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| SRabbelier | eh, they should be? | 00:00 |
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| pjcj | I did a bulk upload with two mentors and order changed | 00:02 |
| vperic | it's reverse order | 00:02 |
| SRabbelier | most curious | 00:02 |
| vperic | Yeah, I noticed that too | 00:03 |
| SRabbelier | I don't see anything that would cause that to happen though | 00:03 |
| SRabbelier | so no clue | 00:03 |
| vperic | Not like it matters too much. | 00:03 |
| vperic | And even if it did it's too late now. :D | 00:03 |
| SRabbelier | true | 00:03 |
| pjcj | only too late for one of my tasks | 00:04 |
| pjcj | if it is reverse order I'll alter my upload | 00:04 |
| vperic | Yeah, it's definitely just reverse order. | 00:05 |
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| pjcj | OK, then I'll try the next one with reverse order and see how it goes | 00:06 |
| * rafl hopes it's just ordered alphabetically by surname so he won't end up being listed first in all the tasks pjcj is about to create | 00:06 | |
| vperic | it's definitely not alphabetic, rafl | 00:07 |
| rafl | darn. | 00:07 |
| pjcj | areverse <ESC>:w :) | 00:09 |
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| pjcj | reverse order on the mentors made no difference | 00:28 |
| vperic | pjcj: I dunno, but "mrocklin, vperic, krastanov, asmeurer" definitely ain't alphabetic (not even if you consider our first names or last names).. it is, however, exactly the reverse of what we had in the csv file.. /me shrugs. | 00:31 |
| pjcj | I only had two mentors and it made no difference the order I had them in | 00:32 |
| pjcj | I'm past caring :) | 00:32 |
| pjcj | I think tags are reordered too | 00:33 |
| vperic | well, the issues appear in random order | 00:34 |
| vperic | so I guess it's safe to say mentors get reordered somehow too | 00:35 |
| vperic | though they're all in same order for me | 00:35 |
| vperic | hence the reverse-order idea | 00:35 |
| vperic | oh well | 00:35 |
| pjcj | is ther any limit to the number of tasks I should upload at once | 00:36 |
| pjcj | either specified or empirical? | 00:36 |
| asmeurer_ | no | 00:37 |
| pjcj | thanks | 00:37 |
| asmeurer_ | I was doing ten at a time, but then I jumped to doing the last 100 at once | 00:37 |
| pjcj | k | 00:37 |
| asmeurer_ | I would do a few at a time, and verify that they are right | 00:37 |
| asmeurer_ | because you can't bulk delete tasks | 00:37 |
| pjcj | right | 00:37 |
| asmeurer_ | anyway, any errors will be in the email, so make sure to check that after each upload | 00:37 |
| pjcj | OK, thanks | 00:38 |
| pjcj | Where does Difficulty: Unknown come from? | 00:45 |
| asmeurer_ | it's a bug | 00:47 |
| asmeurer_ | you just have to fix it manually | 00:47 |
| pjcj | hmmm, OK thanks again | 00:48 |
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| pjcj | I did a bulk upload about 20 minutes ago. I've got no mail and the tasks aren't in the list. Can anyone let me know whether the upload has failed or if it's still running? | 01:29 |
| pjcj | madrazr or SRabbelier, that's a question for you, I suppose | 01:30 |
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| pjcj | OK, it looks like it's just uploaded the tasks | 01:34 |
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| madrazr | pjcj: cool! | 01:52 |
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| madrazr | pjcj: and no email? | 01:52 |
| Jumpyshoes | hi all, i'm an org admin for videolan | 01:52 |
| Jumpyshoes | we're having great trouble uploading tasks | 01:53 |
| madrazr | Jumpyshoes: Hi | 01:53 |
| madrazr | Jumpyshoes: and they are? | 01:53 |
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| Jumpyshoes | is there any reason why the export format not the same as the import format? | 01:53 |
| Jumpyshoes | it makes it very difficult to duplicate tasks | 01:53 |
| pjcj | it's hard to tell which mail relates to which upload, but I think I just got the last mail - trouble viewing the tasks though | 01:53 |
| madrazr | Jumpyshoes: Export format is customizable | 01:54 |
| madrazr | Jumpyshoes: import format is not | 01:54 |
| madrazr | pjcj: it should not be that difficult, the email should list the tasks that had problem uploading | 01:55 |
| madrazr | pjcj: that should tell you which upload the email refers to | 01:55 |
| Jumpyshoes | madrazr: how do i customize export to have the same format as the import? | 01:55 |
| pjcj | no tasks have errors, it's just taking forever | 01:55 |
| Jumpyshoes | also what is the unknown difficulty | 01:57 |
| madrazr | Jumpyshoes: hmm... I may be wrong, but it may not be possible, unless we figure out some way to order the columns the same way it is needed | 01:58 |
| madrazr | that is definitely not possible for now | 01:58 |
| madrazr | Jumpyshoes: that means that uploader was not able to figure out what the difficulty for the task was | 01:59 |
| madrazr | Jumpyshoes: feel free to edit the task to set the difficulty | 01:59 |
| Jumpyshoes | madrazr: i see, so we can modify it after the fact? i.e. during the competition? | 01:59 |
| madrazr | Jumpyshoes: not during the competition | 01:59 |
| madrazr | Jumpyshoes: but you can edit it now, yes! | 01:59 |
| Jumpyshoes | madrazr: ah, thanks | 02:00 |
| madrazr | Jumpyshoes: NP | 02:00 |
| madrazr | pjcj: you do not know if there are any errors, if it is taking forever :) | 02:00 |
| madrazr | pjcj: you get an email only after one upload job is complete | 02:00 |
| madrazr | :) | 02:00 |
| pjcj | well, I got the email and it said the time the upload started | 02:01 |
| madrazr | pjcj: which organization btw? | 02:01 |
| pjcj | but instead of adding tasks it seems to have removed the last bulk upload | 02:01 |
| pjcj | Perl | 02:01 |
| pjcj | I'm seeing 100 tasks total - there were 200 before I started the last bulk upload | 02:01 |
| madrazr | pjcj: that is weird | 02:03 |
| pjcj | that's one word :) | 02:03 |
| madrazr | pjcj: unfortunately I don't see any errors on your tasks while uploading | 02:06 |
| pjcj | no, I was very careful :) | 02:07 |
| madrazr | pjcj: heh | 02:11 |
| pjcj | can you see how many tasks we actually have at the moment? | 02:11 |
| pjcj | the app is reporting 100, the last figure I saw was 200, I have uploaded 336 | 02:12 |
| pjcj | madrazr: also, I'm regularly getting "Error retrieving data: please refresh the list or the whole page to try again" on the tasks page | 02:18 |
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| pjcj | hey folks, madrazr, SRabbelier, can anyone help here? It's 3:40 am for me and I'm rather keen to get this sorted | 02:41 |
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| madrazr | pjcj: I hope you are still not awake | 04:35 |
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| pjcj | madrazr: were to able find out anything? | 04:55 |
| pjcj | the teasks page is now reporting 200 tasks ahain, when it does not give errors | 04:55 |
| pjcj | the 200 seem to be selected from amongst the 336 tasks I have uploaded | 04:55 |
| pjcj | and then it went to 100 tasks | 05:01 |
| pjcj | now it's showing 337 | 05:01 |
| asmeurer | I think that's just loading | 05:02 |
| pjcj | after four hours? | 05:02 |
| pjcj | anyway, I'll asume all tasks are uploaded and it's just display problems | 05:03 |
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| madrazr | pjcj: it does load then! | 05:07 |
| madrazr | pjcj: the thing is | 05:07 |
| madrazr | we fetch tasks in batches | 05:08 |
| madrazr | pjcj: batch of 100 | 05:08 |
| madrazr | pjcj: we are sorry to having you kept awake :( | 05:09 |
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| pjcj | OK, so the batch loading made it look as if some of my uploads had failed or rolled back | 05:36 |
| pjcj | I have one duplicate somewhere while I'll look for later | 05:37 |
| pjcj | thanks | 05:37 |
| Jumpyshoes | can i mass delete tasks? | 05:38 |
| madrazr | Jumpyshoes: not yet | 05:54 |
| madrazr | Jumpyshoes: but I can help | 05:54 |
| Jumpyshoes | madrazr: for videolan, i typoed in the task description: "Write an assembly function": "Points will be awarded if once" -> "Points will be awarded once | 05:55 |
| Jumpyshoes | " | 05:56 |
| madrazr | Jumpyshoes: Oh | 06:01 |
| madrazr | Jumpyshoes: s/Oh/Ok/ | 06:01 |
| dreimark | madrazr: i don't have an admin view for moin but I signed to become thebackup admin | 06:06 |
| madrazr | dreimark: your user id on Melange? | 06:07 |
| dreimark | rb_proj | 06:07 |
| dreimark | madrazr: ^ | 06:08 |
| madrazr | dreimark: sorry | 06:25 |
| madrazr | looking it up | 06:25 |
| dreimark | ok | 06:39 |
| madrazr | dreimark: your project ID is moin? | 06:41 |
| dreimark | Organization: MoinMoin Wiki | 06:41 |
| dreimark | madrazr: Organization ID moinmoin | 06:42 |
| dreimark | some days ago i was able to modify the org profile | 06:42 |
| dreimark | madrazr: ^ | 06:43 |
| madrazr | dreimark: sure, I searched on the name | 06:43 |
| madrazr | dreimark: it looks like you are not listed as one of the admins for GCI 2011 program | 06:52 |
| madrazr | but you are for 2010 | 06:52 |
| madrazr | dreimark: please ask your org admin to invite you as org admin again | 06:53 |
| madrazr | he can do some from his dashboard | 06:54 |
| dreimark | OK | 06:54 |
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| Arc | ok | 08:04 |
| Arc | midnight pst has hit | 08:04 |
| valorie | trying to fix the "unapproved" -- I'm not being allowed to | 08:05 |
| valorie | I hit submit, and it comes back to the edit page | 08:05 |
| valorie | dunno why we have so many, but we have quite a few | 08:06 |
| Arc | some of our tasks are unpublished, some unapproved | 08:06 |
| Arc | it looks like those added via bulk are unpublished, while those added via web form are unapproved | 08:07 |
| valorie | i'm trying to approve them | 08:08 |
| valorie | but nothing is happening | 08:08 |
| valorie | the mentors who submitted them aren't able to see the unapproved ones | 08:08 |
| Arc | as i understand they were all suppose to change to published at midnight pst - 8 minutes ago - automatically | 08:09 |
| madrazr | Arc: the tasks created by org admins are unpublished | 08:09 |
| madrazr | Arc: the tasks created by mentors are Unapproved | 08:09 |
| Arc | i created most of them either via webform or bulk | 08:09 |
| madrazr | the idea is, some time later, Org Admins will have the capability to Approve the tasks created by Org admins | 08:09 |
| madrazr | Arc: since you bulk uploaded, you are the org admin for your org and all the tasks you bulk uploaded should be unpublished! | 08:10 |
| madrazr | valorie: all the Unapproved tasks will be published | 08:11 |
| madrazr | so no worries I guess? | 08:11 |
| valorie | ah, ok | 08:11 |
| valorie | wonder why the mentors can't see them then | 08:11 |
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| Arc | madrazr: so i guess they're being published now, its just taking time? | 08:12 |
| madrazr | Arc: we are deploying, yes! | 08:13 |
| madrazr | Arc: they will be very soon | 08:13 |
| Arc | cool. | 08:13 |
| Arc | time for a bite to eat, and then finish up my gsoc report for the psf board | 08:14 |
| ptressel | Gotta problem: We have one mentor who apparently didn't receive his invite, so our tasks that had his link id on them didn't upload. | 08:15 |
| ptressel | We're trying to resend the invite, but since it's already been sent, we're not being allowed to resend it. Can't find a "cancel" for the original. | 08:16 |
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| SRabbelier | ptressel: it should be onhis dashboard | 08:16 |
| ptressel | He's looked... | 08:16 |
| ptressel | We made him look repeatedly. | 08:16 |
| Arc | we had to resend an invite a few times | 08:16 |
| ptressel | Arc, How did you manage the resend? | 08:17 |
| ptressel | Did you clear the original one somehow? | 08:17 |
| Arc | i just went back into the invite a mentor and put his linkid in again. | 08:17 |
| Arc | it was like the invite was never sent | 08:17 |
| ptressel | Our admin is trying to resend, but getting blocked because the original is still there. | 08:17 |
| Arc | oh weird | 08:17 |
| ptressel | Aha, so that's a different case, it sounds like. | 08:17 |
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| SRabbelier | ok wait | 08:18 |
| ptressel | And there's our admin, ^ | 08:18 |
| ptressel | The missing mentor is nursix. | 08:18 |
| SRabbelier | have him copy paste his link_id from the left hand 'status' column? | 08:18 |
| ptressel | You mean in case the link id isn't what he thinks it is... | 08:19 |
| * SRabbelier coughs | 08:20 | |
| * valorie hands SRabbelier a coughdrop | 08:20 | |
| SRabbelier | valorie: most kind | 08:20 |
| ptressel | Here's what the missing mentor has on his status: | 08:21 |
| ptressel | You are logged in as: [email protected] (change) | 08:21 |
| ptressel | Your username is: nursix | 08:21 |
| SRabbelier | ptressel: and when you enter 'nursix' as link_id? | 08:21 |
| ptressel | michaelhowden, What happened when you did that? | 08:22 |
| ptressel | nursix says he's getting status updates for the invite, just not the invite itself! | 08:22 |
| michaelhowden | For what exactly - for the invite? | 08:22 |
| ptressel | When you try to resend it. | 08:22 |
| michaelhowden | User nursix has already been invited to become mentor. | 08:23 |
| SRabbelier | err | 08:23 |
| SRabbelier | the email he receives | 08:23 |
| SRabbelier | the "status update" | 08:23 |
| SRabbelier | that's the invite :P | 08:23 |
| SRabbelier | it contains a link | 08:23 |
| ptressel | Aha... | 08:23 |
| SRabbelier | perhaps he's using a retarded email client? | 08:23 |
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| ptressel | He looked -- no link. | 08:25 |
| ptressel | The message says... | 08:25 |
| valorie | he might have to look at the raw email | 08:25 |
| valorie | there is a bug | 08:25 |
| ptressel | Hi, Your invite to become a Mentor for has been resubmitted. | 08:25 |
| SRabbelier | valorie: always interesting | 08:25 |
| ptressel | Ok. | 08:25 |
| SRabbelier | ptressel: ok, so he should find the original one | 08:25 |
| SRabbelier | and/or go to his dashboard | 08:25 |
| SRabbelier | have him make a screenshot of his dashboard :P | 08:25 |
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| ptressel | Ok, I asked him. | 08:27 |
| ptressel | He looked at the raw text and found a link to the dashboard. | 08:29 |
| ptressel | And he says the link is incorrect. http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/profile/google/gci2011 | 08:29 |
| SRabbelier | that's not the right link indeed | 08:30 |
| SRabbelier | when he's logged in | 08:30 |
| SRabbelier | in the sidebar | 08:30 |
| SRabbelier | there's two links to his dashboard | 08:30 |
| SRabbelier | the top one is the one he needs | 08:31 |
| ptressel | His dashboard is empty -- only says participant dashboard. | 08:31 |
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| ptressel | Here he is. ^ | 08:31 |
| SRabbelier | I don't see join msgs | 08:31 |
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| ptressel | nursix: SRabbelierwhen he's logged in, in the sidebar there's two links to his dashboard | 08:32 |
| ptressel | nursix: SRabbelierthe top one is the one he needs | 08:32 |
| nursix | What do you need from there SRabbelier? | 08:32 |
| valorie | http://www.google-melange.com/gci/profile/google/gci2011 | 08:32 |
| tpb | Title: Google Accounts (at www.google-melange.com) | 08:32 |
| valorie | is the correct URL | 08:32 |
| nursix | I am there | 08:33 |
| nursix | The page is empty | 08:33 |
| SRabbelier | valorie: no your dashboard is at http://www.google-melange.com/gci/dashboard/google/gci2011 | 08:33 |
| tpb | Title: Google Accounts (at www.google-melange.com) | 08:33 |
| nursix | It says "Paticipant dashboard" and that's it | 08:33 |
| SRabbelier | ah | 08:33 |
| SRabbelier | that's curious :) | 08:33 |
| nursix | And the profile contains the form | 08:33 |
| SRabbelier | I"ll deal with you later | 08:33 |
| SRabbelier | gotta launch a site first | 08:33 |
| valorie | yes, dashboard is | 08:33 |
| valorie | true | 08:34 |
| nursix | I have a funny selector on my profile page to select an image file | 08:34 |
| nursix | No explanation on that | 08:34 |
| michaelhowden | SRabbelier: We can't add half our tasks without nursix as a mentor.. :S | 08:35 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: ^ | 08:35 |
| nursix | What am I supposed to select from that box and what for? | 08:35 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: can you help him? | 08:35 |
| madrazr | nursix: it will be one of the avatars, which indicates one of your profile pictures | 08:36 |
| madrazr | nursix: :) | 08:36 |
| madrazr | nursix: so select the one that you think fits you the best :) | 08:36 |
| nursix | How? It shows just filenames | 08:37 |
| madrazr | nursix: choose one for now, you can edit it later! | 08:37 |
| madrazr | also it is not a mandatory field! | 08:37 |
| nursix | Ugh - and if it is a grizzly bear or a pink elephant - how would I know :S | 08:38 |
| nursix | No, didn't choose one, just wondering what this was for | 08:38 |
| madrazr | nursix: It is not that bad | 08:38 |
| madrazr | nursix: we will soon have a fancy UI to see what they are on the profile page itself | 08:38 |
| michaelhowden | Umm… is this an essential step in getting nursix added as a mentor for Sahana | 08:39 |
| nursix | No, it's not mandatory | 08:39 |
| nursix | I was just wondering whether it would be | 08:39 |
| michaelhowden | I can't currently upload a heap of tasks where nursix is mentor? | 08:39 |
| ptressel | no, optional, nursix just asked what it was. | 08:39 |
| michaelhowden | madrazr: Any why you can add nursix as a mentor for Sahana directly? | 08:40 |
| ptressel | Was just asking the same thing... | 08:40 |
| * valorie waves at ptressel | 08:41 | |
| ptressel | Hi! | 08:41 |
| valorie | how are you this dark, damp night? | 08:42 |
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| ptressel | Freezing. 33 degrees outside, not that warm inside. | 08:42 |
| ptressel | (Remind me -- I should probably know you but have forgotten...) | 08:43 |
| ptressel | (I expect I'll be embarrassed a bit...) | 08:44 |
| Arc | wow, I actually have been adding tasks for so long today that I forgot that I spent the morning making thanksgiving meals for the elderly across town, but it wasnt that cold out this morning. | 08:44 |
| valorie | pat, it's valorie | 08:45 |
| ptressel | Nice, Arc! | 08:45 |
| madrazr | michaelhowden: not really | 08:45 |
| madrazr | he should at least create his profile | 08:45 |
| ptressel | Oh, *that* valorie!!!! | 08:45 |
| Arc | ptressel: yea we managed to get 76 up. was aiming for 100. next year we'll have a better infrastructure for compiling them ahead of time | 08:45 |
| ptressel | D'oh. | 08:46 |
| michaelhowden | madrazr: I believe he has a profiel.... | 08:46 |
| michaelhowden | Hey valorie! | 08:46 |
| valorie | heh | 08:46 |
| * ptressel blushes | 08:46 | |
| valorie | {{{{hugs}}}} | 08:46 |
| michaelhowden | madrazr, and while I'm bugging you about this - we met at the GSoC summit right? | 08:46 |
| ptressel | Now I remember having trouble w/ the linkedin request, having spelled your name w/o the o. | 08:46 |
| valorie | np, it's a nailbiter when you are trying to get in under the wire | 08:46 |
| Arc | i think we all met at gsoc. it seems like it was a prerequisite for getting in :-) | 08:47 |
| michaelhowden | :P | 08:47 |
| ptressel | Yep! | 08:47 |
| valorie | but when you mentioned sahana, I thought -- ptressel has gotta be Pat | 08:47 |
| ptressel | Wow | 08:47 |
| ptressel | ;-) | 08:47 |
| michaelhowden | Arc - not sure I remember you though… or maybe I just remember you as more than just 3 letters! | 08:47 |
| Arc | i was at the gci session, end of table, spent the time cutting sleves off women's gci 2010 shirts | 08:48 |
| * asmeurer_ remembers that | 08:48 | |
| michaelhowden | Argh - I had to leave before that session :( | 08:48 |
| michaelhowden | What did I miss? | 08:49 |
| Arc | yea people seem to think its strange to recycle surplus ladies shirts like that :-P | 08:49 |
| ptressel | Too bad there was a surplus. :( | 08:50 |
| asmeurer_ | we learned all about code-in | 08:50 |
| ptressel | We got zero female GCI students last time... | 08:50 |
| asmeurer_ | stuff you should hopefully know about already | 08:50 |
| Arc | yea I know. ive been reaching out to middle and highschools in the DC area trying to get more young women and non-white students | 08:51 |
| Arc | DC youth are largely black and hispanic | 08:51 |
| ptressel | Success? | 08:51 |
| Arc | we'll find out. | 08:51 |
| ptressel | Good. | 08:51 |
| Arc | my coach is a 7th grade english teacher, on my team alone we have teachers in 5 schools, and my husband is a branch manager for dc public libraries so networking was easy. | 08:52 |
| ptressel | Nice!!! | 08:52 |
| ptressel | I "work" (==volunteer) for an early-stage startup called earthbongo.com -- social project for good causes. | 08:52 |
| michaelhowden | Arc: which project are you with? | 08:53 |
| Arc | PySoy | 08:53 |
| ptressel | I'm just putting together some projects aimed at drawing in kids to STEM fields. | 08:53 |
| Arc | I'm also Python Software Foundation's org admin. with both sympy and pysoy accepted python didn't have enough interest left to be in gci | 08:53 |
| asmeurer_ | Arc: how many mentors do you guys have? | 08:53 |
| Arc | 5 right now. we have 2 more coming on board. | 08:54 |
| asmeurer_ | ok | 08:54 |
| asmeurer_ | I'm trying to gauge your task count to ours | 08:55 |
| Arc | 76. | 08:55 |
| asmeurer_ | yeah, I saw that above | 08:55 |
| Arc | how many do you have? | 08:55 |
| ptressel | michaelhowden, didn't you say we have about that many? or at least, once the missing projects get added? | 08:56 |
| ptressel | (See how I sneakily brought the topic back round to our problem?) | 08:58 |
| asmeurer_ | 168 | 08:58 |
| asmeurer_ | +/- few, I don't know the exact number | 08:58 |
| asmeurer_ | ok, it's 165 | 08:59 |
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| c_schmitz | hi everyone | 09:02 |
| c_schmitz | still can't list our tasks | 09:02 |
| c_schmitz | takes like forever, and then only list 100 max | 09:03 |
| c_schmitz | Isn't the contest already started? | 09:05 |
| annma | c_schmitz: it seems to have a slight delay | 09:05 |
| asmeurer_ | hey, how did the project with the onion logo get such a big logo on the main page? | 09:06 |
| c_schmitz | annma: ah ok, is that delay voluntary? | 09:06 |
| Arc | asmeurer_: kde i presume? | 09:06 |
| annma | c_schmitz: I think not | 09:07 |
| c_schmitz | what a mess | 09:07 |
| asmeurer_ | can't know for sure. Org pages are still not up. | 09:07 |
| annma | KDE has a K for logo, not an onion!!!! | 09:07 |
| Arc | most students are asleep anyway. | 09:07 |
| annma | Arc: not in Europe | 09:07 |
| Arc | oh. | 09:07 |
| asmeurer_ | Arc: the contest is worldwide | 09:07 |
| annma | the onion is not KDE | 09:07 |
| annma | Arc: I am in Europe as mentor for example | 09:08 |
| Arc | yea sorry its 4am here, forgive my slowness | 09:08 |
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| michaelhowden | Sorry bung internet | 09:11 |
| michaelhowden | Yes - 76 projects - although only 56 now :S | 09:11 |
| asmeurer_ | are you talking about pysoy? | 09:12 |
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| michaelhowden | No - Sahana | 09:16 |
| madrazr | michaelhowden: sorry, I was just distracted | 09:23 |
| madrazr | michaelhowden: yes we met at the summit! | 09:23 |
| madrazr | michaelhowden: and I remembered later that we indeed met at FOSS.in! | 09:24 |
| madrazr | michaelhowden: you have a better memory! | 09:24 |
| madrazr | :D | 09:24 |
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| Mazi|away | hey folks, a short question for all the melange developers out there: I'm a GCi mentor and when trying to view the task list of my organization I always get a "Error retrieving data: please refresh the list or the whole page to try again" error. reloading the page leads to the same error message. | 09:26 |
| Mazi|away | any ideas how I can work around that? | 09:26 |
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| Mazi | thanks! | 09:26 |
| valorie | in my experience, refresh the list or the whole page to try again enough times and it will finally work | 09:26 |
| valorie | :-) | 09:26 |
| Arc | michaelhowden: ill trade you for my current tech problem :-P | 09:27 |
| valorie | also, I poured a small whisky | 09:27 |
| valorie | this also helps | 09:27 |
| Mazi | can anybody explain why the error shows up at all? are the servers too busy? is it a coding problem? | 09:28 |
| michaelhowden | Arc - you mean switch tech issues! | 09:29 |
| michaelhowden | Ha! | 09:29 |
| michaelhowden | :) | 09:29 |
| c_schmitz | at least you can say it is a well-known problem :) | 09:29 |
| michaelhowden | My problem? | 09:29 |
| Arc | michaelhowden: two days ago my netbook started to repeat this weird focus problem ive had with other systems; focus gets locked on a window until i click a menu, then the window i want. even the screensaver cant activate until i come back and click a menu, then it activates and deactivates | 09:29 |
| michaelhowden | Yeah… does that mean that there's an easy solution? | 09:29 |
| michaelhowden | How can I re-invite a mentor? | 09:29 |
| Mazi | does a bug report for the page loading problem ("Error retrieving data: please refresh the list or the whole page to try again") alreadyx exist? | 09:35 |
| SRabbelier | we're well aware | 09:35 |
| SRabbelier | looking into it atm | 09:35 |
| Mazi | k, thanks for your feedback | 09:35 |
| Mazi | SRabbelier, I'm talking about the task list of "Limesurvey" if that helps debugging it | 09:36 |
| SRabbelier | it's happening for all of them :( | 09:36 |
| Mazi | k, then it wasn't me who broke it :-) | 09:37 |
| Arc | refresh #3 worked for me | 09:37 |
| Arc | all tasks show as open | 09:38 |
| SRabbelier | PRINTF DEBUGGING | 09:38 |
| SRabbelier | deploying | 09:41 |
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| c_schmitz | SRabbelier: It seems don't get any notifications, student wrote to me he applied but I did not get any email | 09:47 |
| c_schmitz | what is the deployed release supposed to fix? | 09:48 |
| SRabbelier | c_schmitz: it told me that taggable sucks beyond reason | 09:49 |
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| c_schmitz | task list still does not work, though :/ | 09:49 |
| Arc | homepages are active | 09:50 |
| valorie | odd, I get 100 tasks | 09:54 |
| valorie | we have over 200 | 09:54 |
| valorie | any other reports of this? | 09:54 |
| SRabbelier | deploying now | 09:54 |
| SRabbelier | got rid of the difficulty and type tags | 09:55 |
| SRabbelier | because somehow they're fubared | 09:55 |
| SRabbelier | try now | 09:56 |
| Mazi|away | valorie, same problem here. it says there are 100 tasks but we definitely have more | 09:56 |
| SRabbelier | Mazi|away: which org? | 09:56 |
| valorie | ok, 328 showing now | 09:56 |
| valorie | yay! | 09:56 |
| SRabbelier | phew :) | 09:56 |
| Mazi|away | SRabbelier: Limesurvey | 09:57 |
| SRabbelier | Mazi|away: can you do a full page refresh? | 09:57 |
| * valorie shares the excellent whisky with SRabbelier | 09:58 | |
| MatthewWilkes | excellent whisky? | 09:58 |
| Mazi|away | SRabbelier, looks better now, 295 tasks | 09:58 |
| * SRabbelier nods | 09:58 | |
| SRabbelier | valorie: thanks... although I think I'll have a shower first :P | 09:58 |
| valorie | heh | 09:59 |
| valorie | you deserve both | 09:59 |
| valorie | thank you for all your hard work | 09:59 |
| SRabbelier | np | 09:59 |
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| SRabbelier | michaelhowden, nursix: ping | 10:04 |
| nursix | Yup, here | 10:04 |
| SRabbelier | nursix: I see you're properly registered as a mentor | 10:05 |
| nursix | But I still have nothing on my dashboard | 10:05 |
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| SRabbelier | do you know michaelhowden's link_id? | 10:06 |
| nursix | No, but I guess "michaelhowden" | 10:06 |
| SRabbelier | lol, yup :P | 10:06 |
| nursix | So, if I am registered as a mentor, why does melange refuse to upload my tasks then? | 10:07 |
| nursix | At least that is what michaelhowden says | 10:07 |
| SRabbelier | nursix: cos you're not an mentor for that org yet | 10:07 |
| SRabbelier | I'm doing that now | 10:07 |
| nursix | Aha | 10:08 |
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| nursix | Right - never got an invitation (although I got updates about my invitation) | 10:08 |
| SRabbelier | checking :) | 10:09 |
| SRabbelier | nursix: you're invited both as mentor and as admin | 10:10 |
| SRabbelier | correct? | 10:10 |
| nursix | Seems so, yes. | 10:10 |
| nursix | But I don't see the invitation (no link to accept), just have notifications about /that/ I have been invited | 10:11 |
| SRabbelier | nursix: can you try http://www.google-melange.com/gci/invite/list_user/google/gci2011 ? | 10:11 |
| tpb | Title: Google Accounts (at www.google-melange.com) | 10:11 |
| michaelhowden | SRabbelier: Thanks | 10:11 |
| nursix | Yup, I see two invitations | 10:11 |
| michaelhowden | He doesn't need to be an org admin | 10:11 |
| nursix | What shall I do about this now? | 10:11 |
| michaelhowden | but np if he is | 10:11 |
| SRabbelier | nursix: Wooh, click it! | 10:11 |
| SRabbelier | nursix: click one of them | 10:12 |
| SRabbelier | and accept it | 10:12 |
| nursix | Done | 10:12 |
| nursix | And *now* I have a dashboard | 10:12 |
| nursix | And can see the invitations | 10:12 |
| michaelhowden | SRabbelier: Can I still upload tasks? | 10:12 |
| SRabbelier | FAIL | 10:12 |
| SRabbelier | michaelhowden: yes | 10:12 |
| SRabbelier | michaelhowden: I'll run the MR to accept them when you're done | 10:12 |
| nursix | So you can see the invitation only after you accepted the invitation? | 10:13 |
| SRabbelier | LOL | 10:13 |
| SRabbelier | nursix: apparently | 10:13 |
| SRabbelier | I think I fixed thatn ow | 10:13 |
| nursix | :) good. Seemed to be a little bit difficult a workflow. | 10:14 |
| nursix | Can the remaining tasks now be uploaded? | 10:14 |
| nursix | Oh, it seems they're already there | 10:15 |
| michaelhowden | W00t! nursix added, tasks uploaded | 10:15 |
| nursix | michaelhowden said there were only 58 of 76 tasks, but I see 70 | 10:15 |
| michaelhowden | All is good with the world | 10:15 |
| michaelhowden | Thanks SRabbelier! | 10:15 |
| nursix | :D | 10:15 |
| michaelhowden | Nuwan had 4 tasks | 10:16 |
| SRabbelier | michaelhowden: np | 10:16 |
| SRabbelier | michaelhowden: shall I run the MR then? | 10:16 |
| michaelhowden | SRabbelier: Yes (I presume MR posts the tasks for the students) | 10:18 |
| SRabbelier | michaelhowden: yes | 10:19 |
| SRabbelier | off it goes | 10:19 |
| SRabbelier | michaelhowden: done | 10:21 |
| Arc | ok whats expected to happen when a student requests a task? | 10:28 |
| Arc | does the task show something other than Open? email sent? | 10:28 |
| Arc | is there a way to display all the tasks which a student has requested pending mentor's action? | 10:29 |
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| SRabbelier | Arc: it changes state to "ClaimRequested" | 10:46 |
| SRabbelier | Arc: yes, on your task list | 10:46 |
| Mamarok | shouldn't the mentors get a mail when a task is claimed? | 10:47 |
| ptressel | Just adding a belated Yay! and thanks! ;-) | 10:47 |
| SRabbelier | Mamarok: yes | 10:47 |
| SRabbelier | but they don't yet :P | 10:47 |
| SRabbelier | ptressel: np | 10:47 |
| Mamarok | SRabbelier: that doesn't seem to work though | 10:49 |
| vperic | SRabbelier: Did you fix the performance? Seems to be much better now. | 10:49 |
| SRabbelier | Mamarok: correct, not yet | 10:49 |
| SRabbelier | vperic: yes, I did, by removing the difficulty and type tags | 10:49 |
| SRabbelier | vperic: taggable is made of lame | 10:49 |
| vperic | hehe | 10:50 |
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| vperic | Well, you know, in the spirit of performance.. you could've also dropped the title column.. that's not important at all. :P | 10:50 |
| vperic | Leave just the Org and the time to complete, and call it Google Roulette-in :P | 10:50 |
| Mamarok | SRabbelier: thanks :) | 10:52 |
| SRabbelier | vperic: that doesn't cause any performance problems though :P | 10:52 |
| SRabbelier | vperic: lol | 10:53 |
| Arc | +1 lets have students take tasks at random | 10:59 |
| Arc | dont bother with lists. you get what you get. | 11:00 |
| Arc | :-) | 11:00 |
| vperic | It's how real programmers do it! | 11:00 |
| Arc | exactly. | 11:01 |
| Arc | you do what needs to be done. none of this being picky business | 11:01 |
| vperic | SRabbelier: Would it be too much to ask for for the task list to be sorted.. like alphabetically by title? Or would that kill performance again. | 11:02 |
| SRabbelier | vperic: we can do that | 11:02 |
| SRabbelier | vperic: it's not sorted at all currently I'm guessing? | 11:02 |
| vperic | Nope. | 11:02 |
| vperic | We've got some tasks that repeat. | 11:02 |
| vperic | and it would be good if that was immediately obvious to the student(s) | 11:02 |
| SRabbelier | ah, right | 11:02 |
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| c_schmitz | SRabbelier: I have students who would like to upload a file or link for task finalization but can't do so - is that known? | 11:55 |
| SRabbelier | yeah, looking into it | 11:55 |
| c_schmitz | k | 11:55 |
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| KushKaushik | carols: hi | 12:55 |
| KushKaushik | when will the tasks released | 12:55 |
| KushKaushik | carols: ^^^^^^^^^^^ | 12:55 |
| rafl | judging from the fact that we already have a few tasks claimed by students, i'd say "a few hours ago" | 12:58 |
| SRabbelier | KushKaushik: they are already | 13:03 |
| KushKaushik | yar but i am not able to see them in my browser | 13:03 |
| KushKaushik | SRabbelier: | 13:03 |
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| Arc | 500 Server Error | 14:14 |
| Arc | http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7115350 when I click "Assign" | 14:14 |
| tpb | Title: "Organically Grown" Blender Model - PySoy Cloud Game Engine (at www.google-melange.com) | 14:14 |
| SRabbelier | Arc: checking logs | 14:15 |
| vperic | Because he removed the claim, no? | 14:15 |
| Arc | doesnt look like it | 14:15 |
| vperic | that's what the comments say, though | 14:16 |
| Arc | oh weird timing | 14:16 |
| Arc | i had to hit reload | 14:16 |
| SRabbelier | Arc: lol | 14:17 |
| SRabbelier | nice1 | 14:17 |
| Arc | so much for our first student :-P | 14:18 |
| SRabbelier | lol | 14:18 |
| * SRabbelier offers cookies | 14:18 | |
| Arc | dont tease. i started zero-carb yesterday | 14:18 |
| SRabbelier | lol | 14:18 |
| SRabbelier | carb-free cookies? :-/ | 14:18 |
| Arc | made with chic pea flour and no sugar, we call that lembas bread, and its only edible once you've gone without real bread for awhile | 14:19 |
| * SRabbelier chuckles | 14:21 | |
| SRabbelier | GLWT eh :D | 14:21 |
| Arc | i did it last year, lost 10kg in a month, trick is to focus on that and not how much you want to eat pancakes or oatmeal for breakfast | 14:22 |
| SRabbelier | Arc: oatmeal for breakfast is bad? :( | 14:22 |
| SRabbelier | but I like oatmeal :( | 14:22 |
| Arc | so do i. its all carbs. | 14:23 |
| vperic | Apparently it didn't work so well if you are doing it again, though? ;) | 14:23 |
| Arc | i played the last rugby game of the season saturday, 6 weeks of no-carb dieting, then 6 weeks intensive crossfit training under a US Eagle before spring season. I'm competing in Manchester UK next June in an international tournament | 14:24 |
| Arc | no it worked. i just need to drop more and this diet only works for 4-6 weeks at a time | 14:24 |
| vperic | Yeah, of course. | 14:24 |
| vperic | Just go paleo. :) | 14:24 |
| Arc | americans playing rugby against australian and british teams, on british soil | 14:25 |
| Arc | id rather not have a heart attack thanks :-) | 14:25 |
| vperic | Oh c'mon, what's wrong with paleo! | 14:25 |
| Arc | i am not a caveman, and that is not a caveman diet - its a fantasy caveman diet. | 14:26 |
| Arc | guy on our team did paleo for a few weeks, he had to stop when he got daily heart palpatations and his doctor said he developed a murmur from high cholesterol | 14:27 |
| Arc | no carb just makes you feel grouchy so you need to watch your attitude a lot | 14:27 |
| vperic | I dunno, I don't care about the ideology stuff, but I really do eat a whole lot of meat. | 14:27 |
| vperic | And you need to if you're playing rugby (or lifting). | 14:28 |
| Arc | na thats what hemp is for | 14:28 |
| vperic | :) | 14:28 |
| Arc | hemp protein is way more bioavailable. plus, for playing rugby, you need roughly 85% of your calories from carbs | 14:29 |
| Arc | hence starting no-carb the day after our last game. :-) | 14:29 |
| vperic | Yeah, I guess you're right actually, I'm coming at it from purely a lifting perspective (and you still need tons of carbs for that too). | 14:30 |
| vperic | But anyway, breakfast -> eggs. Never failed me. :) | 14:30 |
| SRabbelier | tasty yoghurt! | 14:31 |
| Arc | yea im lifting right now, and mens pilates, but just to maintain. | 14:32 |
| c_schmitz | how can I switch the task to 'NeedsWork' ? | 15:03 |
| c_schmitz | SRabbelier: ^ ? | 15:03 |
| SRabbelier | c_schmitz: the student has submitted work? | 15:03 |
| c_schmitz | yes | 15:03 |
| c_schmitz | kinda | 15:04 |
| c_schmitz | he managed to switch the task to Status: NeedsReview | 15:04 |
| SRabbelier | hehe, right | 15:04 |
| c_schmitz | and sent the files by email | 15:04 |
| SRabbelier | c_schmitz: which buttons are available? | 15:04 |
| c_schmitz | SRabbelier: mark as closed, unassign, subscribe | 15:05 |
| SRabbelier | theree.... should be a third :) | 15:05 |
| SRabbelier | err, fourth | 15:05 |
| c_schmitz | nope, there isn't :) | 15:05 |
| SRabbelier | c_schmitz: doesn'ts eem possible atm | 15:10 |
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| Arc | SRabbelier: rough eta on email/irc/xmpp/sms/smokesignal notifications for students requesting tasks and other status changes? | 15:45 |
| SRabbelier | Arc: the MR to subscribe has been written | 15:46 |
| SRabbelier | just needs to be run | 15:46 |
| SRabbelier | later tonight hopefully | 15:46 |
| Arc | cool | 15:46 |
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| MikeFromCanmore | Hi, I'm trying to sign up as a mentor at http://www.google-melange.com/gci/profile/mentor/google/gci2011 but when I submit the form, I'm told "Your age does not allow you to participate in the program." Is this a known issue? Also, submitting the form redirects me to http://www.google-melange.com/gci/profile/google/gci2011, which looks like the student sign-up form :\ | 15:51 |
| tpb | Title: Google Accounts (at www.google-melange.com) | 15:51 |
| * MikeFromCanmore patpat tpb | 15:51 | |
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| joelberger | Hi GCI, I'm trying to register as a mentor and I'm getting "Sorry, we could not save your data. Please fix the errors mentioned below... Your age does not allow you to participate in the program. | 15:53 |
| joelberger | I'm 28, but I even tried changing the date to something in the 60s and it still didn't go | 15:54 |
| joelberger | any thoughts | 15:54 |
| SRabbelier | MikeFromCanmore: clear your cookies, somehow you got hit by the age verification | 15:54 |
| SRabbelier | ah | 15:54 |
| SRabbelier | nvm | 15:54 |
| joelberger | I'll give that a go | 15:54 |
| SRabbelier | I know the problem | 15:54 |
| SRabbelier | will fix | 15:54 |
| joelberger | ok holding | 15:54 |
| joelberger | while I'm here, can I ask what the drop-down with 'n-color.jpg' is for, we have been having guesses over at irc.perl.org #gci | 15:57 |
| SRabbelier | joelberger: avatar :D | 15:58 |
| MikeFromCanmore | Shouldn't it have a selector where you can see the options? Or at least a description. | 15:59 |
| * MikeFromCanmore nominates this for a GCI task :P | 15:59 | |
| SRabbelier | deploying fix -> joelberger | 16:00 |
| SRabbelier | MikeFromCanmore: yes, Akeda was working on that, but I don't think he finished it yet | 16:00 |
| rafl | please don't deploy fixes onto joelberger. i like him just the way he is. | 16:00 |
| joelberger | thanks rafl, it means alot | 16:00 |
| SRabbelier | rafl: too late :( | 16:01 |
| joelberger | should I dump the cookies too? | 16:02 |
| joelberger | I guess it can't hurt | 16:02 |
| SRabbelier | joelberger: no there's no need | 16:06 |
| joelberger | oh well, anyway, registration worked thanks | 16:07 |
| joelberger | :) | 16:07 |
| SRabbelier | cool | 16:08 |
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| dreimark | sandroandrade: can i see claim requests in my dashboard | 17:12 |
| dreimark | sorry | 17:12 |
| dreimark | @SRabbelier | 17:12 |
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| dreimark | SRabbelier: how can i subscribe all open tasks without opening each ? | 17:48 |
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| c_schmitz | dreimark: you can't | 17:53 |
| Arc | does the subscription do anything right now? | 18:07 |
| asmeurer | can someone explain what "Reopened" means? | 18:10 |
| SRabbelier | asmeurer: see rules | 18:22 |
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| rafl | so, is downloading results uploaded by students something that's not actually implemented yet? | 18:24 |
| darthdweller | @SRabbelier , i get an error saying that download broken when i try to upload my work | 18:25 |
| SRabbelier | yeah we're aware of the issue and are investigating | 18:25 |
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| variable | tpb: :) | 23:05 |
| madrazr | variable: thats our bot :) | 23:05 |
| variable | madrazr: yeah. It gives me friendly warnings about my ident | 23:06 |
| madrazr | variable: and your password too? :P | 23:06 |
| variable | my password is ****** | 23:06 |
| madrazr | variable: ha ha, I can read that | 23:06 |
| madrazr | :D | 23:06 |
| variable | see, if you type your password into IRC it converts it into stars for everyone esle | 23:06 |
| variable | try it! | 23:06 |
| madrazr | I hope you have read the famous bash.org hunter2 snippet? :P | 23:06 |
| variable | madrazr: yeah, that is where I got this from | 23:07 |
| madrazr | variable: sure ****** | 23:07 |
| madrazr | thats my password | 23:07 |
| madrazr | :D | 23:07 |
| variable | madrazr: I irc using telnet as root! | 23:07 |
| variable | (ctcp version me :) ) | 23:07 |
| madrazr | variable: :) | 23:07 |
| * gevaerts recommends more advanced clients like his own :) | 23:08 | |
| variable | gevaerts: netcat ? | 23:08 |
| * variable read about that somewhere | 23:08 | |
| gevaerts | variable: no. I don't want to type in /ctcp version replies by hand :) | 23:09 |
| variable | gevaerts: awesome ! | 23:09 |
| * variable likes your version | 23:09 | |
| gevaerts | :) | 23:10 |
| variable | gevaerts: %curl -I localhost:443 | 23:10 |
| variable | SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.8_hpn13v11 ENIAC-2.0 | 23:10 |
| gevaerts | I'm reasonably sure you can't do public key cryptography on eniac and have it negotiate keys in a single decade | 23:11 |
| variable | gevaerts: there we go: security! it will take at least a decade to hack into my computer | 23:12 |
| gevaerts | I predict that nobody will even bother! :) | 23:13 |
| variable | :-() | 23:13 |
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