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| SRabbelier | solydzajs: sup | 13:32 |
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| solydzajs | SRabbelier: IRC or Skype ? | 13:33 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: I prefer IRC | 13:33 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: you? | 13:33 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: fine with me, PM | 13:33 |
| solydzajs | or channel ? | 13:33 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: I think our students can benefit from out discussion, I'm ok with having it here or in #melange-dev | 13:34 |
| solydzajs | agree | 13:34 |
| SRabbelier | ok :) | 13:34 |
| solydzajs | ok so we need to decide what are the final goals for the Statistics project | 13:34 |
| * SRabbelier nods | 13:35 | |
| solydzajs | what needs to be done and working at the end of GSoC | 13:35 |
| solydzajs | what kind of features etc | 13:35 |
| SRabbelier | aye, perhaps we can complete the list that's already in the wiki? | 13:35 |
| solydzajs | because it seems that our students are a little lost with how to continue work on the project | 13:35 |
| solydzajs | wiki link please | 13:36 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: http://code.google.com/p/soc/wiki/StatisticsModule#Stats | 13:36 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/3VzV> (at code.google.com) | 13:36 |
| solydzajs | ok | 13:37 |
| solydzajs | first of all we should decide whether we want to use our Jobs system at all for Stats | 13:38 |
| solydzajs | or just Task Queue API | 13:38 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: Task Queue API is replacement for Jobs | 13:38 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: I know | 13:38 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: that's why I'm asking | 13:38 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: I reckon they should just use Task Queue :) | 13:39 |
| solydzajs | ok I agree | 13:39 |
| solydzajs | so all the stats should be gathered using Task Queue API | 13:39 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: yup, either that, or as they are created (if appropriate) | 13:40 |
| solydzajs | ok | 13:40 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: that is, if someone updates a document and we want to keep count of how often a document is updated, like that | 13:40 |
| solydzajs | ok | 13:40 |
| solydzajs | Now we need to talk about UI and views that should be available | 13:41 |
| * SRabbelier nods | 13:41 | |
| solydzajs | Statistics Dashboards was one of them | 13:41 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: i think the statistics dashboard is pretty important | 13:41 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: aye | 13:41 |
| solydzajs | Statistics Collecting View that shows status of the gathering | 13:42 |
| solydzajs | stats data gathering | 13:42 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: for devs or hosts too? | 13:43 |
| solydzajs | initially we were thinking about Dashboards for Program Admin and Org Admin/Mentor | 13:43 |
| solydzajs | That depends on the stats, I think there should be a way to recalculate the stats from the web interface | 13:44 |
| * SRabbelier agrees | 13:44 | |
| solydzajs | For Hosts that would be for all Program Stats | 13:44 |
| solydzajs | for Org admin/Mentor for all Org stats | 13:44 |
| solydzajs | right now there is only one Dashboard | 13:45 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: sounds good | 13:45 |
| solydzajs | there is no dashboard for Org Admin/Mentor yet | 13:45 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: ok, so we want a dashboard for org admin too | 13:46 |
| solydzajs | I agree | 13:46 |
| solydzajs | The floating menu needs to be changed | 13:46 |
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| SRabbelier | solydzajs: changed how? | 13:46 |
| solydzajs | replaced with something else | 13:46 |
| solydzajs | I already talk about it with Mario | 13:46 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: oh, the fancy dropdown thingy? | 13:47 |
| solydzajs | yep | 13:47 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: aye | 13:47 |
| solydzajs | and the stats dashboard needs to be 2 column | 13:47 |
| solydzajs | not 3 | 13:47 |
| solydzajs | becaue 3 makes widgets too small | 13:47 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: that's easy to do though, yes? | 13:47 |
| solydzajs | yes | 13:48 |
| Lennie | SRabbelier: could you ping me on GTalk once this meeting is over :)? | 13:48 |
| solydzajs | I think that right now the most important part is stable code for backend and frontend | 13:48 |
| SRabbelier | Lennie: sure | 13:48 |
| Lennie | thanks | 13:48 |
| solydzajs | usage of Task Queue API | 13:48 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: yes, and making the statistic collecting more generic | 13:48 |
| solydzajs | yes | 13:48 |
| solydzajs | the Dashboards is important but we should limit the work on it to new floating menu, 2 column setup, and proper saving/loading of dashboards widgets (so when you reload the pages everything is in the same place etc.) | 13:50 |
| solydzajs | and push the code to the main repository for review asap | 13:50 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: ack, I think Daniel can finish that | 13:50 |
| solydzajs | it will take some time to review and it will take some of our students time to fix the code based on our review | 13:51 |
| solydzajs | so pushing code to main repo should be part of final goals | 13:51 |
| solydzajs | you agree ? | 13:51 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: yes, they should get started on that asap | 13:51 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: yup | 13:51 |
| solydzajs | anything else that we didn't cover ? | 13:52 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: yes, list of statistics they need to have done | 13:52 |
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| solydzajs | SRabbelier: ok | 13:54 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: is the list on the wiki sufficient? | 13:54 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: reading now one sec | 13:55 |
| solydzajs | let me prepare the list I think is sufficient, give me 3 minutes | 13:55 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: ok | 13:56 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: I will review :) | 13:56 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: oh and what about stats export ? | 13:59 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: mhhh, csv format? | 13:59 |
| solydzajs | yep csv is good but it will require some Tasks too | 14:00 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: to do regular export? | 14:00 |
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| solydzajs | oh it's not needed | 14:05 |
| solydzajs | they can quickly access the stats | 14:05 |
| solydzajs | no problem | 14:05 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: mh? | 14:05 |
| solydzajs | I mean Tasks for csv export won't be needed | 14:05 |
| solydzajs | but I think that CSV export should be part of final goals | 14:05 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: I'm pasting the list of stats I think are important | 14:06 |
| solydzajs | * Students (with/without project/all) per country/continent | 14:06 |
| solydzajs | * Students (with/without project/all) per school/continent | 14:06 |
| solydzajs | * Mentors (with/without project/all) per country/continent | 14:06 |
| solydzajs | * Students (with/without project/all) by degree | 14:06 |
| solydzajs | * Students (with/without project/all) by major | 14:06 |
| solydzajs | * Students (with/without project/all) by expected graduation year | 14:06 |
| solydzajs | * Number of Org Admins that are also Mentors | 14:06 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: ok | 14:06 |
| solydzajs | * Average number of Students per Mentor | 14:06 |
| solydzajs | * Average number of Student Proposals per Student | 14:06 |
| solydzajs | * Student Proposals number per country | 14:06 |
| solydzajs | * Student Projects per country | 14:06 |
| solydzajs | * Amount of mentors/students/org admins/mentors with projects/students with projects/students with proposals | 14:06 |
| solydzajs | * Organizations per program | 14:06 |
| solydzajs | * Student Projects/Student Proposals per organization / program | 14:06 |
| solydzajs | * Students, mentors and organization admins ages | 14:06 |
| * SRabbelier nods | 14:07 | |
| solydzajs | what do you think | 14:07 |
| solydzajs | ? | 14:07 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: aye, and it should all be done so that we can easily access these statistics | 14:08 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: for example, something like | 14:08 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: socghop.appspot.com/stats/img?foo=bar&spam=cheese | 14:08 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: that should result in an image | 14:09 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: (for inclusion in blog posts etc) | 14:09 |
| solydzajs | yes I agree | 14:11 |
| solydzajs | we might need to have a separate meeting to help out students with the design/architecture of some parts of this module | 14:12 |
| solydzajs | anything else should be included in final goals ? | 14:12 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: hmmm, no, I don't think we missed any | 14:15 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: I need to leave to the store in like 5 minutes, because they are closing supermarket at 9PM :-) | 14:15 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: hehehe, ok :) | 14:15 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: we can talk later then | 14:15 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: can you make a summary of our conversation, I think we covered everything | 14:16 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: sure | 14:16 |
| solydzajs | We can post this summary on mailing list and open discussion with our students | 14:16 |
| solydzajs | what do you think ? | 14:16 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: sounds good :) | 14:16 |
| solydzajs | awesome | 14:16 |
| solydzajs | I should be back in 30-40 minutes | 14:16 |
| solydzajs | I will ping you when I get back | 14:17 |
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| SRabbelier | solydzajs: ack :) | 14:17 |
| AndyTim_ | Tiny and humble suggestion: "Edit and re-submit this survey..." at the top of the mid-term program survey page might be better of as "You may edit and re-submit this survey..." | 14:18 |
| AndyTim_ | After my submission, I landed on the very same page with all of the survey data intact. I worried that I had failed to fill in all required fields or that something was broken. | 14:19 |
| AndyTim_ | The first line of the page helped me to suspect this. | 14:19 |
| AndyTim_ | It turns out that the submission was a success; the determination of such being the link's colour-change to blue from red. | 14:20 |
| AndyTim_ | Thank you for Melange, and a good day to all. | 14:21 |
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| solydzajs | SRabbelier: back | 15:23 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: how is it going with the summary ? | 15:23 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: wb | 15:23 |
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| solydzajs | SRabbelier: thanks for the summary | 15:37 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: np | 15:38 |
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