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| jpf_admin | madrazr: Actually I only see a subset of the mentors. It is related to another problem. There are some requests that I accepted for mentors but they don't show up in the list of the mentors on the main page (or the drop down) | 00:01 |
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| madrazr | jpf_admin: when did you accept? | 00:02 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: one question though | 00:02 |
| jpf_admin | it was on the first day they could apply | 00:02 |
| jpf_admin | i forget the date | 00:02 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: do you see all the mentors in the drop down who are listed in your dashboard? | 00:02 |
| jpf_admin | let me double check | 00:03 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: sure | 00:03 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: also, can you see the status of those requests? | 00:03 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: it will be on your dashboard as well | 00:03 |
| jpf_admin | the status of the request is "The request has been accepted" | 00:03 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: and those mentors still don't appear? | 00:03 |
| jpf_admin | that is correct | 00:04 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: how many mentors do you have totally in your org? (including the ones you accepted and not showing up?) | 00:04 |
| jpf_admin | all the mentors on the dashboard are in the drop down | 00:04 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: Ok | 00:04 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: can you please give me the URL of those requests? | 00:04 |
| jpf_admin | sure | 00:05 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: that have been accepted but mentors not being added | 00:05 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: just give me 1 or 2 | 00:05 |
| jpf_admin | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/request/google/gsoc2011/6458206 | 00:05 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8h9s> (at www.google-melange.com) | 00:05 |
| jpf_admin | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/request/google/gsoc2011/6458207 | 00:05 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8h9t> (at www.google-melange.com) | 00:05 |
| jpf_admin | I have four accepted but missing from dashboard mentors | 00:06 |
| jpf_admin | we had 15 requests; I accepted 14; rejected one; 4 don't show up | 00:07 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: you mean you had 20 totally? | 00:08 |
| jpf_admin | No 15 total | 00:08 |
| jpf_admin | requests that is | 00:08 |
| jpf_admin | There are 4 from the 15 that don't show up as members of my organization | 00:09 |
| jpf_admin | Actually 5 are missing | 00:09 |
| madrazr | Ok | 00:11 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: these are the URLs of those requests you accepted and the mentors don't show up right? | 00:11 |
| madrazr | those 2 URLs? | 00:11 |
| jpf_admin | yes | 00:12 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: Ok | 00:12 |
| jpf_admin | I can provide you the URLs for others too if you want | 00:12 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: looks like the requests are successfully completed | 00:12 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: not necessary | 00:12 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: just wondering why things have failed | 00:12 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: the requests have successfully completed | 00:12 |
| jpf_admin | The only thing different was these were accepted on the first day when the requests could be made and accepted | 00:12 |
| jpf_admin | I remember cause I accepted these in the evening. | 00:13 |
| jpf_admin | All the requests I accepted after that came up fine. | 00:14 |
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| madrazr | jpf_admin: Oh! | 00:17 |
| madrazr | :( | 00:17 |
| jpf_admin | you found the problem? | 00:17 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: not really | 00:18 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: I just suspect something | 00:18 |
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| madrazr | jpf_admin: I am just wondering if appengine datastore write for some reason and it went unnoticed | 00:23 |
| jpf_admin | madrazr: how could we reset it? | 00:24 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: can you please send an email to Sverre with the link IDs of all the mentors whom you accepted and but are not showing up as mentors? | 00:24 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: do you know Sverre's email ID? | 00:24 |
| jpf_admin | it must be in the mentors list email. let me check | 00:25 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: sure | 00:25 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: or I can PM you | 00:25 |
| jpf_admin | I found it. Can I CC you in it? | 00:26 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: sure | 00:29 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: can I PM you my email address? | 00:29 |
| jpf_admin | yes please | 00:29 |
| jpf_admin | madrazr: all requests are on march 27th | 00:33 |
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| madrazr | jpf_admin: I am sorry, for some reason I lost the connection | 00:35 |
| jpf_admin | sticky interwebs | 00:35 |
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| madrazr | jpf_admin: yeah and with sucky bandwidth in these parts of the world, it is much painful | 00:36 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: btw you guys put a different logo? | 00:37 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: this one looks better than the previous one :) | 00:37 |
| jpf_admin | yes we did. | 00:37 |
| jpf_admin | madrazr: thanks! | 00:37 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: YW :) | 00:38 |
| jpf_admin | the previous had a dimension issue ;) | 00:38 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: it was way too long :P | 00:38 |
| jpf_admin | yup | 00:38 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: I will hit the sack now | 00:39 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: it is 6:10AM here :P | 00:39 |
| jpf_admin | You are in India? | 00:39 |
| madrazr | need to get some sleep before it gets too bright and hot :) | 00:39 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: yeah, I am :) | 00:39 |
| jpf_admin | cool, good nite, or morning :) | 00:40 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: thanks :) | 00:40 |
| madrazr | jpf_admin: see you, have a good evening | 00:40 |
| madrazr | bye | 00:40 |
| jpf_admin | bye | 00:40 |
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| shayan | Hey | 04:18 |
| shayan | Any devs around? | 04:19 |
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| slingshot316 | http://blog.haydon.id.au/2008/09/10-finishing-code-sharing-application.html | 07:54 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8h-f> (at blog.haydon.id.au) | 07:54 |
| slingshot316 | sorry my bad, that was for my friend :( | 07:54 |
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| Alexia_Death | Hi, Im having problems with melange. | 10:58 |
| Alexia_Death | Im a secondary admin for my project and also plan to be a mentor. | 10:58 |
| Alexia_Death | Primary admin sent me a mentor invite, but I cant accept it:( | 10:58 |
| Alexia_Death | All Im getting is this: You cannot be a mentor for GNU Image Manipulation Program to access this page. | 10:59 |
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| madrazr | Alexia_Death: Hi | 13:47 |
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| madrazr | Alexia_Death: all the org admins are by default Mentors | 13:50 |
| madrazr | Alexia_Death: there need not be a special invite to be a mentor for an org for org admins | 13:50 |
| madrazr | Alexia_Death: is there some place where you cannot be listed along with the mentors? | 13:50 |
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| Talad | Hi | 14:13 |
| Talad | anyone had issues with removal of proposals? | 14:13 |
| Talad | a student submitted a duplicate and he wants to remove it | 14:13 |
| Talad | he clicked on withdraw, but doesn't go away | 14:14 |
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| Alexia_Death | madrazr: I found that out yes, but now I have a pending invite I cant accept. Is it safe to reject it? Or would that cancel my default status? | 14:26 |
| madrazr | Alexia_Death: that leaves me wondering how the other admin was even able to send you an invite | 14:27 |
| madrazr | Alexia_Death: I would ask you to leave that invite as is | 14:27 |
| madrazr | Alexia_Death: it doesn't change anything for you | 14:27 |
| Alexia_Death | madrazr: Ok. It just feels like a bug:) | 14:27 |
| madrazr | Alexia_Death: it was a bug in sending the invite | 14:28 |
| madrazr | Alexia_Death: it is at least fixed the latest code I have (may not be in the release yet) | 14:28 |
| madrazr | Alexia_Death: I cannot send a mentor invite to an org admin | 14:28 |
| Alexia_Death | ok | 14:28 |
| madrazr | Alexia_Death: was the invitation sent yesterday? If so I see that the fix was made late yesterday and would have come in the release we made later | 14:33 |
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| Alexia_Death | madrazr: that invite was sent 3 days ago, on 30th of march. | 15:03 |
| madrazr | Alexia_Death: ah! that explains | 15:06 |
| madrazr | Alexia_Death: but yeah, all Org Admins are by default mentors | 15:06 |
| madrazr | Alexia_Death: you need not become a mentor explicitly | 15:06 |
| Alexia_Death | great:) This was not the case previously I think... | 15:07 |
| madrazr | Alexia_Death: if there is some action that you as an org admin cannot do that mentors can, please let us know | 15:07 |
| madrazr | we will fix them | 15:07 |
| Alexia_Death | ok:) | 15:07 |
| madrazr | Alexia_Death: it was almost the case, we did not maintain consistency (and also we let the admins to become mentors too but let org admins do all the tasks that mentors could do) | 15:08 |
| madrazr | Alexia_Death: we are trying to eliminate such inconsistencies with our new approach | 15:08 |
| Alexia_Death | Cool :) | 15:08 |
| madrazr | Alexia_Death: :) | 15:09 |
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| shayan | Hi | 15:16 |
| shayan | I would like to participate in gsoc | 15:17 |
| shayan | I am interested in http://code.google.com/p/soc/wiki/GSoC2011Ideas#Export_to_Google_Docs | 15:18 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8hC8> (at code.google.com) | 15:19 |
| shayan | Can you give me directions? | 15:19 |
| shayan | Ah, seems there's lot of competition for that one | 15:22 |
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| kronos | SRabbelier hello .. ive completed the university autocomplete feature and send the patch to the mailing list. Can u please review the patch ? | 16:57 |
| SRabbelier | kronos: yeah, I saw the mail | 16:57 |
| SRabbelier | kronos: it's in my inbox | 16:57 |
| kronos | SRabbelier, thanks. | 16:58 |
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| feroze | I was looking at the GSOC ideas list | 17:40 |
| feroze | And i have some questions regarding Google Docs | 17:41 |
| feroze | Expor to Google Docs project | 17:41 |
| feroze | Is Sverre/Mario/Daniel online ? | 17:41 |
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| madrazr | feroze: yes SRabbelier is one of them :) | 18:10 |
| SRabbelier | feroze: hi | 18:10 |
| madrazr | you can guess who among the 3 I guess :P | 18:10 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: can you take this though? | 18:10 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: I'm up to my elbows in notifications | 18:10 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: sure | 18:10 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: much oblidged | 18:11 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: NP at all | 18:11 |
| madrazr | feroze: what would you like to know about that idea? | 18:11 |
| feroze | madrazr: I'm interested in the "Export to Google Docs" project | 18:13 |
| madrazr | feroze: great to know | 18:13 |
| feroze | I have some experience with gdata | 18:13 |
| feroze | docs was somewhat documented but I tried to get finance to fetch me stock prices.. In vain | 18:13 |
| feroze | anyway.. I want to know what this prt involves | 18:14 |
| feroze | *project | 18:14 |
| feroze | madrazr: what does the project involve ? I'm familiar with Django | 18:19 |
| feroze | You want to export the documents to Google ADoc | 18:19 |
| feroze | Should the formatting be changed ? | 18:19 |
| madrazr | feroze: first and foremost thing we need to concentrate in this project is to be able to export Melange's lists to Google Spreadsheets | 18:20 |
| feroze | What do you mean by Google Melange's list ? | 18:22 |
| feroze | the Organisation/ prvious year students list ? | 18:22 |
| feroze | madrazr? | 18:25 |
| feroze | Are you Madhu Sudan ? | 18:26 |
| feroze | Tamilian ? | 18:26 |
| madrazr | feroze: one min, on call | 18:31 |
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| madrazr | feroze: sorry | 18:45 |
| madrazr | feroze: no race related questions here please :P | 18:46 |
| madrazr | feroze: and my name is not Madhu Sudan (there is no such Indian name btw). My name is Madhusudan | 18:46 |
| madrazr | :) | 18:46 |
| madrazr | feroze: exactly, by list, I mean the those grids you see all over Melange | 18:47 |
| madrazr | feroze: the participating orgs list, the lists on the dashboard, etc | 18:47 |
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| madrazr | feroze: I need to go and have some food. I will be away for a while. Probably I will also join the celebrations. So see you in half an hour or more | 18:52 |
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| madrazr | feroze: back | 19:42 |
| kronos | madrazr, I was planning to apply to melange for gsoc. I found the idea on Google Code-In module rewrite interesting to work on. | 20:06 |
| madrazr | kronos: cool! | 20:06 |
| kronos | I have started browsing through melange code and have also submitter a patch(to be reviewed) for university name autocomplete to Sverre and mailing list. | 20:07 |
| kronos | madrazr, So could you suggest me what should i do next ? | 20:08 |
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| madrazr | kronos: have you taken a look at the GCI module? | 20:14 |
| madrazr | kronos: if not please do that, also please take a look at the wiki documents related to GCI | 20:14 |
| kronos | madrazr, no. | 20:14 |
| madrazr | kronos: it has the design and implementation document | 20:14 |
| kronos | madrazr, ok.. will do that. | 20:14 |
| madrazr | kronos: Task workflow document and so on. | 20:14 |
| madrazr | kronos: read them | 20:14 |
| madrazr | kronos: also there is one another student who is try to redesign the task public view | 20:15 |
| madrazr | kronos: if you look at the code in the soc.modules.gci.views.models.task.View there is a method called def public | 20:15 |
| madrazr | he is working on that | 20:15 |
| madrazr | kronos: it will be nice if you can take up on another view and convert it to our new views infrastructure | 20:16 |
| madrazr | *one another view | 20:16 |
| kronos | madrazr, ok. i'll read the documentation and get back. | 20:16 |
| madrazr | kronos: sure | 20:16 |
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| kronos | madrazr, I read the GCI User Manual. couldnt find any other related documents. | 20:55 |
| madrazr | kronos: there are at least 2 other documents | 20:56 |
| madrazr | kronos: let me get the links for you | 20:56 |
| madrazr | kronos: and sorry, I forgot to tell you that GCI had a predecessor which Google used to call as GHOP | 20:57 |
| madrazr | kronos: the docs are here | 20:57 |
| madrazr | http://code.google.com/p/soc/wiki/GHOP | 20:57 |
| tpb | Title: GHOP - soc - Design/discussion for GHOP - SoC (Spice of Creation) - Google Project Hosting (at code.google.com) | 20:57 |
| madrazr | http://code.google.com/p/soc/wiki/GHOPImplementationDesign | 20:57 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8hFs> (at code.google.com) | 20:57 |
| madrazr | http://code.google.com/p/soc/wiki/For_GHOP_20 | 20:57 |
| tpb | Title: For_GHOP_20 - soc - GHOP features which we are 99% sure we do not want in the first Melange based GHOP - SoC (Spice of Creation) - Google Project Hosting (at code.google.com) | 20:57 |
| madrazr | kronos: http://code.google.com/p/soc/wiki/LifeOfaGhopTask | 20:57 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8hFt> (at code.google.com) | 20:57 |
| kronos | madrazr, thanks.. will look at them. | 20:58 |
| madrazr | kronos: those 4 document should help you | 20:58 |
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| cognificent_ | Hi, is anyone around? | 21:06 |
| cognificent_ | I know it's a little late in the game, but I wanted to express an interest in applying for gsoc (export to google docs) | 21:07 |
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| reality | hi, I just submitted my gsoc application and it came out white on black. apparently this is a bug | 21:09 |
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| eoc | what is a bug? what did you do? what did you expect? what happened? | 21:17 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: hi, i wanted to implement templating student accept/reject emails, but this feature already available | 21:48 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: i'm little confused about what to implement? | 21:49 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: it is? | 21:49 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: oh, what I meant was that it should use a google doc for import | 21:50 |
| SRabbelier | errr | 21:50 |
| SRabbelier | not google doc :P | 21:50 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: should use a melange document for it's text | 21:50 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: not a static template | 21:50 |
| SRabbelier | reality: screenshot please | 21:52 |
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| orcuna | SRabbelier: how to associate e-mail view with the document? | 21:57 |
| reality | SRabbelier: http://i.imgur.com/IPNio.png | 21:57 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: a setting in the program profile | 21:57 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: see ex. "contact_page" | 21:57 |
| SRabbelier | reality: nice | 21:57 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: whatp age? | 21:57 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: **what page? | 21:57 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: also, what program did you paste from? | 21:58 |
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| orcuna | SRabbelier: sorry, did you asked to me? | 22:01 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: I prefixed my question with your nick didn't I? :P | 22:01 |
| SRabbelier | oh | 22:01 |
| SRabbelier | hahahaha | 22:01 |
| orcuna | :) | 22:01 |
| SRabbelier | sorry about that :P | 22:01 |
| SRabbelier | reality: ^^^ | 22:01 |
| reality | ohh | 22:01 |
| SRabbelier | the "what page? also what program did you pasge from" was for reality | 22:01 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: the rest was to you | 22:02 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: yes, let me assure i get it | 22:02 |
| reality | SRabbelier: I pasted it from vim, I wrote it in plain text. this is the page: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2011/reality/1 | 22:02 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8hGX> (at www.google-melange.com) | 22:03 |
| SRabbelier | reality: let me guess, your vim is set to white text on a black background? | 22:03 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: program profile page will have a selection "accept email" that lists all documents, and program admin will select one of them | 22:03 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: it should use the same autocomplete functionality we have at the moment | 22:04 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: sure | 22:04 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: so in the html call the autocompleter thingy | 22:04 |
| reality | SRabbelier: I've got set background=dark, yes. Why would it copy formatting information?? | 22:04 |
| SRabbelier | reality: because that's how vim is exporting it matey | 22:04 |
| SRabbelier | :P | 22:04 |
| reality | naughty vim | 22:05 |
| SRabbelier | reality: it's not like TinyMCE is reaching into your editor and stealing that information ;) | 22:05 |
| reality | SRabbelier: thanks for the explanation anyway :) | 22:05 |
| SRabbelier | reality: you can either click the 'html' button in tinymce | 22:05 |
| SRabbelier | reality: and fix the markup yourself | 22:05 |
| SRabbelier | reality: or fix your editor ;) | 22:05 |
| reality | at least it makes my application, uh, stand out | 22:05 |
| reality | hmm there doesn't seem to be anything in the html suggesting it should be this colour | 22:06 |
| reality | and in the editor itself it's black on white | 22:07 |
| SRabbelier | reality: you pressed the html button? | 22:07 |
| reality | yes | 22:07 |
| SRabbelier | reality: ah | 22:08 |
| SRabbelier | reality: it's the <pre> | 22:08 |
| reality | oh | 22:09 |
| SRabbelier | reality: our css says that pre should look like that apparently | 22:09 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: i get it , after i finish this work i will try to prepare my proposal | 22:10 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: cool | 22:10 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: thanks for help | 22:10 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: np | 22:10 |
| reality | SRabbelier: hmm, might just keep it like that. all the formatting messes up if I remove it.. | 22:10 |
| SRabbelier | reality: we should really fix our css not to leak, but not sure how to xD | 22:12 |
| reality | well I would have thought the css would have a rule like pre.wheremelangeusesit { properties } and leave the root one alone | 22:13 |
| SRabbelier | reality: it does | 22:15 |
| SRabbelier | reality: except your proposal is inside wheremelangeusesit | 22:15 |
| SRabbelier | reality: I'm asking EchoDitto for some help with this | 22:16 |
| SRabbelier | reality: if you keep your proposal the way it is they can see what I mean :P | 22:16 |
| reality | ok will do | 22:17 |
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| orcuna | SRabbelier: i guess "app.soc.models.program.Program" is not an expando model | 22:44 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: so how new fields for program will be created?? | 22:45 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: add them to soc.models.program manually | 22:48 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: hmm, ok but how new attributes are behaved when they're not expando class? | 22:53 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: if they're not set you eman? | 22:53 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: as long as you don't make them required they're just None | 22:53 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: ok, i thought you can not set a new class attribute unless it's not expando | 22:55 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: hah, that would suck | 22:55 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: we do it all the time | 22:55 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: in fact | 22:55 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: http://code.google.com/p/soc/source/detail?r=76dcae472153754f98e0bf1fb90998bf51079fdf | 22:55 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8hHK> (at code.google.com) | 22:55 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: just did | 22:55 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: yes :) so gae documentation is tricky then http://code.google.com/intl/en/appengine/docs/python/datastore/expandoclass.html | 22:57 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8hHM> (at code.google.com) | 22:57 |
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| orcuna | hmm | 22:57 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: expando allows you to add new fields on the fly | 22:57 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: e.g., at run time | 22:57 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: we're just adding fields at compile time | 22:57 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: yes i got it wrong | 22:57 |
| Talad|Away | Hi SRabbelier, is there a place where I can see the source of melange, and in particular of the rotating logos? | 23:28 |
| Talad|Away | I would like to get an idea of how it works | 23:28 |
| SRabbelier | Talad|Away: no, it's proprietary | 23:28 |
| SRabbelier | oh wait | 23:28 |
| SRabbelier | april fools was yesterday :) | 23:28 |
| Talad|Away | I followed the logos for about 2 days, but our logo never shown | 23:28 |
| * SRabbelier is looking up the file | 23:28 | |
| Talad|Away | and there are logos like OpenMRS which are there very often | 23:29 |
| SRabbelier | Talad|Away: what org? | 23:29 |
| Talad|Away | I understand it's just a small thing | 23:29 |
| Talad|Away | atomic blue | 23:29 |
| SRabbelier | Talad|Away: link_id? | 23:29 |
| SRabbelier | Talad|Away: we might have to add a sort column or such | 23:29 |
| Talad|Away | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2011/atomicblue | 23:29 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8hHb> (at www.google-melange.com) | 23:29 |
| SRabbelier | Talad|Away: http://code.google.com/p/soc/source/browse/app/soc/modules/gsoc/views/homepage.py#86 | 23:29 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8hHc> (at code.google.com) | 23:30 |
| SRabbelier | Talad|Away: http://code.google.com/p/soc/source/browse/app/soc/modules/gsoc/logic/models/organization.py#129 | 23:31 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8hHf> (at code.google.com) | 23:31 |
| Talad|Away | mmm... ok, I cannot read it | 23:32 |
| Talad|Away | I don't know python too much | 23:32 |
| Talad|Away | anyway I was expecting just an array and cycling on it every 5 | 23:33 |
| Talad|Away | while it seems way more complex than that in the code | 23:33 |
| Talad|Away | I guess I will live as it is :) | 23:33 |
| SRabbelier | Talad|Away: hehe, well, yeah, that would be way to expensive :) | 23:34 |
| SRabbelier | **too | 23:34 |
| SRabbelier | well, not way | 23:34 |
| SRabbelier | but you get the idea | 23:34 |
| Talad|Away | an array of 175 elements? | 23:34 |
| SRabbelier | Talad|Away: fetching it | 23:34 |
| Talad|Away | I don't think it's very expensive | 23:34 |
| SRabbelier | Talad|Away: takes about a second on appengine | 23:34 |
| Talad|Away | ok | 23:35 |
| SRabbelier | Talad|Away: time it takes to fetch n entities is O(n) | 23:35 |
| Talad|Away | well, I'm 90% sure the current code is wrong anyway :) | 23:35 |
| SRabbelier | Talad|Away: could be the lack of a sort order, but that shouldn't affect what is being shown | 23:35 |
| SRabbelier | Talad|Away: all that could do is display it out of order | 23:35 |
| Talad|Away | the order is quite random | 23:35 |
| Talad|Away | and I've seen many orgs appearing multiple times in one day | 23:36 |
| Talad|Away | but maybe it's just me being picky | 23:36 |
| gevaerts | SRabbelier: could the lack of explicit ordering cause orgs that update their data to jump in the list? | 23:36 |
| Talad|Away | let's say I wanted to have at least our org shown one time :) | 23:36 |
| SRabbelier | gevaerts: mhhh, it shouldn't, let me double check the docs | 23:36 |
| SRabbelier | http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/queries.html#Queries_on_Keys | 23:38 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8hHl> (at code.google.com) | 23:38 |
| SRabbelier | gevaerts: ". If the results for a query change between uses of a cursor, the query notices only changes that occur in results after the curso" | 23:39 |
| gevaerts | SRabbelier: do you keep one cursor all day? | 23:39 |
| SRabbelier | gevaerts: we advance the cursor every 30m | 23:40 |
| gevaerts | ok | 23:40 |
| gevaerts | That should be fine then I'd expect | 23:40 |
| SRabbelier | gevaerts: where with advance I mean, we throw away the old one, and get a new one after fetching new entities | 23:40 |
| gevaerts | hm | 23:40 |
| gevaerts | I'm not sure if I understand what you mean by that | 23:42 |
| * gevaerts tries to figure it out from the source | 23:42 | |
| SRabbelier | gevaerts: like the doc says | 23:43 |
| SRabbelier | gevaerts: see the sample code in Cursors and Data Updates | 23:43 |
| SRabbelier | hmm, sample code is not that great | 23:43 |
| SRabbelier | basically | 23:43 |
| SRabbelier | gevaerts: we construct the query, the first time we fetch the first 5 orgs | 23:44 |
| gevaerts | yes | 23:44 |
| SRabbelier | gevaerts: after fetching, we call the cursor method | 23:44 |
| SRabbelier | gevaerts: we store the cursor with the entities in memcache | 23:44 |
| gevaerts | If I read your code right, you keep the same cursor around all the time, right? | 23:44 |
| gevaerts | hrm | 23:44 |
| SRabbelier | gevaerts: then the next time | 23:45 |
| * gevaerts wishes he knew python... | 23:45 | |
| SRabbelier | gevaerts: we get the cursor, start a new query, apply the cursor, fetch the results | 23:45 |
| gevaerts | yes | 23:45 |
| SRabbelier | gevaerts: after fetching, we get a new cursur by calling cursor on the query | 23:45 |
| gevaerts | Why get a new cursor? | 23:45 |
| SRabbelier | gevaerts: there's no way to 'move' the existing one :) | 23:45 |
| SRabbelier | gevaerts: **no other way | 23:45 |
| SRabbelier | gevaerts: the way we do it is the idiomatic way to advance a cursor | 23:46 |
| gevaerts | strange | 23:48 |
| SRabbelier | gevaerts: it's just "where did I leave off in this query" | 23:49 |
| SRabbelier | gevaerts: so after fetching you get a new "where did I leave off" | 23:49 |
| SRabbelier | gevaerts: you could keep using the same cursor to point at the same position if you wanted | 23:49 |
| gevaerts | I can't say I understand this, but I'm going to assume that you've been using appengine before today :) | 23:49 |
| SRabbelier | gevaerts: hehe, ok :P | 23:50 |
| SRabbelier | gevaerts: Query Ordering when Sort Order Is UnspecifiedWhen a query does not specify an order, the datastore returns the results in the order of retrieval. As we make changes to the datastore implementation, the order of results in an unordered query may change as well. Therefore, if you require a specific sort ordering for your query results, be sure to specify it in the query. If you don't specify a sort order, the ordering of results is undefined | 23:53 |
| SRabbelier | Talad|Away: ^ | 23:53 |
| SRabbelier | so unless they change the implementation multiple times a day, the missing sort order shouldn't be a problem ;) | 23:53 |
| Talad|Away | ok, thanks for checking | 23:54 |
| gevaerts | Talad|Away: do you have logs from the webserver that serves the logo? That should give conclusive answers | 23:55 |
| Talad|Away | gevaerts: good tip, but that logo is on a machine I do not have direct access to | 23:56 |
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| Talad|Away | I could probably move it to another machine | 23:56 |
| * SRabbelier sets up a cron job to hit Talad|Away's organization's logo every 5 minutes | 23:57 | |
| Talad|Away | but should be from the right machine ;) | 23:58 |
| gevaerts | Well, mainly with the right referer header | 23:58 |
| * SRabbelier knows how to fake referrer headers | 23:59 | |
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