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| madrazr | saviet: ping | 13:30 |
| saviet | hi | 13:30 |
| saviet | am here | 13:30 |
| madrazr | saviet: cool! | 13:30 |
| madrazr | saviet: ready? | 13:30 |
| saviet | yes | 13:30 |
| saviet | sure | 13:30 |
| madrazr | saviet: great. so yeah. I was going through your proposal now, to recollect things | 13:31 |
| saviet | ok | 13:31 |
| madrazr | saviet: anyways before that, how did your exams go? | 13:31 |
| saviet | it went well | 13:31 |
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| madrazr | saviet: nice | 13:31 |
| saviet | 2 down and 3 more to go now | 13:31 |
| madrazr | saviet: Oh! this week should be hard then :) | 13:32 |
| saviet | yes, will be done soon | 13:32 |
| madrazr | saviet: cool! | 13:32 |
| saviet | yup..:) | 13:32 |
| madrazr | saviet: so yeah, did you get any time to think about the project? | 13:32 |
| saviet | well i too went over my proposal | 13:32 |
| saviet | and revised document | 13:32 |
| madrazr | saviet: Ok, anything other than that? | 13:33 |
| saviet | so the main things about the project are the calendar and maps intergration | 13:33 |
| saviet | however you said that the priorities had been discussed | 13:33 |
| madrazr | saviet: yeah. One thing I would like to make very clear at this point | 13:33 |
| saviet | and changed | 13:33 |
| madrazr | saviet: not much, but yeah | 13:33 |
| saviet | ok | 13:33 |
| madrazr | saviet: I would like you to see your project this way | 13:34 |
| saviet | ok | 13:34 |
| madrazr | saviet: just tell me what you feel about it and if you are comfortable with what we have in mind | 13:34 |
| saviet | ok sure | 13:34 |
| madrazr | saviet: all through your proposal submission stage and ranking process, the idea more or less was to make the calendar available and locations of the events to be a layer on top of that | 13:35 |
| madrazr | saviet: may be like a cherry? :P | 13:35 |
| madrazr | on top of icecream | 13:35 |
| saviet | yes, you could put it that way | 13:35 |
| madrazr | saviet: I would like you to see it in reverse way | 13:35 |
| saviet | oh you mean the location forms the base | 13:36 |
| saviet | ? | 13:36 |
| madrazr | saviet: | 13:36 |
| madrazr | yeah | 13:36 |
| madrazr | to put in a very clear way, from what we discussed | 13:36 |
| saviet | ok, so now we have calendars based on location | 13:36 |
| madrazr | exactly | 13:36 |
| madrazr | saviet: let me put it clearly | 13:36 |
| saviet | ok | 13:36 |
| madrazr | from what we discussed, this is what we would like to have: 1. Every user(i.e student/mentor/org admin) must know about other users | 13:37 |
| madrazr | 2. These users must know who are closer to them a. geographically b. in terms of organization and c. in terms of type of work they are doing | 13:38 |
| saviet | ok, when you say know about other users you mean details such as location/profile/roles etc? | 13:38 |
| madrazr | 3. In addition they should also be able to know what is happening around them | 13:38 |
| madrazr | saviet: yeah, basically same as what you have mentioned in your revised proposal | 13:38 |
| saviet | ok | 13:38 |
| madrazr | point 1 is almost same | 13:38 |
| saviet | so all this information will be created in a single module right | 13:39 |
| saviet | as a single feature for the user | 13:39 |
| madrazr | saviet: what kind of module are you mentioning here? you mean a python module or Melange module? | 13:39 |
| madrazr | Melange module == Melange plugin | 13:39 |
| saviet | no i mean in an abstract sense | 13:40 |
| saviet | as a user, | 13:40 |
| madrazr | yeah it can be a module in that sense | 13:40 |
| saviet | i will have one place | 13:40 |
| saviet | where I can find all this information | 13:40 |
| saviet | as well as share information of my own | 13:40 |
| madrazr | well, that depends. I suggest we will not get into implementation details now | 13:40 |
| saviet | ok | 13:40 |
| madrazr | saviet: yeah something like that | 13:40 |
| saviet | ok | 13:41 |
| saviet | I think i got you idea | 13:41 |
| madrazr | saviet: great! | 13:41 |
| saviet | so for users | 13:41 |
| madrazr | saviet: I would like to hear from you, what you think about it | 13:41 |
| madrazr | saviet: sorry, go ahead | 13:41 |
| saviet | the three main categories we are looking at are geographic proximity, organization and type of work proximity | 13:42 |
| madrazr | yeah of both people and events | 13:42 |
| saviet | ok | 13:42 |
| madrazr | and the ability to learn about people | 13:42 |
| saviet | ok so this will then extend onto the user pages feature | 13:43 |
| madrazr | saviet: yeah | 13:43 |
| saviet | so once a user finds out who is geographically close, then the next step would be to go somewhere to learn more about them or their work | 13:43 |
| madrazr | saviet: that should be possible, also learning about people in general as you have suggested should also be possible | 13:44 |
| saviet | ok | 13:44 |
| madrazr | saviet: the one you have suggested in your proposal like, a list containing all the people, classified upon organizations | 13:44 |
| saviet | yes | 13:45 |
| saviet | i think this is a good idea because as I was reading the gsoc students list | 13:45 |
| saviet | the past few days | 13:45 |
| saviet | mails have been all about students and where they are from | 13:45 |
| saviet | this shows that people are very interested in finding out about fellow gsocers | 13:45 |
| saviet | i was myself also thinking of something like what you just suggested | 13:46 |
| madrazr | saviet: Exactly. Awesomeness! I like it :) Thats exactly where the idea of this project stemmed out from | 13:46 |
| saviet | :) | 13:46 |
| saviet | ok | 13:46 |
| madrazr | saviet: you have learnt it quick and now since you have first hand experience you can fabricate things better :) | 13:46 |
| saviet | yes true | 13:47 |
| saviet | in fact, i was also thinking that we could have a global map | 13:47 |
| saviet | where at the very beginning of the program | 13:47 |
| saviet | accepted students can go and tag their locations there | 13:47 |
| saviet | so everyone can get an idea of who is in | 13:48 |
| madrazr | saviet: well yeah, we already have that information actually :P | 13:48 |
| saviet | oh! | 13:48 |
| madrazr | saviet: yeah, that is the plan | 13:48 |
| saviet | tat would make it easier i suppose | 13:49 |
| madrazr | saviet: remember when you filled in your student profile, you specified your location and you had an option to make your location public? | 13:49 |
| saviet | yes | 13:49 |
| madrazr | saviet: yeah, there you go. We have that information there | 13:49 |
| saviet | oh ok | 13:49 |
| saviet | so those who choose not tomake it public | 13:50 |
| saviet | will not have their locations published on the map | 13:50 |
| madrazr | saviet: yes | 13:50 |
| saviet | hm ok | 13:50 |
| saviet | how about the user pages? | 13:50 |
| saviet | would that also have restrictions such as | 13:50 |
| madrazr | saviet: what about it? | 13:50 |
| saviet | visible to all or visible to only some | 13:50 |
| saviet | ? | 13:50 |
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| madrazr | saviet: think of a design with that option, because it will be hard to redesign later if some one wants it | 13:51 |
| saviet | yes | 13:51 |
| madrazr | saviet: we can get a word from Lennard/Sverre and Carol about it | 13:51 |
| saviet | ok | 13:51 |
| madrazr | saviet: ultimately Google should decide what they want for GSoC programme | 13:52 |
| madrazr | saviet: so think of a design with that option | 13:52 |
| saviet | yes ok will do | 13:52 |
| saviet | but if we make the user pages less personal | 13:52 |
| saviet | and more related to the program itself | 13:52 |
| madrazr | saviet: like? | 13:53 |
| saviet | some thing like a project wiki | 13:53 |
| saviet | of course users could share other things | 13:53 |
| saviet | but the minimal thing they SHOULD share could be their project | 13:53 |
| saviet | progress | 13:53 |
| saviet | and other things they are doing | 13:54 |
| saviet | which could be of interest to the rest of the community | 13:54 |
| saviet | its just an idea | 13:54 |
| madrazr | saviet: yeah sure, it should be personalized too along with that | 13:54 |
| madrazr | saviet: but there should be no restriction on that personal data | 13:54 |
| madrazr | saviet: they can provide only if they want to | 13:54 |
| saviet | yes | 13:54 |
| madrazr | saviet: what do you think? | 13:54 |
| madrazr | saviet: cool | 13:54 |
| saviet | i think so too | 13:55 |
| saviet | project data could be a required field while | 13:55 |
| saviet | personal data can be optional | 13:55 |
| madrazr | well, we can think about what fields to make optional and mandatory later | 13:55 |
| saviet | ok :) | 13:56 |
| madrazr | saviet: just trying to keep this meeting short, considering your exams :P | 13:56 |
| saviet | another thing i wanted to ask you, just advice | 13:56 |
| madrazr | saviet: definitely, go ahead | 13:56 |
| saviet | i kind of looked through the code base for melange | 13:56 |
| saviet | and made some changes here and there to see how things worked | 13:57 |
| saviet | but the code is massive | 13:57 |
| saviet | how to i get familiar with it? | 13:57 |
| saviet | any tips on where i could start exploring the code? | 13:57 |
| madrazr | saviet: yeah I agree, we have a decently big code base, but it is not as big as Linux kernel or KDE project I guess? :P | 13:57 |
| saviet | yes of course :) | 13:58 |
| madrazr | saviet: anyways, jokes apart, on a very serious note. Just keep in mind that we all started at the same point where you are now | 13:58 |
| saviet | ok | 13:58 |
| madrazr | saviet: around 1 and half years ago, I too was asking Lennard and Sverre same questions | 13:58 |
| madrazr | saviet: I will give you same answer they gave me :P | 13:58 |
| saviet | ok | 13:58 |
| madrazr | saviet: don't read code. Code reading without doing won't do much help | 13:59 |
| madrazr | saviet: it will make as much help as to scare you the most | 13:59 |
| madrazr | saviet: it will be overwhelming to you | 13:59 |
| saviet | ok :) | 13:59 |
| madrazr | saviet: just take up an issue in Melange | 13:59 |
| madrazr | saviet: fix it | 13:59 |
| madrazr | saviet: submit the patch | 13:59 |
| madrazr | saviet: in the process you will learn a lot | 14:00 |
| saviet | ok | 14:00 |
| saviet | i will | 14:00 |
| saviet | i understand what ur saying tat if i do the patch | 14:00 |
| saviet | i will definetely get to know the code better | 14:00 |
| madrazr | saviet: exactly | 14:01 |
| madrazr | saviet: take up some small patches | 14:01 |
| saviet | ok then, will get to that as soon as exams end this wed | 14:01 |
| madrazr | saviet: we are anyways thinking of giving you some home works for Community Bonding period | 14:01 |
| saviet | oh ok | 14:01 |
| saviet | when are you releasing the home work? | 14:02 |
| madrazr | saviet: sure, I will ask Lennard or Sverre to assign some bugs to you, so you can fix them and send the patches | 14:02 |
| madrazr | saviet: there is no question of releasing and all :P | 14:02 |
| saviet | oh ok | 14:02 |
| madrazr | saviet: you can tell us when you have time, i.e once you are done with exams | 14:02 |
| madrazr | saviet: then we can start assigning you work | 14:02 |
| saviet | ok sure | 14:02 |
| saviet | then i will ping you on coming wednesday or thursday regarding this | 14:03 |
| madrazr | yeah sure | 14:03 |
| madrazr | saviet: and are you attending the conference call this Monday? | 14:03 |
| saviet | and you can advice me as to which patch/bug-fix i could take up | 14:03 |
| saviet | yes I am although I am not sure | 14:04 |
| saviet | what exactly I am supposed to do in the form of contribution | 14:04 |
| madrazr | saviet: definitely, I am here to help you. Will help you with patches | 14:04 |
| saviet | ok, but the conference call | 14:04 |
| madrazr | saviet: did not get you, what do you mean? | 14:04 |
| saviet | should we prepare something in advance | 14:05 |
| saviet | what will it be about? | 14:05 |
| madrazr | saviet: not really. Not at least for the next call | 14:05 |
| saviet | ok | 14:05 |
| madrazr | saviet: since you don't have much to talk about | 14:05 |
| madrazr | saviet: but usually conference calls will have all the developers talking about what they worked on previous week and what they will be working on next week | 14:05 |
| saviet | oh ok | 14:05 |
| madrazr | and discuss major issues they are facing, which involves community involvement | 14:06 |
| saviet | ok cool | 14:06 |
| saviet | i'll be there Monday | 14:06 |
| madrazr | saviet: you can attend the call this week to get a feel of it, if you have time | 14:06 |
| madrazr | saviet: great | 14:06 |
| saviet | I think it is in the night right | 14:06 |
| madrazr | just add Lennard and me on Skype, we will call you in | 14:06 |
| madrazr | saviet: Oh yeah | 14:06 |
| madrazr | saviet: it is at a very bad time for you I guess | 14:07 |
| saviet | should be Sunday Night for us on this side of the globe | 14:07 |
| madrazr | saviet: it is at 2AM for you | 14:07 |
| madrazr | saviet: no | 14:07 |
| madrazr | it is Tuesday morning 2AM | 14:07 |
| madrazr | i.e Monday night | 14:07 |
| saviet | oh | 14:07 |
| saviet | ok | 14:07 |
| saviet | tats better actually | 14:07 |
| saviet | :) | 14:08 |
| saviet | cos i have an exam on Monday morning | 14:08 |
| madrazr | by date it is 3rd May 20:00 Central European Summer Time. You can check the date and time for yourself | 14:08 |
| madrazr | saviet: great! | 14:08 |
| madrazr | saviet: but don't kill yourself, if you are too close to the exam. This time take an exemption. Make it only if you have time | 14:08 |
| saviet | ok thanks | 14:09 |
| madrazr | saviet: but after exams, I would strongly suggest you to attend conference calls | 14:09 |
| saviet | but I think i will attend | 14:09 |
| madrazr | saviet: great1 | 14:09 |
| madrazr | ! | 14:09 |
| saviet | as I cannot be studying all the time right :) | 14:09 |
| madrazr | saviet: yeah true :) | 14:09 |
| saviet | this will be nice change from the studying | 14:09 |
| saviet | ok I think i have got a better idea of the project now | 14:10 |
| madrazr | saviet: it will be an awesome experience. Meeting and talking to people who are spread all around the world | 14:10 |
| madrazr | saviet: good | 14:10 |
| saviet | and will def think more about it in terms of design and implementation probably | 14:10 |
| madrazr | good | 14:10 |
| madrazr | saviet: we will have to meet to talk in more detail about the requirements of your project | 14:10 |
| madrazr | saviet: when can we meet next? | 14:10 |
| saviet | wednesday will be great | 14:11 |
| madrazr | saviet: Ok sure, time? | 14:11 |
| saviet | same time as now? | 14:11 |
| madrazr | saviet: works for me I think. If there is any change I will let you know | 14:11 |
| madrazr | saviet: Oh one more thing | 14:11 |
| saviet | ok | 14:11 |
| saviet | yes? | 14:11 |
| madrazr | saviet: I am extremely sorry, slap me | 14:12 |
| saviet | huh, y? | 14:12 |
| madrazr | I thought of telling you at the beginning of the meeting itself, but forgot | 14:12 |
| madrazr | for every meeting we need to make notes and post it somewhere | 14:12 |
| saviet | ok | 14:12 |
| madrazr | either on the Google Code SoC wiki or dev list | 14:12 |
| saviet | ok | 14:13 |
| madrazr | saviet: will it be possible for you to post the notes of this meeting? you can get the logs of this channel here: http://www.thousandparsec.net/~irc/logm/ | 14:13 |
| tpb | Title: IRC logs (at www.thousandparsec.net) | 14:13 |
| saviet | the wiki sounds better | 14:13 |
| madrazr | saviet: great | 14:13 |
| saviet | yes i will post it | 14:13 |
| madrazr | saviet: when will you make the meeting notes available? | 14:13 |
| saviet | by tomorrow? | 14:14 |
| madrazr | saviet: is that fine, because of your exams or you want more time? | 14:14 |
| saviet | meetings notes should basically include what we discusses right | 14:14 |
| madrazr | saviet: thats so all. It should be a summary for others to read | 14:15 |
| saviet | ok | 14:15 |
| madrazr | saviet: let me know before posting. I will tell you where to post | 14:15 |
| saviet | ok sure | 14:15 |
| saviet | :) | 14:16 |
| madrazr | saviet: we will discuss about the requirements of this project in detail in the next week meeting. Be prepared for that based on whatever we discussed today | 14:16 |
| saviet | will ping u when i am done preparing the notes. | 14:16 |
| madrazr | saviet: sure | 14:17 |
| saviet | yes i will prepare :) | 14:17 |
| madrazr | saviet: shall we call this meeting formally off then? | 14:17 |
| saviet | ok | 14:17 |
| madrazr | saviet: good. Feel free to ping me or ask me any questions or help you want, any time either through IRC or GTalk or mail | 14:18 |
| saviet | its a great start and am looking forward to working on this project :) | 14:18 |
| madrazr | saviet: nice :) | 14:18 |
| saviet | ok will do, bye then. | 14:18 |
| madrazr | saviet: sure. bye. Good Luck for rest of your exams | 14:18 |
| saviet | thanks. bye. | 14:19 |
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