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| neo7 | I have posted some of my doubts about melange framework, kindly post a reply on it. | 18:36 |
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| * neo7 is waiting for someone to answer. | 18:38 | |
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| * neo7 waiting for the doubts to be cleared. | 18:44 | |
| MatthewWilkes | neo7: Are you planning to comment every couple of minutes until somebody does? | 18:59 |
| neo7 | MatthewWilkes: no, I was actually having a connection problem on my side, so I thought the message didn't reach. This was the second comment only. | 19:00 |
| neo7 | MatthewWilkes: sorry for the inconvenience :) | 19:01 |
| MatthewWilkes | no problem, we all have connection issues sometimes | 19:01 |
| MatthewWilkes | Where did you post it? I don't recall seeing it | 19:01 |
| neo7 | I posted on the mailing list. | 19:01 |
| MatthewWilkes | which one? melange-dev? | 19:01 |
| neo7 | no. its on melange soc | 19:02 |
| neo7 | should I post the questions on melange dev? | 19:02 |
| neo7 | or is it ok with the melange-soc | 19:02 |
| neo7 | ? | 19:02 |
| MatthewWilkes | I can't see it on melange-soc | 19:03 |
| MatthewWilkes | http://groups.google.com/group/melange-soc | 19:03 |
| tpb | Title: melange-soc | Google Groups (at groups.google.com) | 19:03 |
| MatthewWilkes | unless it was a while ago? | 19:03 |
| neo7 | yes, it was around 10 minutes ago | 19:04 |
| MatthewWilkes | Did you send it from the address you subscribed to? If not, it might be being held for moderation | 19:05 |
| neo7 | yes, it is being held for the moderation. I posted it directly on the Group. | 19:06 |
| MatthewWilkes | Right, you'll have to wait for someone that can moderate to have a look at the queue then | 19:06 |
| neo7 | yes, I am waiting for it. I hope sverre answers it :) | 19:06 |
| neo7 | MatthewWilkes: how many got selected last year, from melange? | 19:08 |
| MatthewWilkes | hmm, let's think, there was dhans and madhu at least | 19:11 |
| MatthewWilkes | There were at least 3. Maybe 4? | 19:12 |
| MatthewWilkes | don't recall exactly, it'll be on socghop though | 19:12 |
| neo7 | yes, I knew about Madhu | 19:13 |
| neo7 | and how many projects out of how many projects got selected? | 19:14 |
| neo7 | any idea about that. | 19:14 |
| neo7 | MatthewWilkes: ? | 19:18 |
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| matthewwilkes_ | neo7: No clue | 19:29 |
| lh | neo7: what is the question? | 19:30 |
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| MatthewWilkes | lh: It was the number of applications to places for melange last year | 19:34 |
| lh | MatthewWilkes: ah. i wish i could recall. I believe it was around 50. | 19:36 |
| MatthewWilkes | That many? Wow! That's great | 19:37 |
| MatthewWilkes | neo7: The limiting factor with melange is that there are very few people who can mentor. There are more this year than last, though. | 19:37 |
| MatthewWilkes | Although, mentor resources are probably the limiting factor for most orgs, now I think about it. | 19:38 |
| lh | MatthewWilkes: exactly correct | 19:38 |
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| MatthewWilkes | lh: There's always going to be too few tuits on projects. I was very happy yesterday to get my 6 month old patch to appengine accepted | 19:40 |
| MatthewWilkes | Once that gets released melange will run on my mac without me manually patching things :) | 19:40 |
| lh | MatthewWilkes: and congratulations to you for that | 19:41 |
| MatthewWilkes | It's all down to the magic of twitter, one of your former coworkers spotted me complaining and poked the correct people | 19:42 |
| lh | nice. i am so glad to hear that. | 19:42 |
| lh | :) | 19:42 |
| lh | which one if i may ask? | 19:42 |
| neo7 | MatthewWilkes: and lh: I patched the header problem. | 19:43 |
| lh | neo7: which bug? | 19:43 |
| neo7 | http://code.google.com/p/soc/source/detail?r=4f96a5979e056c5c6f5bc531cad3d71335a7728b# | 19:43 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/571C> (at code.google.com) | 19:43 |
| MatthewWilkes | lh: Mike Repass spoke to Sean Lynch who set Guido on it | 19:44 |
| lh | woot! | 19:44 |
| lh | neo7: that is a good way to get the melange folks to know about how you work. :) | 19:44 |
| neo7 | thanks ma'am | 19:44 |
| neo7 | BTW my problem was regarding the framework and the block diagram shown on the melange intro page. | 19:46 |
| neo7 | I wanted to know about the generic controllers. | 19:46 |
| neo7 | and about the technical details on it. | 19:46 |
| lh | neo7: i wish i understood all that. keep an eye out for srabbelier and lennie | 19:48 |
| neo7 | yes, I am keeping it. | 19:48 |
| madrazr | MatthewWilkes: tell me that one solves the problem we have with our functional tests and I jump and dance, phew phew :P | 20:45 |
| MatthewWilkes | madrazr: No, this is a 2 liner. The ftesting one is about 150 lines, but now I know who to talk to it might be possible to get it done | 20:47 |
| madrazr | MatthewWilkes: that will be awesome cool! :) | 20:47 |
| MatthewWilkes | I kinda suspect they don't want the dev_appserver to get better because it encourages people to use the real system, but that's unfounded ;) | 20:49 |
| madrazr | MatthewWilkes: LoL! I must say, I quite don't understand that logic at all | 20:51 |
| madrazr | I think I must log out now, battery is draining and no power supply here atm, see you people | 20:53 |
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| * Erant pokes SRabbelier | 23:06 | |
| SRabbelier | Erant: whadoyawant | 23:06 |
| Erant | I found moar fail | 23:07 |
| Erant | You're not checking the write rights on overwrite of a document | 23:07 |
| Erant | As in, I can't edit a certain document because I'm not in the admin group, but it'll let me overwrite it just fine. (It also doesn't warn when you're trying to overwrite, fwiw) | 23:07 |
| MatthewWilkes | Erant: How is overwrite different to edit? | 23:08 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: ah, so you pretend to create, then re-use the link-id? | 23:08 |
| MatthewWilkes | ah | 23:09 |
| Erant | MatthewWilkes: 'Overwrite' means create a new document with the same link_id. Edit means use the editor | 23:09 |
| Erant | Right | 23:09 |
| * Erant goes to file bug | 23:09 | |
| SRabbelier | Erant: cute hack :) | 23:09 |
| Erant | I'm reaching at this point. :P Slowly but surely running out of things to try. | 23:10 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: rtc :D | 23:12 |
| Erant | If you see him, tell Lennie I'm sorry I killed his home_page document. :P | 23:14 |
| SRabbelier | aaaawr | 23:15 |
| SRabbelier | meany :D | 23:15 |
| SRabbelier | his poor document | 23:15 |
| SRabbelier | I'm sure it's family is mourning | 23:15 |
| Erant | Undoubtably. I made a new one though! :P | 23:15 |
| MatthewWilkes | Erant: is it better? | 23:16 |
| Erant | It's interesting how an overwrite doesn't modify the creation date. | 23:16 |
| Erant | MatthewWilkes: 'Different' :P My tests have a high content of 'buh' 'blip, blop, blap' and especially 'stuff'. | 23:17 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: it's because we call CreateOrUpdate | 23:21 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: iow, since you didn't explicitly modify the creation data, it isn't changed | 23:21 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: (the creation data is an "auto" property) | 23:21 |
| Erant | Ah, k | 23:28 |
| Erant | Wait, the timestamp is sent from the client? | 23:28 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: no, it's _not_ | 23:29 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: it's automatically set by Appengine | 23:29 |
| Erant | Oooh, like so. | 23:29 |
| MatthewWilkes | oooh *thought* | 23:34 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: http://cappuccino.org/discuss/2010/03/01/internet-explorer-global-variables-and-stack-overflows/ | 23:34 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/58zX> (at cappuccino.org) | 23:34 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: IE needs to diaf | 23:34 |
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| Erant | It's why you don't use it, obv. | 23:39 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: hehe ^^ | 23:39 |
| MatthewWilkes | urgh, 500 error on register as a student - is there a workaround? | 23:49 |
| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: ^^^ or is it even a known problem? | 23:52 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: depends on the 500, is it one from AppEngine? | 23:53 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: or is it a Melange error page? | 23:53 |
| MatthewWilkes | App engine | 23:53 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: ah, nope | 23:53 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: I see the error | 23:53 |
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| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: (in the logs) | 23:53 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: please report it as an issue, I'll attach the traceback | 23:54 |
| MatthewWilkes | ok | 23:54 |
| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=744 | 23:56 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/58zu> (at code.google.com) | 23:56 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: awesome, thank you | 23:57 |
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