Monday, 2011-03-28

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Talad	yes	00:00
Talad	SRabbelier	00:01
SRabbelier	Talad: I'm deploying a fix now, so if you could test it in 40 seconds or so that'd be great	00:02
Talad	sure	00:02
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SRabbelier	Talad: plesae try now from http://2-0-20110327-p1-ninja.socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/dashboard/google/gsoc2011	00:03
tpb	<http://ln-s.net/8fCK> (at 2-0-20110327-p1-ninja.socghop.appspot.com)	00:03
Talad	ok, seems it worked	00:04
Talad	the request is accepted	00:04
Talad	and the mentor is listed in the list below	00:04
Talad	the requests remains there as trace	00:04
* SRabbelier dances		00:05
Talad	which I think it's the supposed behaviour	00:05
SRabbelier	Talad: we'll auto-hide completed requests later	00:05
SRabbelier	Talad: yeah	00:05
SRabbelier	Talad: which request did you accept just now?	00:05
Talad	the only one present	00:05
Talad	acraig	00:05
SRabbelier	Talad: andrewcraig.engr@?	00:05
Talad	yes	00:05
Talad	the one I said it worked	00:06
SRabbelier	Talad: ok, I'll exclude him from the "oops, we messed up" email	00:06
Talad	ok	00:06
Talad	can I test it on the real app now?	00:07
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SRabbelier	oops	00:07
SRabbelier	ctrl+w fail	00:07
SRabbelier	Talad: That was on the real app btw	00:07
SRabbelier	Talad: also	00:08
Talad	ah ok	00:08
Talad	I thought it was a dev server	00:08
SRabbelier	can you confirm that on http://2-0-20110327-p1-ninja.socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/dashboard/google/gsoc2011 all org admins are now also mentors?	00:08
tpb	<http://ln-s.net/8fCK> (at 2-0-20110327-p1-ninja.socghop.appspot.com)	00:08
SRabbelier	Talad: nope, just a non-default version	00:08
Talad	yes, confirmed	00:09
SRabbelier	Talad: allright, switching the default then	00:09
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Talad	SRabbelier: ok, I see it on default now	00:15
Talad	I guess the test is done	00:16
Talad	I go!	00:16
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Talad\|ZzZ	see you	00:16
SRabbelier	Talad\|ZzZ: thanks for helping!	00:16
Talad\|ZzZ	yw	00:16
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anth_x	on mentor request pages, "No Page Name Present, Bug a Developer!". this is me following instructions. :-)	00:21
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SRabbelier	anth_x: grin	00:23
nrungta	I keep getting an error when I was updating the public irc channel: Enter a valid URL. I thought that it was a valid one (irc://irc.freenode.net/jpf)	00:25
SRabbelier	nrungta: huh	00:26
SRabbelier	nrungta: I suppose Django doesn't think irc:// is valid	00:26
SRabbelier	darn	00:26
nrungta	let me take it off and see whether it takes it	00:26
SRabbelier	both mailto: and irc://	00:26
SRabbelier	nrungta: it will, but the on-page rendering will be crappy	00:27
nrungta	even after I dropped the irc:// it keeps giving me the Enter a valid URL error	00:27
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nrungta	that is so bizzare	00:27
SRabbelier	nrungta: because it's not a url, doesn't start with http://	00:27
SRabbelier	eh, I'll disable cleaning on those fields for now	00:27
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SRabbelier	so you can enter whatever you want	00:28
SRabbelier	iandees_: I'm disabling validation for that field	00:28
SRabbelier	iandees_: so you'll be able to enter whatever you want	00:29
scorche	SRabbelier: i will leave the application template like that unless you tell me otherwise in the hopes that it might simplify testing for you ;)	00:29
SRabbelier	iandees_: including XSS and whatnot :P	00:29
ArthurLiu	SRabbelier: I'd like to have the onegoogle bar or similar back, is this possible? most notably I'd like to have the signon/logout link at the top right like before	00:29
SRabbelier	iandees_: but you guys are org admins	00:29
ArthurLiu	if possible, I'll open a bug, etc	00:29
SRabbelier	nrungta, iandees_: try now	00:29
* iandees_ adds XSS to get all mentors to sign up to his organization.		00:30
* iandees_ laughs maniacally!		00:30
iandees_	:)	00:30
scorche	naw - we want students - not mentors ;)	00:30
gevaerts	We want new org admins!	00:31
SRabbelier	yeah, you're orgs though, so we trust you to not do that	00:31
* gevaerts runs		00:31
nrungta	the power of turning off validation succeeds!!	00:31
iandees_	tada, works great	00:31
gevaerts	scorche: can we put the ideas page on gopher next year to see if melange likes that?	00:32
nrungta	thanks SRabbelier	00:32
SRabbelier	nrungta: np	00:32
scorche	gevaerts: gopher support has been removed from most browsers by now =(	00:32
iandees_	can i suggest that there be a limit to the number of tags for an org?	00:32
SRabbelier	iandees_: I think we can just have that be a social convention, no? :)	00:32
scorche	iandees_: dont make me make a tag_containing_multiple_tags_about_my_org_like_this ;)	00:33
gevaerts	scorche: please, no! That probably breaks my regexp!	00:33
* SRabbelier rofls		00:33
iandees_	i suppoooose :) some of the orgs get more space on the org list cuz they have so many tags. not fair!	00:34
iandees_	seriously though, the site looks great!	00:34
scorche	iandees_: you can make stuff up too - hell, blender has a tag of "fur"! ;)	00:34
* scorche doesnt think that students will be filtering by the tag "fur" much		00:35
SRabbelier	iandees_: thanks ^^	00:35
SRabbelier	scorche: that's a bit disturbing	00:35
iandees_	"fur" is the tag that came to mind when i was poking through the list :)	00:36
SRabbelier	iandees_: hehe	00:36
iandees_	i can't seem to find a link i can send to my mailing lists to ask mentors to sign up	00:37
iandees_	i see invite links...	00:37
scorche	if you are a mentor already, you cannot see the mentors sign up area	00:37
scorche	logout	00:37
iandees_	i'm admin	00:37
scorche	admins are mentors ;	00:37
scorche	;)	00:37
iandees_	oh look at that big "mentors: apply!" when signed out	00:38
iandees_	that should be sufficient	00:38
iandees_	aww you cropped me out of the mentor summit photo :)	00:38
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SRabbelier	iandees_: awr! :P	00:39
SRabbelier	iandees_: btw, it's best to just link them to your org home page	00:39
iandees_	k, thanks	00:39
SRabbelier	iandees_: as that will show the correct link depending on whether they are registered or not	00:39
scorche	SRabbelier: ideally i would like to change the application template before students can sign up, so unless it will be worked on "soon", please do let me know to change it ;) (i am sure it is far from the highest priority, but...)	00:41
SRabbelier	scorche: it's actually high-priority	00:42
SRabbelier	scorche: I've been fiddling with css already	00:42
scorche	\o/	00:42
SRabbelier	(but wanted to fix the buttons first)	00:42
SRabbelier	scorche: django doesn't know how to clean irc:// links :(	00:45
scorche	SRabbelier: surely there must be something - it cant be too difficult...	00:45
SRabbelier	scorche: heh, I'm just going to replace irc:// with http:// and run that through the url cleaner :P	00:45
* scorche changed his links away from irc:// anyway, as the langing page on the rockbox web site seemed more informative and could be used with, say, web clients as opposed to an irc:// link		00:47
Triskelios	are people able to request themselves to be added as mentors now? I want to provide some instructions to our mentors so they don't have to email the admins individually to be added	00:47
scorche	Triskelios: yes	00:47
SRabbelier	Triskelios: tell them to go to the organization homepage	00:48
scorche	Triskelios: tell them to go to your org homepage and look for the large box at the bottom of the page	00:48
SRabbelier	Triskelios: and apply there	00:48
Triskelios	excellent, thanks!	00:48
scorche	Triskelios: (hint: you wont see the box unless you are not a mentor for that org already)	00:48
Triskelios	gotcha	00:48
SRabbelier	s/unless/if/	00:49
SRabbelier	err	00:49
SRabbelier	no nvm	00:49
SRabbelier	you used double negation	00:49
scorche	hint: you must not be listed as a mentor for that org already in order to see the sign up box	00:49
SRabbelier	scorche: better ^^	00:50
scorche	s/not be/not already be	00:50
SRabbelier	scorche: I suppose we can add a box if you are already registered telling you that you are?	00:50
scorche	SRabbelier: that would likely be better, yes	00:50
scorche	"you are signed up as a mentor for this org!"	00:50
SRabbelier	scorche: can do	00:51
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anth_x	once i (as admin) approve a request to be a mentor, is there another action required by the mentor to move the request down into the actual mentor's list?	01:04
SRabbelier	scorche: validation re-enabled	01:07
SRabbelier	anth_x: no, should work instantly	01:07
anth_x	i've approved two requests which are still sitting there.	01:07
SRabbelier	anth_x: although we show the completed request still	01:07
SRabbelier	anth_x: did the status change to accepted?	01:07
anth_x	oh, okay. yes, accepted, but not in the mentor's list.	01:07
SRabbelier	anth_x: what link_ids?	01:11
scorche	SRabbelier: is there currently a way to remove mentors from the list?	01:14
SRabbelier	scorche: n...o	01:15
SRabbelier	scorche: there will be	01:15
anth_x	SRabbelier: jas and de0u	01:15
SRabbelier	anth_x: they are indeed not mentors	01:17
anth_x	i've accepted them. the status indicates it and the buttons are gone.	01:17
anth_x	(not doubting you, just providing more info)	01:17
SRabbelier	anth_x: when did you accept them?	01:18
SRabbelier	anth_x: as in, how many minutes ago, approximately?	01:18
anth_x	recently. after the "okay, go" announcement. um, an hour ago? not entirely sure.	01:19
SRabbelier	anth_x: in that case	01:19
SRabbelier	anth_x: you were hit by a bug in the request processing	01:20
SRabbelier	anth_x: I've emailed all the people that were affected by 8it	01:20
SRabbelier	anth_x: e.g., jeff.sickel has an email	01:20
SRabbelier	anth_x: but I didn't know who accepted the request	01:20
SRabbelier	anth_x: the request _should_ have been set back to pending	01:21
SRabbelier	anth_x: isn't it?	01:21
anth_x	i still see "The request has been accepted." and no button to accept on the resulting page.	01:21
SRabbelier	anth_x: hm	01:22
scorche	anth_x: i see that too here, but they have still been moved down to the mentors list	01:22
SRabbelier	scorche: different org, right?	01:22
scorche	of course	01:22
anth_x	um, since i asked about this a few minutes ago, two other mentors have vanished from the list - including me!	01:23
* scorche backs away from anth_x		01:23
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SRabbelier	anth_x: vanished? oxy clean action?	01:23
anth_x	we had three mentors (me, the backup admin, and one guy i accepted before the functionality went down a week and a half ago or whatever). now it's just the backup admin.	01:24
SRabbelier	anth_x: can you refresh the page?	01:24
anth_x	same	01:25
SRabbelier	anth_x: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/dashboard/google/gsoc2011?fmt=json&idx=9	01:25
tpb	<http://ln-s.net/8fDX> (at www.google-melange.com)	01:25
SRabbelier	anth_x: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/dashboard/google/gsoc2011?fmt=json&idx=9&start=mentor:	01:25
tpb	<http://ln-s.net/8fDZ> (at www.google-melange.com)	01:25
SRabbelier	anth_x: do they show up there?	01:25
anth_x	first one has only the backup mentor, as listed on the web page. second one gives a 500.	01:26
SRabbelier	anth_x: make sure you include the trailing :	01:26
anth_x	oh, it hadn't. sorry.	01:26
anth_x	the two who are missing (me and the other guy) are on that second one.	01:27
SRabbelier	anth_x: ok, in that case, let me try something	01:27
SRabbelier	anth_x: deploying a new version, that should fix your caching issue	01:31
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SRabbelier	anth_x: ok, when you reload your dashboard, it _should_ reload all assets, so you should notice that for example the lists start out missing (because the resources are still loading), please verify that that is indeed the case	01:32
SRabbelier	well, nvm	01:33
SRabbelier	it was the other way around	01:33
SRabbelier	I broke the lists	01:33
SRabbelier	and didn't notice because _I_ am having caching issues :P	01:33
anth_x	er, yeah, i see no change.	01:33
scorche	now i only see one entity under "MENTORS AND ADMINS FOR ORGANIZATIONS I AM AN ADMIN FOR"	01:33
SRabbelier	scorche: yeah, you'll only see mentors	01:33
scorche	you mean admins?	01:33
scorche	the person i see if my backup admin	01:34
scorche	s/if/is	01:34
SRabbelier	scorche: oh, right, I mean, you'll only see people that are admins but not mentors	01:34
scorche	but arent they technically considered a mentor automatically too? ;)	01:34
* scorche ducks		01:34
SRabbelier	scorche: yeah	01:34
SRabbelier	scorche: except in that bit of code	01:34
gevaerts	\_o<	01:34
scorche	>o_/	01:35
anth_x	cute	01:35
SRabbelier	lol, nice	01:35
scorche	i only wish i could make a lobster work in IRC like how i have it on my very useless landing page for my site: http://squisch.net/ (enable javascript and wait for it)	01:36
tpb	Title: Why helloooooooooooooooooooo thar! (at squisch.net)	01:36
anth_x	looks more crab than lobster.	01:37
SRabbelier	anth_x: try now plesase	01:38
SRabbelier	schultmc: ^	01:38
anth_x	SRabbelier: still looks like crabs. ;-)	01:38
anth_x	the three previously-present mentors are back in the mentor list (yay!) but the pending requests still show as accepted.	01:38
SRabbelier	anth_x: right, let me fix those	01:39
SRabbelier	anth_x: those link_ids again please?	01:40
anth_x	jas and de0u	01:40
scorche	anth_x: meh - i like lobsters more - and head-on you would see more legs with a crab	01:40
anth_x	but crabs are flatter. whatever, it's your art, call it what you like. :-)	01:40
SRabbelier	anth_x: ah, you could help me a lot if you gave me the request ids instead of the link_ids	01:41
SRabbelier	anth_x: (last component of the url)	01:41
anth_x	6465210	01:41
anth_x	6485206	01:41
anth_x	back in 5...	01:43
SRabbelier	anth_x: try now	01:44
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anth_x	they now show as unreplied (yay!). is it safe to reply to them?	01:47
SRabbelier	anth_x: yup	01:49
anth_x	yay! everything now looks as i'd expect: the request show as accepted and the people are now down in my mentor list.	01:50
anth_x	thanks!	01:50
* SRabbelier dance		01:52
SRabbelier	I can go to bed now? 0.O	01:52
* SRabbelier goes to bed regardless		01:53
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anth_x	fair enough, as i'd gone to collect dinner. :-)	02:09
anth_x	now going to go find a movie to watch. thanks again.	02:09
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ptressel	SRabbelier, Don't hit me but, the new melange is pretty an' all, but...where is the business end? Is there a link that will go straight to an org's page?	03:19
robbyoconnor	I agree with ptressel	03:20
robbyoconnor	I want the old melange back	03:20
ptressel	Well, I'm just hoping to put in a word for some more blatant nav links.	03:21
ptressel	Also, here's something odd: Have a look at the "Personal Availability" section here: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2011/sahana	03:24
tpb	<http://ln-s.net/8fFo> (at www.google-melange.com)	03:24
ptressel	The link to the timeline is covered by what look like arrow symbols.	03:25
ptressel	At least, on Firefox 3.6.	03:25
robbyoconnor	Firefox4 here	03:26
robbyoconnor	same.	03:26
robbyoconnor	(not to make it look like an ambush)	03:26
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krow	Is there an admin for google-melange.com around?	05:42
scorche	they are likely all asleep - whats up?	05:42
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krow	scorche: Having an issue with seeing the "My Profile" or "My Dashboard" despite being logged in.	05:51
scorche	odd - all i can tell you is it works for me - have you tried logging out and then back in?	05:51
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krow	scorche: a couple of times :)	06:02
krow	scorche: Oh well, I'll ask tomorrow. Thanks!	06:02
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forzn	So the GSoC page for Melange recommended I ask about ideas regarding 'World Domination'.	06:08
forzn	Is there anything I should know before I submit a proposal tomorrow?	06:09
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scorche	forzn: lots, i'm sure ;)	06:10
scorche	i hope you have been speaking with the org(s) about it	06:10
forzn	In that case, I'll keep that one in my back pocket and submit something a bit more tame.	06:12
forzn	But in regards to actually submitting something, I haven't come to a conclusion on what I'd like to work on yet. Are proposals regarding the published ideas generally preferred, or would it be best to come up with something entirely new, but related?	06:14
hypatia	that depends on the project, forzn	06:17
hypatia	some are more open to new ideas than others	06:17
forzn	Specifically in regards to Melange is what I meant. There are 5 fully fleshed out ideas and around 20 one-liners on the ideas page.	06:19
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forzn	I've never participated in GSoC so I'm not sure if those are the primary goals that need to be taken care of this Summer, or if these almost always get filled, and you handle a great number more that haven't been mentioned as well.	06:21
ptressel	SRabbelier, Another oddity: The old melange used to autocomplete. I'm not getting that behavior in the fields where I'd expect it. For instance in the list of approved orgs here: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2011	06:23
tpb	<http://ln-s.net/8f0E> (at www.google-melange.com)	06:23
scorche	!advice	06:24
scorche	>_>	06:24
scorche	!students	06:24
* scorche fails		06:24
scorche	forzn: http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforStudents	06:24
tpb	<http://ln-s.net/35RK> (at code.google.com)	06:24
scorche	just ignore the stuff there from 2008/2009/etc ;)	06:25
forzn	scorche: That's why I'm here :) I'm looking for information specific to what you want, before I submit a proposal.	06:26
scorche	well, that all depends on the org..	06:28
forzn	I might be confused here. What do you mean by org?	06:28
scorche	oh, wait - this is #melange isnt it	06:28
forzn	Yep	06:28
scorche	ignore me - i thought this was #gsoc	06:29
forzn	Haha, it's ok	06:29
scorche	well, the advice i gave is still relevant, so dont completely ignore me, but you want some of the melange devs ;)	06:29
forzn	I'm guessing they're all asleep.	06:29
scorche	yes	06:30
scorche	you would likely have better luck during times that .eu people are awake	06:30
ptressel	SRabbelier, one more: After registering as a mentor, on the personal dashboard, there is "You can now apply to Google Summer of Code". The word "apply" is linked to the page of accepted orgs, not to any application.	06:30
forzn	I'm in Hawaii, so that's going to be a problem for me, regardless of the organization.	06:30
scorche	forzn: there will always be overlap in times ;)	06:30
ptressel	SRabbelier: On the dashboard, there is a section for "my organization applications" and "my requests" but no (obivous) way to either apply to an org or make a request.	06:31
forzn	At least the early work will mostly be communications, my coding is crippled between 6-10AM	06:31
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ptressel	SRabbelier: So I'm guessing the dashboard is (at the moment) aimed at students, not mentors. To conclude (and then I'll shut up and quit hinting), the nav tree on the old melange was very helpful, and made it more obvious where to find things.	06:38
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akssps011	Is the "create document" on melange has been removed ?	08:52
akssps011	I don't see any option to access my profile on melange	08:52
madrazr	akssps011: basically most of the things are new	08:54
madrazr	akssps011: so yes, in the new UI we have not added an interface to create documents for orgs	08:55
madrazr	akssps011: however we are able to do it at the program level	08:55
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akssps011	madrazr: so are they still available with the old link ?	09:01
madrazr	akssps011: org documents, no :(	09:01
madrazr	akssps011: I am just checking to see if there is a way to enable the legacy URLs	09:01
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akssps011	madrazr: that would be cool :)	09:02
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madrazr	akssps011: btw for accessing profile option, please feel free to file an issue	09:18
madrazr	akssps011: http://tinyurl.com/new-issue	09:18
tpb	Title: Google Project Hosting (at tinyurl.com)	09:18
madrazr	akssps011: also btw I now realize that Create Document is intentionally removed	09:19
madrazr	akssps011: we want to get away from that idea	09:19
madrazr	akssps011: if you think it is important to you, please file an issue for that too	09:19
madrazr	akssps011: although if you have an existing document, I think, we can add a way to access them	09:19
gedex	madrazr: Hi, do you have any clue why I couldn't invite mentors in my local-devel, the error was available here : http://pastebin.com/8QB9574d	09:21
tpb	Title: Environment: Request Method: GET Request URL: http://localhost:8080/gsoc/inv - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)	09:21
madrazr	gedex: how updated are you on the code base?	09:22
gedex	madrazr: just updated sec ago. revision d17769a4305f exactly	09:23
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madrazr	gedex: http://code.google.com/p/soc/source/detail?r=9f7147979070d8fa4abfed3abcebbc0631a8a7dd	09:23
madrazr	check thus	09:23
madrazr	*this	09:23
tpb	<http://ln-s.net/8fLK> (at code.google.com)	09:23
madrazr	gedex: that commit broke the code	09:23
madrazr	gedex: I think Daniel will fix that	09:24
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gedex	madrazr: Thanks dude :)	09:25
akssps011	madrazr: thanks. I think the create document is important. Though there's alternate ways of creating documents but within melange it was a useful tool	09:27
akssps011	madrazr: I didn't loose any documents. At least was smart enough to back them when the makeover was announced :)	09:27
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akssps011	madrazr: Is there any plan to restore the records of previous year GSoCs ?	09:33
madrazr	akssps011: yes, sure!	09:36
madrazr	akssps011: for creating documents, please file an issue	09:37
madrazr	akssps011: if you think it is useful, it might be useful for others too and so it may be necessary	09:37
madrazr	gedex: NP	09:39
madrazr	gedex: you can pull the changes now	09:40
madrazr	gedex: Daniel committed the fix	09:41
gedex	madrazr: sure, wait sec	09:41
gedex	madrazr: it works!	09:46
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Nightrose	hey :)	12:00
SRabbelier	Greetings	12:00
Nightrose	the title of http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/request/google/gsoc2011/6456211 says "no page name present, bug a developer"	12:00
tpb	<http://ln-s.net/8fPi> (at www.google-melange.com)	12:00
Nightrose	i'm doing that now :D	12:00
SRabbelier	Nightrose: most kind ^^	12:00
Nightrose	:P i know	12:01
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nrungta	"The mentors and admins for organizations I am admin for" only shows some of the mentors from the set of mentor requests I have accepted.	14:54
nrungta	The ones that show up are the ones I accepted this morning. The ones I accepted last evening don't show up in the list.	14:55
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slingshot316	madrazr: hello :)	15:07
slingshot316	echoditto will take care of the GCI UI too right?	15:08
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eoc	heya, any way to re-invite mentors if somebody (erroneously) rejected the first application?	15:10
eoc	SRabbelier: ^ sorry for the ping	15:19
SRabbelier	SRabbelier: they can accept the invitation after all	15:19
SRabbelier	err	15:19
SRabbelier	not me	15:19
SRabbelier	eoc: ^	15:19
SRabbelier	eoc: they can just go to the invite nad hit accept	15:19
eoc	I meant rejection on org-admin side	15:20
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eoc	SRabbelier: from what I got, admin: send invitation & admin: withdraw invitation disabled both us inviting the mentor and him applying	15:25
SRabbelier	eoc: ah, they withdrew?	15:26
SRabbelier	eoc: that is being fixed this release	15:26
SRabbelier	eoc: allowing them to resubmit	15:26
eoc	ah, great :)	15:26
eoc	so now we just need to wait?	15:26
SRabbelier	eoc: it's live	15:40
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eoc	SRabbelier: then something is borked at least for me. I'm seeing a withdrawn invitation and have no way to interact with it	15:47
eoc	the mentor in question cannot apply as well "You are already for this organization"	15:47
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SRabbelier	eoc: the person who withdrew needs to resubmit it	15:48
SRabbelier	eoc: if that was the to-be-mentor they should go to their dashboard from where they can fix it	15:48
eoc	I as admin can't -> "An invitation to this user has already been sent." and the mentor cannot do as well, see above error	15:49
SRabbelier	eoc: they should go to the existing request	15:49
SRabbelier	eoc: or are they already doing that?	15:49
eoc	yeah	15:50
eoc	there's no buttons in it for both of us besides the message and all other data	15:50
SRabbelier	eoc: id of the request?	15:51
eoc	SRabbelier: 6477226	15:51
SRabbelier	eoc: looking into it	15:52
eoc	thanks! (-.	15:52
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SRabbelier	eoc: fix deploying	16:12
eoc	tension rising :)	16:13
krow	Is there an admin for google-melange.com around? Having an issue with seeing the "My Profile" or "My Dashboard" despite being logged in.	16:16
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SRabbelier	krow: sure	16:19
SRabbelier	krow: what's the problem?	16:19
krow	SRabbelier: So when I login I don't see a "My Profile" or "My Dashboard".	16:20
SRabbelier	krow: why should you have one?	16:20
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krow	SRabbelier: I am told that I would have those boxes. The root of the problem is that I am trying to find my mentor id.	16:22
SRabbelier	krow: are you a mentor already?	16:23
SRabbelier	krow: is there a "Register" box on the homepage?	16:23
krow	SRabbelier: I am told that I am, but I don't see the register box.	16:24
SRabbelier	krow: can you send me a streenshot of what you see on http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2011 ?	16:24
tpb	<http://ln-s.net/8erH> (at www.google-melange.com)	16:24
SRabbelier	krow: there's no "mentors: apply now!" box there?	16:24
iamaregee	hey is google api the google apps engine only ???	16:27
iamaregee	or apps engine is a part of google api ??	16:27
SRabbelier	iamaregee: your question makes no sense to me	16:28
iamaregee	hmm..	16:30
iamaregee	sorry for that...	16:30
iamaregee	googled it ...	16:30
iamaregee	clear now..	16:30
iamaregee	:)	16:30
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krow	SRabbelier: I'm blind ;)	16:30
SRabbelier	krow: hehe	16:30
krow	SRabbelier: Thanks, I had been told to look up in the left hand corner and I just read skipped everything else :)	16:30
SRabbelier	krow: it won't there until you've signed up :)	16:31
krow	SRabbelier: Yeah, I had asked the person who is running the show for us this year and they had said "you are signed up, it is supposed to be there". Oh well, thanks again, have a great day!	16:32
SRabbelier	krow: cool	16:33
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LetterRip	SRabbelier: another bug report - you can't give a message with your rejection anymore (I think you used to be able to)	16:56
LetterRip	a student applied to be a mentor	16:56
SRabbelier	LetterRip: ah!	16:57
LetterRip	and i wanted to give a message	16:57
SRabbelier	LetterRip: good point	16:57
LetterRip	that he was applying to the wrong section	16:57
SRabbelier	LetterRip: will see about adding that back	16:58
jljusten1	Should it be possible to be both an admin and mentor in GSoC?	16:58
LetterRip	ty	16:58
LetterRip	jljusten1: nope	16:58
LetterRip	not allowed	16:58
LetterRip	ohh wait	16:58
LetterRip	yes	16:58
LetterRip	doh!	16:58
LetterRip	sorry :)	16:58
LetterRip	thought you said student and mentor for some reason	16:58
SRabbelier	jljusten1: you're automatically a mentor if you're an admin	16:59
LetterRip	brain not awake :)	16:59
jljusten1	Ah, I was trying to test adding myself as a mentor, but now I can't do anything with the request... :)	16:59
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\|Kev\|	Righty, will spam in here instead of gsoc then :)	17:00
SRabbelier	\|Kev\|: sure	17:01
\|Kev\|	buglet #1 - It's claiming that the Public mailing list isn't valid, the text suggests it should be a URL or a mailto:, it's a standard URL.	17:01
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SRabbelier	jljusten1: you probably shouldn't be able to invite yourself, or mentors :P	17:01
\|Kev\|	Buglet-that-kinda-isn't #2 - Can we allow other valid URI schemes to the chatroom field, please? Ours xs xmpp:[email protected]?join	17:01
\|Kev\|	s/xs/is/	17:02
SRabbelier	\|Kev\|: mhhh, but the icon says irc, yeah?	17:02
\|Kev\|	It does. I'd much rather it didn't, or it changed to xmpp: if it's an xmpp: link :)	17:02
SRabbelier	\|Kev\|: there's an issue for that already :)	17:04
SRabbelier	\|Kev\|: see the tracker, it has "CONTACT" in the issue title I think	17:05
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\|Kev\|	Thanks. I'll have to track down the tracker then :)	17:06
\|Kev\|	Oh, found it!	17:06
\|Kev\|	Ah, my first report was in error, sorry. Bear'd put a trailing space in there, and it doesn't get trimmed.	17:07
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\|Kev\|	SRabbelier: Oh, well, that's especially amusing. I gave up on the xmpp:... thing, and deleted the content entirely. So Melange accepted it, and populated it with the old value.	17:11
\|Kev\|	Which is, unfortunately, wrong. I can't imagine why, but it seems Bear typod xmpp://[email protected] instead of xmpp:[email protected] :)	17:11
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weta	Hi. I am an admin/mentor for a particular organization (Freeseer). We're getting a message "Organization Freeseer video recording and streaming suite is not active in Google Summer of Code 2011." when people request to be a mentor. Is anyone able to advise me on what to check to fix this up? Thank you kindly.	18:13
SRabbelier	weta: sure	18:14
weta	SRabbelier: thanks.	18:14
SRabbelier	weta: did you ever sign up to be an admin?	18:14
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weta	SRabbelier: I filled out the form to apply on behalf of the organization. And when I got the email asking for more information, completed that too.	18:15
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weta	SRabbelier: I can't recall seeing any request that I didn't complete. But stranger things have been known to happen. :P	18:15
SRabbelier	weta: what's your link_id?	18:15
\|Kev\|	http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2011/freeseer	18:15
tpb	<http://ln-s.net/8fZ2> (at www.google-melange.com)	18:15
weta	My linkid is fosslc	18:16
SRabbelier	weta: you're only a mentor for python atm, yeah?	18:17
weta	SRabbelier: odd, that must have been carried over from 2010. I'm trying to apply to be a mentor for Freeseer for 2011. Getting the error above.	18:18
SRabbelier	weta: ah, you're right, I was looking at last year's profile	18:19
SRabbelier	weta: I'll make you org admin, since you created the org profile this year	18:19
weta	Thanks SRabbelier, I really appreciate the help. Is there something I should have done to avoid you having to make me admin?	18:20
SRabbelier	weta: done	18:20
SRabbelier	weta: yeah, you should have filled out your org admin invite in the old system, but it's quite allright	18:22
SRabbelier	weta: you should see the invite in your dashboard	18:22
weta	SRabbelier: shoot, sorry to be a pain - I don't remember seeing it. Yeah, saw that and accepted it.	18:22
weta	SRabbelier: we'll give 'er a go now and see if we're good. Thank you kindly for your help. We really appreciate it.	18:22
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SRabbelier	weta: no problem, sorry that the system is being a pain	18:23
weta	SRabbelier: I've been involved with various programs like this. Even with the bumps, it's still very well organized and out in front of most of them! So thank you.	18:24
SRabbelier	weta: awr, thanks!	18:25
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eoc	true indeed	18:25
eoc	SRabbelier: again bothering you though, gnah :-/ I haven't found a solution to our mentor-withdrawn issue, neither mentor nor me can do anything to re-send any invitation or request	18:26
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SRabbelier	eoc: oh?	18:30
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eoc	SRabbelier: yeah, can I be of any help to clear this? guess we need the mentor :-)	18:48
SRabbelier	eoc: yeah, it would be helpful if they could come over here :)	18:49
SRabbelier	eoc: because I was able to resubmit a withdrawn proposal	18:50
eoc	by accessing the withdrawn invite or via 'invite mentor'?	18:51
robbyoconnor	Who designed the UI for melange this year? It'd horrid	18:52
robbyoconnor	how the hell do I see submitted propsoals?	18:52
robbyoconnor	:/	18:52
scorche	robbyoconnor: you dont yet ;)	18:54
scorche	also, constructive criticism goes much further than "it is horrid"...	18:54
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jamesturk	hi, I'm the admin for sunlightlabs and I noticed that on http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2011 we aren't showing up	18:57
tpb	<http://ln-s.net/8f0E> (at www.google-melange.com)	18:57
jamesturk	though our page on http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2011/sunlightlabs works	18:57
tpb	<http://ln-s.net/8f_3> (at www.google-melange.com)	18:57
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jamesturk	seeing as applications are about to start i hope there's a relatively simple solution to this?	19:02
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SRabbelier	jamesturk: interestin	19:03
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SRabbelier	jamesturk: I don't know how you did this	19:04
SRabbelier	jamesturk: your organization is marked as inactive 0.O	19:04
jamesturk	how I did it?	19:04
jamesturk	haha	19:04
SRabbelier	this is reaaaaly weird!!	19:05
SRabbelier	oh, wait	19:05
SRabbelier	I think I'm looking at last year's	19:05
SRabbelier	yes, nvm :)	19:05
ptressel	;-)	19:05
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SRabbelier	jamesturk: ok, so... yeah, you should be showing up :D	19:06
gevaerts	!next	19:07
gevaerts	bah	19:07
SRabbelier	gevaerts: wrong channel	19:07
gevaerts	SRabbelier: I wasn't wrong! It's socinfo that doesn't live in the right place! :)	19:07
SRabbelier	gevaerts: good point	19:07
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rodrigo_barba	hi everybody	19:10
SRabbelier	jamesturk: so... you are showing up	19:10
SRabbelier	jamesturk: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2011?fmt=json&idx=0&start=google/gsoc2011/nescent	19:10
tpb	<http://ln-s.net/8f_R> (at www.google-melange.com)	19:10
rodrigo_barba	can someone help me?	19:11
rodrigo_barba	i did a submission to become a mentor, but i don´t wanna be a mentor	19:11
rodrigo_barba	a wish to become a participant	19:11
SRabbelier	rodrigo_barba: on your dashboard	19:11
SRabbelier	rodrigo_barba: click on the request	19:12
SRabbelier	rodrigo_barba: then withdraw	19:12
jamesturk	SRabbelier: so if we're in the JSON but not on the actual page is that a melange bug?	19:13
SRabbelier	jamesturk: yeah, definitely	19:14
SRabbelier	jamesturk: I've poked the responsible developer, this is not something I can fix myself atm, my JS chops aren't good enough :)	19:14
SRabbelier	jamesturk: it's #1 priority though	19:14
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jamesturk	SRabbelier: thanks	19:14
SRabbelier	sonney2k: now, let me look at the invite thing	19:15
sonney2k	SRabbelier, http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2011/shogun I tried to invite ckwidmer as admin now	19:15
tpb	<http://ln-s.net/8f_Y> (at www.google-melange.com)	19:15
rodrigo_barba	SRabbelier: when i go to this page that you told, has nothing	19:16
SRabbelier	rodrigo_barba: url?	19:17
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rodrigo_barba	SRabbelier: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/dashboard/google/gsoc2011	19:18
tpb	<http://ln-s.net/8f9R> (at www.google-melange.com)	19:18
SRabbelier	rodrigo_barba: you don't see at the bottom a list with "MY REQUESTS"?	19:19
rodrigo_barba	SRabbelier: has nothing in this part	19:19
SRabbelier	rodrigo_barba: aaah, but you did fill out an mentor profile?	19:20
rodrigo_barba	SRabbelier: no	19:20
rodrigo_barba	SRabbelier: so, have no problem, that´s right?	19:21
SRabbelier	rodrigo_barba: then I don't understand your question	19:21
eoc	#gsoc: <danparker> The list of orgs is missing Phylosoc for some reason	19:21
SRabbelier	eoc: also?	19:22
* SRabbelier suspects an off-by-one error now		19:22
eoc	just reporting, I've no business with them	19:22
SRabbelier	sonney2k: fix deploying	19:23
SRabbelier	eoc: thanks	19:23
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sonney2k	SRabbelier, ? I still get An invitation to this user has already been sent.	19:24
eoc	oh that one looks familiar :-)	19:24
k0p	SRabbelier: dude are you there?	19:25
k0p	I'm not sure if it stupidness of the student	19:25
SRabbelier	k0p: yes	19:25
SRabbelier	sonney2k: I said deploying!! :P	19:25
SRabbelier	sonney2k: it's slow!	19:25
k0p	but in the proposal, the image appears with local path	19:25
k0p	the student submited a proposal	19:25
SRabbelier	k0p: lol	19:25
* SRabbelier rofls		19:25
k0p	SRabbelier: in the code html.	19:26
k0p	well, ok	19:26
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k0p	<img src="file:///C:/Windows/TEMP/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.png"<- it is the html code	19:26
* SRabbelier falls over laughing		19:27
k0p	so, it is stupdiness ? :)	19:27
k0p	ok	19:27
k0p	damm.	19:27
k0p	:)	19:27
eoc	seems like student-in-question did not pass the first selection criteria	19:27
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k0p	yeah, definally. :D	19:27
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SRabbelier	k0p: I must say I haven't tried the insert image functionality :)	19:27
SRabbelier	k0p: perhaps it's just that confusing	19:27
SRabbelier	actually	19:28
SRabbelier	we don't have any	19:28
SRabbelier	so no clue how he got that in	19:28
k0p	SRabbelier: is there any melange-dev deployed?	19:28
k0p	just to play a bit?	19:28
SRabbelier	k0p: sure, one sec	19:29
SRabbelier	sonney2k: D'0oh	19:29
SRabbelier	sonney2k: error deploying	19:29
SRabbelier	#appengine fail	19:29
k0p	I just have to be sure, how stupid is the student :)	19:29
SRabbelier	k0p: lol	19:31
gevaerts	To be honest, I'd count "Doesn't know how web pages work" as a plus :)	19:32
SRabbelier	great	19:33
SRabbelier	the error is persistent	19:33
k0p	SRabbelier: this new melange is cool, but it does have yet "anti-lammers" feature :(	19:34
SRabbelier	k0p: eh?	19:34
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k0p	not sure, in the template was a question: previouly open source experience. he point out a commercial website	19:35
k0p	damm. :)	19:36
SRabbelier	k0p: hhehehe	19:36
kronos	SRabbelier, hey..sorry couldnt work on the autocomplete patch yet.. had been busy with some work.	19:42
SRabbelier	kronos: nod	19:42
ptressel	SRabbelier, I applied as a mentor, but my admin says the application didn't show up. I'm wondering if it has to do w/ the lack of autocomplete. I typed the org name in verbatim, but maybe that's not enough to get it to the right org.	19:44
SRabbelier	sonney2k: you around still?	19:45
SRabbelier	ptressel: que? where exactly did you type in the org name?	19:45
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sonney2k	SRabbelier, yes	19:46
robbyoconnor	(I apologize if I came off rude)	19:46
robbyoconnor	scorche: sorry :)	19:46
SRabbelier	sonney2k: AppEngine won't let me deploy the fix; is it critical that they become admin right now?	19:46
ptressel	SRabbelier, Cancel that -- I'm wrong. I used the apply as mentor link on the org page.	19:46
SRabbelier	ptressel: ok	19:47
sonney2k	SRabbelier, no not important right now but within this week would be nice - I'd like to have all the admin stuff done by then	19:47
ptressel	But I didn't get to the org page via the autocomplete.	19:47
SRabbelier	sonney2k: sure, hopefully much sooner than that :P	19:47
ptressel	Still wondering why the application went poof.	19:47
SRabbelier	ptressel: autocomplete where?	19:47
SRabbelier	ptressel: I still have no idea what you mean	19:48
ptressel	On the dashboard, there is a "my organizations" section.	19:48
robbyoconnor	put constructively: the UI doesn't show the workflow clearly :/	19:48
ptressel	robbyoconnor, shhh.	19:48
SRabbelier	ptressel: yes, those are the organizations that you are already an admin for :P	19:48
robbyoconnor	ok!	19:48
robbyoconnor	:)	19:48
SRabbelier	(or mentor)	19:48
SRabbelier	robbyoconnor: oh?	19:48
robbyoconnor	gonna heed ptressel's advice,I have a massive case of foot in mouth if you haven't figured that out in the four years I been around	19:49
ptressel	There is also an org list that I guessed the link for, so not sure how to get there.	19:49
SRabbelier	ptressel: it's like. this rather obvious box on the homepage? 0.O	19:50
ptressel	And there's the org list that's accessible via the "apply" link on the dashboard.	19:50
SRabbelier	ptressel: "See all participating organizations"	19:50
ptressel	That's not what I mean.	19:50
ptressel	I mean, I can't tell you which of the various org lists it was.	19:50
ptressel	I'm assuming you wanted to identify the particular input box.	19:51
kronos	SRabbelier, i read the patch u sent me and also looked at jquery ui autocomplete. the patch uses "/autocomplete/*" url to send datasource to the jquery js code as and when the user types university name. should i do the same thing ?	19:52
ptressel	Since my application never showed up, it might be that there's a different org list that led to org pages that were not appropriate for applying.	19:53
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SRabbelier	jamesturk: hey	19:56
SRabbelier	jamesturk: bug identified	19:56
SRabbelier	jamesturk: sadly we can't deploy atm :(	19:56
ptressel	Can I suggest something? That "see all participating organizations" is a tiny line buried amongst graphics. How about promoting it to a nice big "Participating organizations" on the nav bar?	19:56
SRabbelier	jamesturk: AppEngine is being a pain	19:56
SRabbelier	ptressel: relaying suggestion to our design team :)	19:58
ptressel	Found it: This is the org list I used to get to the application: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2011	19:58
tpb	<http://ln-s.net/8f0E> (at www.google-melange.com)	19:58
ptressel	That's the one I was thinking would be appropriate as autocomplete.	19:58
gedex	ptressel: In the filter cols?	19:59
ptressel	Yes.	19:59
ptressel	That's what the old UI did.	20:00
ArthurLiu	how do I remove a mentor from my org?	20:00
ptressel	I see it now has instructions for how to use the filter, as in "type a return". ;-)	20:00
SRabbelier	ArthurLiu: you... don't :D	20:00
SRabbelier	ArthurLiu: seriously, you guys _already_ messed up?	20:00
ArthurLiu	.	20:01
SRabbelier	ArthurLiu: I mean, we give you mentor management, and within 2 days you? :P	20:01
SRabbelier	ArthurLiu: it's on our TODO	20:01
SRabbelier	ArthurLiu: I can manually do it if it's important	20:01
ArthurLiu	ETA ?	20:01
eoc	SRabbelier: guess we were faster here	20:02
ptressel	Ok, I think I see what went wrong with the "application". It's not an "application" at all -- the word "apply" is not the relevant operation. It's "request". The "application" I filled out was apparently a "registration" form, regardless of the fact that I got to it via the org's mentor apply / request link.	20:02
jamesturk	SRabbelier: glad to hear it's been found	20:02
eoc	;-)	20:02
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lionel_	hi	20:04
\|Kev\|	Oh, minory bugglettes, 'Im handle' should a) Probably be 'IM handle', and b) has an example of xmpp:gmail.com/Home, which is almost certainly not a useful example. Also url seems to never be uppercase, which is distracting.	20:04
lionel_	I found a bug on google-melange	20:04
ptressel	After filling out that not-an-application form, I recall there was a note that read something like "now you can apply to your organization". So I went to the dashboard, and there was an "apply" link, which got to the org list... Which is when I showed up here yesterday to ask if the dashboard was in a form intended for students...	20:05
lionel_	there are two proposals submitted for kde, the second proposal has a link to the first	20:05
SRabbelier	lionel_: investigating	20:05
ptressel	What might improve that workflow is a message that says, Wait! Before you can apply as a mentor, you need to Register! Fill out this form, and then Go Back to the org page and click request again.	20:06
ptressel	;-)	20:07
lionel_	there are 3 proposals now	20:07
lionel_	all linked to the first	20:07
SRabbelier	lionel_: all linking to the same page? k	20:07
lionel_	yes	20:07
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\|Kev\|	I guess that should probably have priority over invalid examples :)	20:08
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SRabbelier	jamesturk: depoyed, you guys are back	20:11
jamesturk	SRabbelier: thanks!	20:11
SRabbelier	jamesturk: thanks for finding this bug :)	20:11
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SRabbelier	lionel_: mind making me an admin for your org?	20:14
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lionel_	SRabbelier: sorry I don't understand	20:15
SRabbelier	lionel_: invite me to be an admin for your org	20:16
totycro	hi	20:16
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SRabbelier	totycro: hi	20:16
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totycro	i guess eoc already told you about our issue, i'm the one who can't be a mentor because of this: The request has been withdrawn by the sender.	20:16
totycro	is there something i should try?	20:16
lionel_	SRabbelier: I don't know if I can do that	20:17
SRabbelier	totycro: ah, what url are you looking at?	20:17
SRabbelier	lionel_: I can, what org are you from?	20:17
totycro	the overview here: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/dashboard/google/gsoc2011	20:17
tpb	<http://ln-s.net/8f9R> (at www.google-melange.com)	20:17
totycro	and	20:17
totycro	http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/invitation/google/gsoc2011/6477226	20:17
tpb	<http://ln-s.net/8fbo> (at www.google-melange.com)	20:17
lionel_	KDE	20:17
SRabbelier	totycro: ah, it's an invite?	20:17
SRabbelier	well doh	20:17
totycro	yeah	20:17
SRabbelier	totycro, eoc: we only added resubmit functionality to requests :(	20:17
totycro	i don't know what exactly has happened, i only clicked at the 'mentors: apply' link	20:18
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totycro	and this invitation is thw only thing in "my requests"	20:18
eoc	yes, that's the odd stuff. it is no invite	20:18
SRabbelier	totycro: try now	20:19
SRabbelier	oh	20:19
SRabbelier	wait what?	20:19
totycro	Status: This request has had no reply yet.	20:19
SRabbelier	eoc: yes it is	20:19
totycro	erm, i guess that's progress :)	20:19
SRabbelier	totycro: so hit accept now :)	20:19
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totycro	yay	20:20
totycro	ORGANIZATIONS THAT I AM AN ADMIN/MENTOR FOR	20:20
totycro	Unknown Horizons	20:20
totycro	thx	20:20
eoc	SRabbelier: thanks a bunch indeed ;-)	20:20
SRabbelier	eoc: np	20:20
SRabbelier	totycro: yw	20:20
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gedex	I want my org appears in PARTICIPATING ORGANIZATIONS box of homepage :D *seriously I've an idea about this on my proposal	20:26
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lionel_	SRabbelier: there is something I must do about the bug of links ?	20:30
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SRabbelier	limgad: what do you mean?	20:33
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SRabbelier	limgad: ah, I found the bug	20:35
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lionel_	SRabbelier: you are talking to me or limgad ?	20:36
SRabbelier	I HATE THIS IRC CLIENT	20:37
SRabbelier	lionel_: you	20:37
lionel_	:D	20:37
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lionel_	I mean, can I help you to solve the bug	20:37
SRabbelier	lionel_: no I've found it and am working on a fix	20:38
lionel_	ok	20:38
limgad	SRabbelier: what is it?	20:40
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lionel_	limgad: a mistake :)	20:41
limgad	ah, ok	20:41
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SRabbelier	lionel_: try now :)	20:44
lionel_	SRabbelier: good	20:44
lionel_	it works	20:44
SRabbelier	lionel_: excellent	20:44
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Talad	Hi	21:35
Talad	I have a question	21:35
Talad	I received a request from an unknown person to be a mentor	21:36
Talad	and I would like to decline it	21:36
Talad	but also send this guy a message	21:36
Talad	the issue is that there is no email	21:36
Talad	the only thing I see is : Email: contactyudhvir	21:36
Talad	but I guess just a chunk of it for security reasons?	21:36
SRabbelier	Talad: it's a gmail address	21:37
SRabbelier	Talad: sorry about that	21:37
Talad	so [email protected] ?	21:37
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Talad	can be gmail.*	21:39
Talad	I guess there is one for each country	21:39
SRabbelier	Talad: no it's gmail.com	21:39
Talad	ok	21:40
Talad	maybe having: xxxx at gmail dot com	21:40
Talad	will be clearer	21:40
SRabbelier	Talad: no will just add it regularly	21:40
SRabbelier	Talad: but forgot to denormalize	21:40
Talad	ok, thanks	21:41
* SRabbelier is somewhat surprised at how lucky they were		21:44
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durin42	SRabbelier: lucky how?	22:25
SRabbelier	durin42: found a bug very early	22:25
SRabbelier	durin42: link_ids were not being checked for uniqueness properly	22:26
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durin42	fun	22:34
SRabbelier	durin42: ugh, :P	22:37
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Triskelios	SRabbelier: it would be nice to be provide a link to return to the org profile view after editing it	22:45
SRabbelier	Triskelios: gedix's got it	22:45
SRabbelier	gedex I mean	22:45
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scorche	SRabbelier: are these "REQUESTS FOR PROJECTS I AM AN ADMIN FOR" supposed to ever disappear? ;)	23:56
SRabbelier	scorche: yeah, probably we'll filter by default on status != accepted	23:56
* scorche nods		23:57

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