity used for Program Admins. Do you mean that you manually enter the program admins into the datastore on the google Console as their is no current UI way of doing it? | 05:55 |
| madrazr | shikher: yes | 05:57 |
| madrazr | shikher: I do it through remote API | 05:57 |
| madrazr | on a console | 05:57 |
| madrazr | as in a shell | 05:57 |
| madrazr | on the command line | 05:57 |
| shikher | madrazr: Do you have a different datastore for GCI and GSOC? If not, then how do you know which admins belong to which program? | 05:58 |
| shikher | madrazr: Ignore the 1st question. | 05:59 |
| shikher | madrazr: gotta run for class, I will discus this with you later. Bye. | 06:05 |
| madrazr | shikher: alright | 06:05 |
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| buildbot_beta | Hey! build runtests #88 is complete: Warnings [warnings 1018 tests | 07:13 |
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| buildbot_beta | Build details are at http://ec2-54-213-126-99.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com/builders/runtests/builds/88 | 07:13 |
| tpb | Title: Buildbot: runtests Build #88 (at ec2-54-213-126-99.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) | 07:13 |
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| piyush | gsocbot: timeline | 07:29 |
| piyush | gsocbot: help | 07:29 |
| gsocbot | piyush: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. | 07:29 |
| piyush | gsocbot: help timeline | 07:30 |
| gsocbot | piyush: Error: There is no command "timeline". | 07:30 |
| piyush | gsocbot: help commands | 07:30 |
| gsocbot | piyush: Error: There is no command "commands". | 07:30 |
| piyush | gsocbot: list | 07:30 |
| gsocbot | piyush: Admin, Channel, Config, Factoids, Gsoc, Misc, Owner, Services, and User | 07:30 |
| piyush | gsocbot: mailing list | 07:30 |
| piyush | gsocbot: User | 07:30 |
| piyush | gsocbot: usage | 07:31 |
| olly_ | !botabuse | piyush | 07:58 |
| olly_ | hmm, it doesn't know that here | 07:58 |
| olly_ | piyush: go into query with gsocbot and use "factoids search #melange *" | 08:00 |
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| vivekjain | madrazr: nathanielmanista: I have attached the patch for issue no 2028 https://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=2028 Please review. | 10:04 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/AzBy> (at code.google.com) | 10:04 |
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| Lennie | piyush, awesome stuff | 10:40 |
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| piyush | Lennie: I agree, I am excited as well ! | 10:53 |
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| piyush | buildbot_beta: force build runtests | 14:31 |
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| RoonyH | buildbot_beta: hello | 14:57 |
| buildbot_beta | yes? | 14:57 |
| RoonyH | welcome to melange! :) | 14:58 |
| RoonyH | piyush: awsome work! | 14:58 |
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| vivekjain | @piyush hi..how to add a file in the patch .. ?? | 15:48 |
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| Lennie | vivekjain, git add ? | 15:51 |
| vivekjain | @Lennie Thanks | 15:54 |
| Lennie | vivekjain, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/315911/git-for-beginners-the-definitive-practical-guide | 15:55 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/5Shr> (at stackoverflow.com) | 15:55 |
| Lennie | might be a good resource | 15:55 |
| vivekjain | Lennie: Thanks | 15:56 |
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| RaulT | hello! Is it somone here who can help me reproduce an issue ? | 17:44 |
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| blast007 | RaulT: the IRC workflow works best when you just ask the question you have and wait for an answer instead of asking to ask a question. :) | 18:38 |
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| RaulT | Regarding code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=1912 can somone help me replicate the problem ? | 18:40 |
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| shikher | madrazr: As I was asking you yesterday, Do GCI and GSOC both have separate program admins, and if so, how does host_for entity differentiate between Program Admins which belong to GSOC or GCI? | 21:56 |
| madrazr | shikher: no | 21:56 |
| ayushk | madrazr: was my patch accepted? | 21:56 |
| madrazr | shikher: program admins are not per program | 21:57 |
| ayushk | madrazr: issue #1590 | 21:57 |
| madrazr | shikher: program admins are per sponsor | 21:57 |
| madrazr | shikher: if you make a user a program admin for a sponsor, i.e. add the sponsor key to the user's host_for property list, then that user will be a program admin for all the programs created under that sponsor | 21:58 |
| madrazr | ayushk: obviously not | 21:58 |
| madrazr | ayushk: it is not even reviewed | 21:58 |
| shikher | madrazr: sponsor? | 21:58 |
| madrazr | shikher: what is your question? | 21:58 |
| ayushk | madrazr: What changes are required? | 21:58 |
| shikher | madrazr: What is a sponsor? | 21:58 |
| ayushk | madrazr: I mean in the patch | 21:58 |
| madrazr | ayushk: I haven't looked at it | 21:59 |
| madrazr | if I had reviewed | 21:59 |
| madrazr | I would have sent the email | 21:59 |
| madrazr | I have no intension to hold back the review if I spend time on it | 21:59 |
| madrazr | shikher: a sponsor is one who sponsors the programs | 21:59 |
| madrazr | shikher: all the programs should be sponsored by a sponsor | 22:00 |
| shikher | madrazr: who is sponsoring GSOC14'? | 22:00 |
| madrazr | shikher: it is one of the foundations of the Melange architecture | 22:00 |
| ayushk | madrazr: sure. Daniel reviewed the first patch. And so will he review the new one as well. And how do I contact him? | 22:00 |
| madrazr | shikher: I would rather every student spend some time understanding our architecture and hierarchies | 22:00 |
| madrazr | shikher: obviously, the answer, as the name suggests, Google | 22:01 |
| madrazr | *is Google | 22:01 |
| madrazr | ayushk: that I don't know. Whoever finds time first will | 22:01 |
| madrazr | ayushk: as I told you yesterday already, it is important to note that we are all in different timezones | 22:02 |
| madrazr | and it is a holiday in the US today (Monday) | 22:02 |
| madrazr | ayushk: people have lives outside Melange and Google Summer of Code | 22:02 |
| madrazr | so patience | 22:02 |
| madrazr | and as you are all seeing, we are having a deluge of new students at this time of the year | 22:03 |
| madrazr | and lot of activity due to Summer of Code work itself | 22:03 |
| ayushk | madrazr: sorry. I was just excited. First patch and all! | 22:03 |
| madrazr | ayushk: I understand | 22:04 |
| shikher | madrazr: I want to know then what does it mean by adding/removing program admins, if program admins are determined by sponsors. Then what's the purpose of making a UI way in Admin DashBoard? | 22:05 |
| madrazr | shikher: I am sorry, I don't understand your question | 22:07 |
| madrazr | shikher: the purpose of making the UI is to make someone a program admin | 22:08 |
| madrazr | and remove them | 22:08 |
| madrazr | *or remove them | 22:08 |
| madrazr | shikher: to give a more concrete example | 22:09 |
| ayushk | madrazr: Why isn't there a view profile page for GCI? | 22:09 |
| madrazr | ayushk: GCI is not the focus at the moment | 22:09 |
| madrazr | a lot of profile code was rewritten recently | 22:09 |
| madrazr | as recently as in the last few weeks | 22:10 |
| madrazr | and with Summer of Code hectic-ness, we do not have enough engineering bandwidth to fix things for GCI right now | 22:10 |
| madrazr | ayushk: and we don't know if there will be a GCI until Google announces | 22:10 |
| madrazr | ayushk: so not the core-team's priority at the moment | 22:11 |
| madrazr | we will anyway fix it even if Google does not announce a program to keep Melange working | 22:11 |
| madrazr | but not now, not right now from any of us in the core team | 22:11 |
| madrazr | ayushk: if there are any student contributors who would like to help us with it, patches always welcome | 22:11 |
| madrazr | shikher: PA1 runs the program for sponsor S | 22:12 |
| madrazr | shikher: now this is becoming so hectic that PA1 can't handle all the programs alone | 22:12 |
| madrazr | shikher: now S hires a new person to help PA1, this person is let's say PA2 | 22:13 |
| madrazr | shikher: how do you make PA2 the program admin too? | 22:13 |
| madrazr | shikher: right now, one of us, i.e. Melange devs should open up our command line shell and manually fiddle with the user entity to make some one a program admin | 22:14 |
| shikher | madrazr: Should PA's be categorized by sponsors and not programs? | 22:14 |
| madrazr | shikher: however, what the issue requires is a UI for an already program admin to make other users program admins | 22:14 |
| madrazr | shikher: correct | 22:14 |
| shikher | Should this page be added to GSOC and GCI both? | 22:15 |
| madrazr | shikher: start with GSoC | 22:15 |
| shikher | madrazr: How do I know if a sponsor is sponsoring GSOC, GCI? | 22:17 |
| madrazr | as I said | 22:17 |
| madrazr | a sponsor is site-wide | 22:17 |
| madrazr | you create programs under a sponsor | 22:17 |
| madrazr | you can create any program under a sponsor | 22:18 |
| shikher | madrazr: ok, so these sponsors will be the same for GSOC and GCI. | 22:18 |
| madrazr | shikher: yes | 22:18 |
| madrazr | shikher: or see it the other way | 22:18 |
| madrazr | any program can be created under a sponsor | 22:18 |
| shikher | Doesn't that mean Program Admins should be added globally and not particulary inside a AdminDashboard of GSOC or GCI? | 22:19 |
| shikher | madrazr: Doesn't that mean Program Admins should be added globally and not particulary inside a AdminDashboard of GSOC or GCI? | 22:28 |
| shikher | madrazr: Also, how do | 22:35 |
| shikher | madrazr: nvm | 22:37 |
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| madrazr | shikher: well | 23:47 |
| madrazr | that's a fair question | 23:47 |
| madrazr | shikher: but that's the problem of bootstrapping right | 23:47 |
| madrazr | shikher: as Archimedes said over 2000 years ago, "Give me a place to stand on, and I will move the Earth" | 23:48 |
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| madrazr | shikher: it is the same problem as creating a new program | 23:48 |
| madrazr | you need to provide some sort of an admin interface to create a program that does not exist, where would you put that? | 23:49 |
| madrazr | shikher: so putting it in some admin dashboard is a reasonable thing to do, at least for now | 23:49 |
| madrazr | shikher: makes sense? | 23:49 |
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