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| Lennie | hi | 13:25 |
| durin42 | hi | 13:25 |
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| solydzajs | hi | 13:27 |
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| Lennie | dr__house: :) | 13:39 |
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| Lennie | how's your buddy doing :P? | 13:39 |
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| dr__house | Lennie: he's doing fine, he's here.. How are you doing madrazr? :P | 13:49 |
| Lennie | I know he's here :D | 13:50 |
| Lennie | just wanted your opinion | 13:50 |
| dr__house | Lennie: on what? | 13:50 |
| Lennie | on how he's doing :P | 13:50 |
| dr__house | sorry, not getting your point | 13:50 |
| Lennie | dr__house: Ready for the new season of House next Monday :)? | 13:51 |
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| dr__house | Lennie: he seems to be doing well. The last I checked he was pretty healthy | 13:51 |
| dr__house | Lennie: hell yeah! | 13:51 |
| Lennie | good :D | 13:51 |
| madrazr | thu! House here too :( | 13:51 |
| Lennie | www.snakesonacane.com if I remember correctly | 13:51 |
| madrazr | dr__house: you must be banished :P | 13:51 |
| dr__house | Lennie: can't wait. Hugh Laurie shortened hair and in an asylum | 13:52 |
| Lennie | :D | 13:52 |
| dr__house | Lennie: the trailers look very interesting! | 13:52 |
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| Lennie | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220469391505 | 13:56 |
| Lennie | wowness :) | 13:56 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/4BXl> (at cgi.ebay.com) | 13:56 |
| Lennie | 9.1k for charity | 13:56 |
| dr__house | Lennie: WOW! | 13:57 |
| madrazr | Lennie: wowow! I did not know there was so much fan following ;-) | 13:57 |
| dr__house | madrazr: you greatly underestimate dr__house's powers! | 13:58 |
| SRabbelier | Heya | 13:58 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: Heya! | 13:58 |
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| madrazr | 18:00 UTC I guess :P | 13:59 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: Lennie: SRabbelier: ping | 13:59 |
| solydzajs | pong | 13:59 |
| SRabbelier | pong :) | 13:59 |
| Lennie | waiting on LH :) | 13:59 |
| SRabbelier | she'll be a little late | 13:59 |
| SRabbelier | as she's waiting to get through security | 13:59 |
| durin42 | security? | 14:00 |
| Lennie | airport? | 14:00 |
| SRabbelier | yeah | 14:00 |
| durin42 | ah | 14:00 |
| SRabbelier | she's going to get online from the airport hallway apparently :P | 14:00 |
| Lennie | hmm | 14:01 |
| Lennie | lovely planning :D | 14:01 |
| madrazr | :) | 14:01 |
| SRabbelier | indeed | 14:01 |
| Lennie | ok | 14:02 |
| Lennie | who's here for GHOP :)? | 14:02 |
| Lennie | I know I am :p | 14:02 |
| * Corydon76-dig raises hand | 14:02 | |
| SRabbelier | :D | 14:02 |
| * madrazr raises his hand too | 14:03 | |
| Corydon76-dig | (Asterisk project) | 14:03 |
| madrazr | Corydon76-dig: welcome! | 14:03 |
| Lennie | Corydon76-dig: what brought you here :D? | 14:04 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: SJC has really good wireless | 14:04 |
| Lennie | (since you are the only one raising your hand I'm ging to question you :D) | 14:04 |
| Corydon76-dig | LH's email to the gsoc mentors list | 14:04 |
| gertv | I'm here for the GHOP meeting too, from the asf | 14:04 |
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| Lennie | Gert, sounds dutch | 14:05 |
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| Lennie | oh look | 14:05 |
| Lennie | hi LH :) | 14:05 |
| Corydon76-dig | lh: yay! | 14:05 |
| madrazr | lh: heya! | 14:05 |
| lh | hello folks, sorry i am late | 14:05 |
| lh | how are all of you? | 14:05 |
| Corydon76-dig | It's open source time! | 14:05 |
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| Lennie | busy, but okay ^^ | 14:06 |
| madrazr | lh: doing good! | 14:06 |
| lh | Lennie: i hear you | 14:06 |
| gertv | Lennie, from Belgium actually, but close enough ;) | 14:06 |
| lh | madrazr: great! | 14:06 |
| lh | ok let's get down to business | 14:06 |
| Lennie | Samson en Gert ftw :P | 14:06 |
| lh | would someone please log this meeting? | 14:06 |
| Lennie | channel is logged afaik | 14:06 |
| lh | and can we also get a volunteer to send out notes to the melange-soc list | 14:06 |
| durin42 | I can post my irssi logs if you want. | 14:06 |
| lh | great, then can someone volunteer to post logs | 14:06 |
| lh | durin42: awesome thank you | 14:07 |
| lh | notes, anyone? | 14:07 |
| madrazr | lh: me | 14:07 |
| * durin42 glad to be of assistance (AUGIE: LOGS START HERE) | 14:07 | |
| lh | madrazr: wonderful thank you | 14:07 |
| lh | so folks, welcome, we're here to discuss what needs to happen with melange in order to make it possible for us to run our open source for pre-university students program again, GHOP | 14:07 |
| lh | i believe that lennie is working on getting a test instance together for folks, but that is still in process. | 14:08 |
| Lennie | hmm | 14:08 |
| solydzajs | yay! | 14:08 |
| Lennie | melange-demo.appspot.com | 14:08 |
| solydzajs | instance is live right ? | 14:08 |
| Lennie | yeah it is ^^ | 14:08 |
| solydzajs | ok | 14:08 |
| Lennie | mail has gone out 15 min ago | 14:08 |
| solydzajs | yep | 14:08 |
| lh | Lennie: rock. we talked yesterday and it wasn't ready. can you explain what the issues are? | 14:08 |
| lh | Lennie: ah, cool. 15 minutes ago i was in the security line at sfo. | 14:08 |
| lh | Lennie: so test instance is ready. what are the particular areas that need testing first? | 14:08 |
| Lennie | Issues related to organizatoin home pages | 14:08 |
| Lennie | still hard to see which tasks are open, therefore testing the Organization side first | 14:09 |
| lh | Lennie: are these documented and you have a pointer to those docs or can you explain now | 14:09 |
| Lennie | lh: no they are not documented, but should have been fixed by SRabbelier like 5 min ago :P | 14:09 |
| Lennie | still have to test/push them | 14:09 |
| lh | Lennie: ok. so how do folks go about getting an account, creating tasks, etc. - can't see if they are open if they aren't any tasks in there right? | 14:10 |
| Lennie | anyhow a new thread will appear on the melange-dev Google Groups list where you can ask for mentor access after you've created your account | 14:10 |
| lh | Lennie: ah lovely. SRabbelier thanks! | 14:10 |
| Lennie | for a standard account they can register on melange-demo.appspot.com the same way most of them did for GSoC2009 | 14:10 |
| lh | Lennie: ok. so folks create an account and get mentor access. at that point is it visible in the UI how they begin to create tasks or is that still hidden? | 14:10 |
| Lennie | For mentor access they need to drop a mail on the mailing list | 14:11 |
| Lennie | at that point onward | 14:11 |
| Lennie | they should be able to see the UI for suggesting a new task | 14:11 |
| Lennie | and viewing the tasks of their organziation | 14:11 |
| Lennie | and do the actions with those Tasks they need to do | 14:11 |
| lh | Lennie: that's terrific and newly fixed right? fantastic. | 14:11 |
| Lennie | post comments etc | 14:11 |
| lh | Lennie: are we far enough along for folks to be able to view things from the student perspective, or not there yet? | 14:12 |
| Lennie | once a task they created or others | 14:12 |
| lh | e.g. if i create a task list, can i then have a student account and go claim that task, then log back in as a mentor and comment, etc.? | 14:12 |
| Lennie | has been published by an org admin | 14:12 |
| Lennie | they can give that link to a buddy | 14:12 |
| Lennie | or have a 2nd account | 14:12 |
| Lennie | and then do whatever a student does with that task | 14:12 |
| Lennie | a list of all task is not yet up | 14:12 |
| Lennie | but we're getting closer due to SRabbelier fixes on the document system | 14:13 |
| lh | Ok. So it sounds like that's a pretty important action item. Is that something you folks could get help with? | 14:13 |
| SRabbelier | Lennie: lol, my fixes weren't that impressive :P | 14:13 |
| Lennie | one TODO for GHOP is still a big list of tasks which is at least partly searchable | 14:13 |
| Lennie | SRabbelier: but they sure helped :P | 14:13 |
| Lennie | atleast I hope so | 14:13 |
| Lennie | It is an item on the TODO list so yes | 14:13 |
| SRabbelier | Lennie: I haven't tested the GHOP side as I didn't know how, but the old access code still works | 14:13 |
| lh | Lennie: link to the to do list? | 14:14 |
| SRabbelier | Lennie: and the GHOP code should work, :P | 14:14 |
| Lennie | some info on test instance: http://groups.google.com/group/melange-soc/browse_thread/thread/4cf2484d7967b97d | 14:14 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/4BYT> (at groups.google.com) | 14:14 |
| Lennie | http://code.google.com/p/soc/wiki/GHOPTODO | 14:14 |
| tpb | Title: GHOPTODO - soc - This page lists all the TODOs for running GHOP program. - Project Hosting on Google Code (at code.google.com) | 14:14 |
| Lennie | that's the TODO list :) | 14:14 |
| madrazr | lh: http://code.google.com/p/soc/wiki/GHOPTODO | 14:14 |
| madrazr | Lennie: you beat me :P | 14:14 |
| lh | fabulous, and the instructions look great. | 14:15 |
| Lennie | it is an Open wiki | 14:15 |
| Lennie | so anybody who wants to document anything can do it | 14:15 |
| lh | you mention you want people to file bugs, is there a wiki page to discuss who wants to sign up for particular work? | 14:15 |
| lh | i assume then it's the GHOPTODO page? | 14:15 |
| dreimark | can it be an issue list in melange too? so that this all the time tested by everyone? | 14:16 |
| Lennie | dreimark: What do you mean by that? | 14:16 |
| dreimark | similiar to a student task list | 14:16 |
| SRabbelier | hehe, nice idea | 14:17 |
| SRabbelier | convert the TODO list into Melange GHOP task items | 14:17 |
| Lennie | would be nice to move it there some day | 14:17 |
| Lennie | however | 14:17 |
| Lennie | the data on melange-demo might be wiped at any time | 14:17 |
| Lennie | and those items aren't editable by everyone | 14:18 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: but I guess most of them must be fixed before GHOP? :P | 14:18 |
| Lennie | so really the wiki is the best place | 14:18 |
| lh | So Lennie who can walk us through the to do list, explain a bit more about each TODO item? | 14:18 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: yes, but it would be good for testing :) | 14:18 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: ah yeah | 14:18 |
| lh | We may be able to find owners for some of these tasks now, and if not we have notes later for folks who take up the charge. | 14:18 |
| Lennie | one sec | 14:19 |
| Lennie | I think Madhu wants to run to the TODO list | 14:19 |
| madrazr | lh: I will explain them | 14:19 |
| Lennie | since he has been the one to update it | 14:19 |
| lh | madrazr: that's fabulous, go for it | 14:20 |
| madrazr | to start with we have 2 items for GHOP as the extremely high priority items, (both of which were my tasks for GSoC 2009) | 14:20 |
| madrazr | but I could not finish it because of time shortage | 14:20 |
| madrazr | we want User Documents for all the 5 roles we allow through the system | 14:21 |
| madrazr | Program Admin, Org Admins, Mentors, Students and General Public (people with or without login) on how to use the system | 14:21 |
| madrazr | hope that should be clear? | 14:21 |
| madrazr | please stop me if something is not clear | 14:21 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: yes | 14:21 |
| lh | madrazr: if we don't get any luck here, i can ask my friend noirin shirley - she wanted to help with documentation previously and was a ghop mentor last year | 14:21 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: do you meant soc.models.document, or documentation? | 14:21 |
| lh | Any documentation experts in the house? | 14:22 |
| solydzajs | basically we need to write documentation :-) | 14:22 |
| madrazr | lh: that would be awesome! | 14:22 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: documentation | 14:22 |
| madrazr | it has nothing to do with Melange code | 14:22 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: ok, :) | 14:22 |
| SRabbelier | gotcha | 14:22 |
| lh | ok. | 14:22 |
| lh | i think right now mostly coders are among us. :) | 14:22 |
| madrazr | lh: Ok :) | 14:23 |
| lh | so let's table documentation for the moment, i will follow up with Noirin to see if she has time. | 14:23 |
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| madrazr | SRabbelier: secondly (this item will go on that TODO list soonish, but not there now). We want tests to be written. Especially Unit tests for logic and views | 14:23 |
| lh | If someone isn't a coder is it going to be obvious enough to them how to use the system so they can actually create documentation? | 14:23 |
| madrazr | lh: sure | 14:23 |
| * schmrz hopes he's not too late :D | 14:23 | |
| madrazr | lh: yeah | 14:23 |
| SRabbelier | schmrz: you're not :) | 14:23 |
| madrazr | ouch above one related to tests was for all | 14:23 |
| madrazr | not just to SRabbelier | 14:23 |
| schmrz | good :) | 14:23 |
| lh | madrazr: ok good to know. if need be i will take that one once performance reviews are done at the big-G | 14:24 |
| lh | testing mercenaries anyone? | 14:24 |
| madrazr | lh: Ok | 14:24 |
| durin42 | I'll allocate some of my time to Fix Buildbot Again | 14:24 |
| madrazr | lh: did not get you | 14:24 |
| durin42 | to at least make the state of whatever tests there are easier to verify | 14:24 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: thanks :) | 14:25 |
| lh | madrazr: I mean folks who are expert at testing or love testing? | 14:25 |
| madrazr | lh: Oh Ok | 14:25 |
| lh | schmrz: Is there a Python group for testing experts where we can find help with this task? | 14:25 |
| schmrz | Ih: I don't really know. | 14:26 |
| lh | schmrz: ok noted. i will ask titus. | 14:26 |
| durin42 | Titus runs a testing-in-python list. | 14:26 |
| lh | that sounds like just the place | 14:26 |
| durin42 | That's where I'd start | 14:26 |
| schmrz | And as much as I noticed he said he can get some expert help on that field :) | 14:27 |
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| lh | fabulous | 14:27 |
| lh | sounds like we have some ideas on where to start. | 14:27 |
| lh | so madrazr who's the expert on what tests are needed so we can tell folks who to ping? | 14:28 |
| madrazr | lh: did not get you | 14:29 |
| lh | madrazr: if someone wants to write tests but has questions, who should they ask? | 14:29 |
| Lennie | SRabbelier: would you mind :P? | 14:29 |
| madrazr | lh: they can ask me, but I am not an expert, but if SRabbelier and Lennie can volunteer | 14:29 |
| SRabbelier | Lennie: no problem :) | 14:30 |
| lh | okey dokey that helps a lot | 14:30 |
| solydzajs | They can ask on melange-dev | 14:30 |
| lh | :) | 14:30 |
| solydzajs | and Lennie, SRabbelier and me will try to reply asap | 14:30 |
| lh | solydzajs: sure, but it helps to hand out an irc handle | 14:30 |
| madrazr | lh: that is best, or on this channel | 14:30 |
| lh | madrazr: what's next? | 14:30 |
| solydzajs | right | 14:30 |
| solydzajs | I will be on IRC too | 14:31 |
| madrazr | lh: the next item on the list is Task Subscription thingie | 14:31 |
| madrazr | but Lennie has fixed it a couple hours back I think | 14:31 |
| madrazr | so we can skip that for now | 14:31 |
| Lennie | refresh your wiki page :P? | 14:31 |
| schmrz | Where are the irc logs again ? (the ones at thousandparsec) | 14:31 |
| Lennie | I moved it to done :D | 14:31 |
| ThomasWaldmann | moin | 14:31 |
| SRabbelier | http://www.thousandparsec.net/~irc/logm/ | 14:31 |
| tpb | Title: IRC logs (at www.thousandparsec.net) | 14:31 |
| Lennie | some intereseting todo is blocking certain actions | 14:32 |
| madrazr | yeah | 14:32 |
| Lennie | based on the timeline of a program | 14:32 |
| lh | Lennie: what's the blocking to do | 14:32 |
| lh | ThomasWaldmann: hi | 14:32 |
| Lennie | such as making sure that a task cannot be claimed after a certain data/time | 14:32 |
| Lennie | *date | 14:32 |
| Lennie | that no solution to a Task can be submitted after the date/time set in the settings of a program | 14:33 |
| madrazr | and student should not allowed to submit work post STOP ALL WORK deadline etc | 14:33 |
| Lennie | A very big TODO is some kind of searchable list of tasks | 14:34 |
| lh | yeah that's a pretty big blocker | 14:34 |
| * ThomasWaldmann .oO(at moin we use py.test for unit tests) | 14:34 | |
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| lh | Ok, one to do at a time. | 14:34 |
| lh | Is anyone excited about the timeline stuff? | 14:34 |
| Lennie | ok ^^ | 14:34 |
| lh | solydzajs: you did all the work on the timeline back end before right? is this something that you can take on? | 14:34 |
| Lennie | actually that was mostly me :P | 14:35 |
| Lennie | iirc | 14:35 |
| solydzajs | I can work on that, I can discuss it with Lennie and Madhu in more details | 14:35 |
| solydzajs | after the meeting | 14:35 |
| lh | Lennie: sorry | 14:36 |
| lh | ok | 14:36 |
| lh | so we have an owner for timeline stuff | 14:36 |
| madrazr | lh: cool! | 14:36 |
| lh | Searchable list of all tasks. | 14:36 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: cool! thanks | 14:36 |
| lh | That one is *really* important or students can't really do work. | 14:36 |
| Lennie | well | 14:36 |
| Lennie | we want to keep that one pretty simple | 14:36 |
| lh | Can we break down a bit more what needs to happen with this? | 14:36 |
| Lennie | since we hope to replace it by a fully searchable list before GHOP starts | 14:37 |
| lh | Lennie: Certainly, but it needs to be there. | 14:37 |
| Lennie | yes | 14:37 |
| lh | Lennie: i am not betting on anything being replaced by anything. at the very least, a list of all tasks per org. if students have to search through it that sucks, but then again they want the t-shirt | 14:37 |
| Lennie | at least some form of searching on tags | 14:37 |
| Lennie | and listing all claimable tasks for that tag | 14:37 |
| Lennie | lh: that list | 14:37 |
| Lennie | is on their home page | 14:38 |
| Lennie | as soon as the documents are working :) | 14:38 |
| Lennie | which might be today if all turns out to be okay :) | 14:38 |
| lh | Lennie: ah, so this is a contest wide list of tasks, like show me all user interface tasks for ghop | 14:38 |
| Lennie | yes | 14:38 |
| Lennie | indeed | 14:38 |
| lh | that would be awesome. | 14:39 |
| lh | So can you break down a bit more what needs to be done there? | 14:40 |
| madrazr | lh: we also have pointers for it | 14:40 |
| Lennie | I believe Madhu has something | 14:40 |
| lh | madrazr: pointer? | 14:40 |
| madrazr | Lennie: and I had discussed this task during my GSoC project. I have also have some code to start with on which any one who claims this task can build upon | 14:40 |
| lh | madrazr: ah ha. work in progress! :) | 14:40 |
| madrazr | lh: yes, this will be an interesting task and also have some starting point for it | 14:41 |
| lh | will any of this be helped by the work that mario was going to do on ajaxy list search? | 14:41 |
| Lennie | no | 14:41 |
| Lennie | that will replace the need for this | 14:41 |
| Lennie | however | 14:41 |
| Lennie | I have no idea when that will be done | 14:41 |
| Lennie | since it will require a lot of work to integrate a new solution | 14:42 |
| Lennie | As said a somewhat simpler solution is fine by me | 14:42 |
| Lennie | searching on one tag | 14:42 |
| Lennie | etc | 14:42 |
| Lennie | which seems to be doable | 14:42 |
| lh | ok | 14:43 |
| lh | Since I don't see anyone jumping up and down screaming oh goodness yes I want to do that!! | 14:43 |
| lh | What are the other tasks? | 14:43 |
| Lennie | Madhu :) | 14:44 |
| madrazr | Lennie: typing... | 14:44 |
| madrazr | we want to be able to see for each participating student, the number of tasks he failed to complete | 14:44 |
| madrazr | i.e the number of tasks that were reopened, by claimed by a particular student | 14:45 |
| lh | ok. | 14:45 |
| Lennie | sorry can we table that one for now :D | 14:45 |
| madrazr | Ok | 14:45 |
| lh | yeah i think that one is less important. reporting is for after the contest, right now we want to make the contest happen. | 14:45 |
| lh | Are there any other items gating GHOP happening? | 14:46 |
| lh | As I see it | 14:46 |
| lh | testing is not gating the contest running, though we certainly need tests | 14:46 |
| madrazr | lh: yeah | 14:46 |
| lh | listing tasks on org home pages *is* gating the contest, but SRabbelier has some fixes for that in | 14:46 |
| Lennie | actually testing will help the contest run more smoothly in the face of changes :P | 14:46 |
| lh | documentation is gating the contest, but that can be created. | 14:46 |
| Lennie | but that's a software engineering view on life :) | 14:46 |
| * madrazr seconds Lennie | 14:47 | |
| lh | Lennie: there's happening and happening smoothly. i want it to happen period. smoothly would be terrific. | 14:47 |
| lh | test mercenaries needed. | 14:47 |
| Lennie | we have the task quota assignment for each org | 14:47 |
| Lennie | which need to be done by the Google Task API | 14:47 |
| lh | there's the timeline blocker, but solydzajs has offered to do that | 14:47 |
| Lennie | instead of the loop in the POST request we have now | 14:47 |
| * ThomasWaldmann currently thinks about whether there will be some automated ghop task pushing interface this time. | 14:47 | |
| * lh notes that solydzajs did the calendar picker widget, not timeline, no wonder she was confused | 14:47 | |
| madrazr | ThomasWaldmann: automatic pushing? | 14:48 |
| solydzajs | I think we should ask a question who would like to help with tests who with documentation, who with coding, it's a question to all meeting participants | 14:48 |
| Lennie | ThomasWaldmann: is on the wishlist | 14:48 |
| solydzajs | that way we will have an idea who to talk with regarding those 3 | 14:48 |
| ThomasWaldmann | e.g. if you prepare tasks on your wiki and then want to transfer them | 14:48 |
| Lennie | madrazr: CSV upload | 14:48 |
| madrazr | ThomasWaldmann: Lennie: Ok | 14:48 |
| madrazr | ThomasWaldmann: we want that AFAIK, thats one item on TODO, not appearing on Wiki right now | 14:49 |
| schmrz | solydzajs: I hope to help with coding and documenting the process of finding a way around in the codebase. | 14:49 |
| solydzajs | so for example I want to help with coding mostly and testing UI and functionality (not writing tests). | 14:49 |
| madrazr | there were a lot of people who asked this before GSoC started, when we were in design phase | 14:49 |
| solydzajs | schmrz: ok awesome | 14:49 |
| Lennie | ThomasWaldmann: the biggest problem is that afaik we can't really store too large CSV's | 14:49 |
| Lennie | and that we need some way of processing it correctly of course | 14:50 |
| ThomasWaldmann | CSV? | 14:50 |
| Lennie | some easy to parse format | 14:50 |
| Lennie | you can't just upload your wiki :P | 14:50 |
| Lennie | not everyone uses the same wiki format | 14:50 |
| ThomasWaldmann | how about xmlrpc? | 14:50 |
| Lennie | we don't use wiki format | 14:51 |
| schmrz | Lennie: But we might be :) | 14:51 |
| ThomasWaldmann | i am not talking about using wiki pages as is, but about SOME automated way to get data into melange without mimicking a human user | 14:51 |
| solydzajs | ThomasWaldmann: we want to keep it simple, we don't want to write xmlrpc API just for task upload | 14:51 |
| Lennie | schmrz: yes, depends on your progress :D | 14:51 |
| SRabbelier | ThomasWaldmann: JSON? :) | 14:52 |
| Corydon76-dig | I've always preferred tab-delimited, but then again, I'm a database guy | 14:52 |
| Lennie | lets continue :P | 14:52 |
| madrazr | :) | 14:52 |
| Lennie | if you want to do this ThomasWaldmann we can discuss how to later | 14:52 |
| Lennie | or on the list | 14:52 |
| ThomasWaldmann | SRabbelier: whatever. xmlrpclib is in py stdlib. :) | 14:52 |
| Corydon76-dig | bikeshed? | 14:52 |
| madrazr | Corydon76-dig: I was about to use the same word :P | 14:53 |
| Lennie | madrazr: other TODO's? | 14:53 |
| Corydon76-dig | Red. Definitely red. | 14:53 |
| madrazr | coming.. | 14:54 |
| madrazr | next, one easy task, but of high priority. We allow Org Admins to Approve the tasks created by mentors and Publish tasks created by himself or other mentors which opens the task for public view | 14:54 |
| madrazr | i.e for students to be claimed | 14:54 |
| madrazr | we have GMail like interface to approve and publish the tasks in one go, i.e a list of tasks with check box and a button, "Approve and Publish" | 14:55 |
| madrazr | this does approve and publish in one go | 14:55 |
| schmrz | Are there any other requirements for the document system except revisioning ? | 14:55 |
| madrazr | this single button must be separated into 2 separate buttons | 14:55 |
| madrazr | fairly simple | 14:55 |
| Lennie | schmrz: other time, maybe other place :P | 14:55 |
| Lennie | actually two buttons must be added :D | 14:55 |
| madrazr | ah right :D | 14:56 |
| Lennie | and it must also make use of the Google Task API | 14:56 |
| Lennie | instead of eating the users time :) | 14:56 |
| lh | everyone, sorry i have to go and board a plane. | 14:57 |
| lh | but this discussion is good, keep it up | 14:57 |
| lh | i'll reach out to noirin and titus - i would suggest trying to find folks to work on specific tasks on the mailing list for things that aren't assigned in this meeting | 14:58 |
| madrazr | Lennie: we are almost done with the current list of TODO we have right? | 14:58 |
| lh | be well! | 14:58 |
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| Lennie | madrazr: almost not quite | 14:59 |
| Lennie | but | 14:59 |
| Lennie | anyone wants to work on the publish/accept functionality? | 14:59 |
| Lennie | madrazr: would you mind :)? Since it is closely related to notifications deletion anyway :D | 15:01 |
| madrazr | Lennie: NP at all | 15:01 |
| madrazr | I am doing it | 15:01 |
| Lennie | lets do this the other way around ^_^ | 15:03 |
| Lennie | is there anyone who thinks he has time to help out :D? | 15:03 |
| spencer_davis | me | 15:03 |
| Lennie | spencer_davis: what are your areas of interest :D? | 15:03 |
| spencer_davis | I'm not really sure | 15:04 |
| spencer_davis | I have been doing a lot of django stuff so I could possibly help with something there | 15:05 |
| madrazr | spencer_davis: at least coding, tests, documentation and if coding is it Python or CSS or AJAX and JS? | 15:05 |
| diones | DEM smiles | 15:05 |
| Lennie | django is nice :) | 15:05 |
| spencer_davis | coding, (python/django) | 15:05 |
| * ThomasWaldmann is rather busy with moin, but if someone wants coding style comments, I can do that. :D | 15:05 | |
| spencer_davis | and I have done some app engine but not much | 15:06 |
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| SRabbelier | diones: DEM? | 15:07 |
| diones | them :D | 15:07 |
| diones | uh | 15:08 |
| diones | It doesn't work with those though | 15:08 |
| Lennie | spencer_davis: you can always look around on the demo site or see if a TODO item is something for you :D | 15:08 |
| spencer_davis | I am looking through the todo list now | 15:08 |
| durin42 | (someone please be sure to tell me when the meeting is done, so I can be sure to stop the log at the right time) | 15:08 |
| solydzajs | durin42: +1 | 15:09 |
| Lennie | spencer_davis: We must be able to display number of tasks that an organization can set out for contestants on Organization home page or public page or both. | 15:09 |
| Lennie | seems to be clearly a template issue | 15:09 |
| Lennie | SRabbelier: Do you know any Django specific issues? | 15:09 |
| Lennie | SRabbelier: If he really wants something interesting there is stuff like URL registration, proper form validation | 15:10 |
| Lennie | although not really easy | 15:10 |
| SRabbelier | Lennie: hmmm, nothing truly Django specific, since everything ties in with our own code; but as you said, URL registration and form validation is at least Django related :) | 15:11 |
| ThomasWaldmann | (also, if some "internal" task CRUD interface exists, I could do a xmlrpc interface for it) | 15:11 |
| Lennie | there is some form of CRUD there | 15:14 |
| schmrz | I need to go now, see you all later ;) | 15:14 |
| Lennie | later schmrz | 15:15 |
| madrazr | schmrz: see you. | 15:15 |
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| Lennie | sandy|lurk: I'll fix the bug you reported today | 15:15 |
| Lennie | really stupid :P | 15:15 |
| madrazr | Lennie: he he :D | 15:15 |
| Lennie | Is there anyone who has questions about GHOP? Or where he/she can help out? | 15:15 |
| madrazr | Lennie: JIT? :P | 15:15 |
| Lennie | JTL :P | 15:16 |
| madrazr | :) | 15:16 |
| Lennie | I guess it is late in some parts of the world :D | 15:17 |
| Lennie | please visit melange-demo.appspot.com and break it :) | 15:17 |
| Lennie | and fix it :D | 15:17 |
| Lennie | It will make GHOP happen :) | 15:17 |
| Lennie | (can someone change the topic back to what it was?) | 15:17 |
| Lennie | durin42: YOU CAN STOP LOGGING :P | 15:17 |
| madrazr | thanks everyone for joining :) | 15:18 |
| durin42 | Lennie: Thanks! | 15:18 |
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| Lennie | yeah thakns :D | 15:18 |
| durin42 | Lennie: where should I put the log? | 15:18 |
| Lennie | mailing list should be fine | 15:19 |
| madrazr | dr__house: any help with testing? :P | 15:19 |
| *** SRabbelier changes topic to "Melange powers the Google Summer of Code 2009 site - Want to contribute? Start here: http://code.google.com/p/soc/wiki/GettingStarted - GHOP Meeting on the 18th, 18:00 UTC - Demo is running at http://melange-demo.appspot.com - Logs at http://www.thousandparsec.net/~irc/logm/" | 15:19 | |
| madrazr | dr__house: I know you are good at breaking things :D | 15:19 |
| madrazr | dr__house: so please break our code, it is an open challenge to you :D | 15:19 |
| *** Lennie changes topic to "Melange powers the Google Summer of Code 2009 site - Want to contribute? Start here: http://code.google.com/p/soc/wiki/GettingStarted - Demo is running at http://melange-demo.appspot.com - Logs at http://www.thousandparsec.net/~irc/logm/" | 15:19 | |
| dr__house | madrazr: well, if you want to get help. Then that is certainly not a way to do it :P | 15:19 |
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| madrazr | dr__house: to fix the bug, we first need to know what the bug is(and thats what I am referring to as breaking) :P | 15:20 |
| * dr__house gives madrazr a suspicious look. | 15:21 | |
| dr__house | fine will do it | 15:21 |
| dr__house | :P | 15:21 |
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| Lennie | Pawel | 15:29 |
| Lennie | you wanted to discuss something? | 15:29 |
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| durin42 | Lennie: upload a file to the list, or just email the log inline to the list? | 15:31 |
| Lennie | whatever you feel comfortable with | 15:33 |
| Lennie | solydzajs: :) | 15:36 |
| solydzajs | Lennie: yes ? | 15:36 |
| Lennie | You wanted to discuss something? | 15:37 |
| solydzajs | Lennie: I will check the timeline issue and if I have any questions will ping you | 15:37 |
| Lennie | sure | 15:37 |
| Lennie | Madhy | 15:42 |
| Lennie | madrazr: is it Saturday? | 15:42 |
| madrazr | Lennie: yes | 15:42 |
| Lennie | you know | 15:42 |
| Lennie | "Talk like a pirate day" | 15:42 |
| madrazr | Lennie: what does that mean? :P | 15:43 |
| Lennie | google it :P | 15:43 |
| madrazr | Lennie: doing the same :P | 15:43 |
| madrazr | Oho! | 15:43 |
| madrazr | there is a website also :P | 15:43 |
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| madrazr | Lennie: interesting | 15:45 |
| madrazr | reading their website | 15:45 |
| Lennie | sandy|lurk: you can try and suggest a task again :p | 15:47 |
| Lennie | there is a new version online | 15:47 |
| madrazr | Lennie: so are we observing/celebrating Talk Like a Pirate day? ;-) | 15:50 |
| * madrazr votes up :P | 15:51 | |
| Lennie | I am | 15:51 |
| Lennie | you can download Monkey Island Chapter 1 for free :) | 15:51 |
| madrazr | Lennie: Oh Ok. I am doing it right away :P | 15:52 |
| madrazr | dr__house: you must see this :P | 15:52 |
| Lennie | Yarr! | 15:52 |
| dr__house | madrazr: seeing :P | 15:52 |
| madrazr | dr__house: thats awefome right? :P | 15:53 |
| Lennie | Aye, me parrot concurs | 15:53 |
| Lennie | :) | 15:53 |
| Lennie | anyhow | 15:53 |
| * dr__house wants a bottle of rum to get started! | 15:53 | |
| Lennie | I still have to wait 2 hours : | 15:53 |
| madrazr | Lennie: he he he, you already have learnt so many words :P | 15:53 |
| Lennie | Arrr, it takes a lot o' training :) | 15:54 |
| madrazr | Lennie: Aye! | 15:55 |
| * durin42 is glad TLaPD is on a saturday, so no work | 15:58 | |
| Lennie | durin42: :D | 16:00 |
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| durin42 | Lennie: meeting log sent | 16:02 |
| Lennie | durin42: are you doing anything special tomorrow for TLaPD :P? | 16:02 |
| Lennie | durin42: thanks | 16:02 |
| durin42 | Lennie: staying at home, avoiding talking to any geeks ;) | 16:02 |
| madrazr | Lennie: tomorrow is also Software Freedom Day, I am feeling like TLP there :P | 16:02 |
| Lennie | hehe :D | 16:02 |
| Lennie | madrazr: you should ! | 16:02 |
| madrazr | Lennie: :) | 16:02 |
| Lennie | makes you one of the awesome people! | 16:03 |
| * durin42 must be Old now, since he's not excited by TLaPD | 16:05 | |
| Lennie | :( | 16:05 |
| Lennie | Pity on thee | 16:05 |
| durin42 | Hey you kids, get off the lawn! | 16:05 |
| durin42 | (was that convincing?) | 16:05 |
| Lennie | hmm | 16:06 |
| Lennie | or I'll shoot you | 16:06 |
| Lennie | then it might be :) | 16:06 |
| * Erant shoots Lennie | 16:06 | |
| Lennie | Erant: shoo | 16:06 |
| madrazr | Lennie: I killa ya >_< ? :P | 16:06 |
| Erant | :( | 16:06 |
| madrazr | Achmed style :D | 16:06 |
| Lennie | you are missing an awesome party on Tuesday Erant | 16:06 |
| Lennie | SILENCE! | 16:06 |
| Lennie | I killl u :P | 16:06 |
| Erant | Lennie: You're missing an awesome party tonight. And tomorrow. | 16:06 |
| Lennie | that achmed :)? | 16:06 |
| madrazr | Lennie: yeah :D | 16:06 |
| Lennie | Erant: lame :P | 16:07 |
| Erant | Lennie: And the Delft convoy is coming here in 45 mins. :P | 16:07 |
| Lennie | ? | 16:07 |
| Erant | Studiereis? | 16:07 |
| Lennie | roflmao | 16:07 |
| Lennie | really? | 16:07 |
| Lennie | haha | 16:07 |
| Erant | yarly | 16:08 |
| Lennie | why> | 16:08 |
| Erant | 'cuz | 16:08 |
| Erant | I gave them a reference. | 16:08 |
| Lennie | haha | 16:08 |
| Lennie | they must like you :P | 16:08 |
| Lennie | they're going to tour Apple ;D? | 16:08 |
| Erant | They do. Ofcourse, they're not going to be able to get anywhere near my office. | 16:08 |
| Erant | :/ | 16:08 |
| Lennie | :D | 16:08 |
| Lennie | mister special :p | 16:08 |
| Erant | You can't really 'tour' Apple. | 16:08 |
| Lennie | hehe | 16:08 |
| Erant | But yah. | 16:09 |
| Lennie | don't go all Apple is all arround you on me! | 16:09 |
| Erant | I'm not special, I'm just in 3 layers of lockdown | 16:09 |
| Lennie | :D | 16:09 |
| Erant | No, it's just that half of Apple is locked down | 16:09 |
| durin42 | The Apple "campus" was very intelligence-agency feeling. | 16:09 |
| durin42 | An air of suspicion kind of abounded. | 16:09 |
| Erant | durin42: Yup. You have to badge in to just about anything | 16:09 |
| durin42 | You have to badge in at Google too, but once you're inside, that's largely it. | 16:10 |
| Lennie | Erant: will you see some of the CH convoy :p? | 16:20 |
| Lennie | Erant: plix show off that you are awesome :P | 16:20 |
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