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| durin42 | SRabbelier: you awake? | 10:46 |
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| Erant | Hope he is | 10:50 |
| Erant | It's 4:50 | 10:50 |
| Erant | 16:50 | 10:50 |
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| MatthewWilkes | Could easily be at uni | 10:53 |
| Erant | Doubtful | 10:53 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: I have git stuff I want to bug you about | 10:54 |
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| lh | madrazr: ping | 11:13 |
| madrazr | lh: pong | 11:13 |
| lh | madrazr: can you remind me where you are located please? | 11:13 |
| madrazr | lh: Bangalore, India | 11:14 |
| lh | madrazr: thank you | 11:14 |
| madrazr | lh: NP | 11:14 |
| madrazr | lh: can you please tell me when you are free? | 11:14 |
| madrazr | I will ask few questions about GHOP :) | 11:14 |
| lh | madrazr: go ahead i will answer when i can :) | 11:15 |
| madrazr | lh: Ok | 11:15 |
| madrazr | lh: 1. is it necessary to provide option for org admins to add statuses other than we provide too? may be if some org wants? | 11:18 |
| lh | madrazr: statuses, no. we would like them to be able to add other "tags" to tasks, like "python" or "easy" | 11:21 |
| madrazr | lh: Ok | 11:22 |
| lh | but for statuses, which i have called task states on the wiki page. | 11:23 |
| lh | that's it - predefined, at lest one in that list must be attached to a task at all times | 11:23 |
| lh | does that make sense? | 11:23 |
| madrazr | lh: yes | 11:23 |
| madrazr | lh: understood | 11:23 |
| lh | madrazr: excellent. | 11:24 |
| madrazr | lh: 2. To view the latest added tasks, may be we can provide both dashboard and a public view (for users not signed up). Signed up students can use the Dashboard for customized view, say I want to see the latest added tasks of Melange, ASF, Git only, not all. Is that necessary? | 11:25 |
| madrazr | hope it is not too ambitious :P | 11:25 |
| lh | it is not necessary, but it is a very nice to have | 11:26 |
| lh | public view of all tasks is essential for ghop | 11:26 |
| lh | signed in or not | 11:26 |
| lh | customized dashboards would be awesome. | 11:26 |
| madrazr | lh: cool! | 11:27 |
| madrazr | lh: I will ask other questions as it comes up and if you are free, let me make some notes for all these things. | 11:28 |
| lh | sounds good. | 11:28 |
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| *** lh changes topic to "Melange Testing Meeting at 18:00 UTC today - Melange powers the Google Summer of Code 2009 site - Want to contribute? Start here: http://code.google.com/p/soc/wiki/GettingStarted - Be a Hero and Fix Some Melange Bugs: Easy Bugs: http://tinyurl.com/dax2j9 & Minimal Effort Bugs: http://tinyurl.com/d97z24 - Demo is running at http://melange-demo.appspot.com - Logs at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23melange" | 11:46 | |
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| * Lennie discovers Erant's picture at uglypeople.com | 12:45 | |
| * Lennie slaps Erant around a bit with a small Imperial-Class Stardestroyer | 12:45 | |
| Lennie | wrong button ^^ | 12:45 |
| Lennie | one more week till release of ST movie Erant | 12:45 |
| Lennie | keep the next saturday free :p | 12:45 |
| lh | our fighters won't last long against that star destroyer | 12:45 |
| Lennie | don't worry Leia :P | 12:46 |
| MatthewWilkes | Lennie: Lucky you're not in mexico! | 12:46 |
| Lennie | yeah | 12:46 |
| MatthewWilkes | It's been pushed back a week | 12:46 |
| Lennie | lets hope it doesnt spread too far north else Google has to shutdown :p | 12:47 |
| lh | Lennie: awww. :) | 12:47 |
| * lh blushes | 12:47 | |
| Lennie | haha | 12:48 |
| Lennie | I'd rather see you as Captain Janeway then Leia :P | 12:48 |
| Lennie | Leia has strange hair | 12:48 |
| lh | Lennie: you are *so* mean | 12:49 |
| lh | Janeway is erm, | 12:49 |
| lh | so | 12:49 |
| lh | hard | 12:49 |
| lh | if that makes sense | 12:50 |
| Lennie | ok | 12:51 |
| diones | can any of you guys give me a hand? | 12:52 |
| diones | :3 | 12:52 |
| lh | diones: whatcha need? | 12:52 |
| diones | can you try to run import app.soc.views.modes import user_self from a python console | 12:53 |
| * lh coughs, looks for coders | 12:53 | |
| diones | at your melange working copy? | 12:54 |
| diones | :# | 12:54 |
| MatthewWilkes | I'll look | 12:56 |
| lh | MatthewWilkes: thank you dear. | 12:56 |
| diones | thanks | 12:56 |
| Lennie | thanks MatthewWilkes | 12:56 |
| Lennie | I'm off to make dinner | 12:56 |
| Lennie | ttyl | 12:56 |
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| MatthewWilkes | just svn uping - I'm a couple of weeks out | 12:57 |
| Lennie|Gone | MatthewWilkes | 12:57 |
| Lennie|Gone | we are using HG | 12:57 |
| MatthewWilkes | Lennie|Gone: Are they not mirrored? | 12:57 |
| Lennie|Gone | nope | 12:58 |
| Lennie|Gone | not that I know | 12:58 |
| MatthewWilkes | piece of shit! | 12:58 |
| Lennie|Gone | wow, relax :D | 12:59 |
| MatthewWilkes | Yeah, last commit 5 days ago | 12:59 |
| Erant | Lennie: Will do. | 12:59 |
| MatthewWilkes | I expected so much more, google project hosting! | 12:59 |
| Lennie|Gone | MatthewWilkes, HG is still in testing phase | 12:59 |
| Lennie|Gone | we are helping them test it | 12:59 |
| MatthewWilkes | Ok | 12:59 |
| Lennie|Gone | brb, before dinner burns ;p | 13:00 |
| Lennie|Gone | b | 13:02 |
| Lennie|Gone | Erant, you want to join for dinner I have enough :P | 13:02 |
| Lennie|Gone | ah dinner should be ready now ^^ | 13:12 |
| Erant | *burp* | 13:18 |
| Erant | I already ate. | 13:18 |
| Erant | And they stuffed me with food at Fox IT. | 13:18 |
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| lh | solydzajs: ping | 13:40 |
| lh | solydzajs: i have meetings from 11 - 12 | 13:40 |
| lh | solydzajs: i am going to do my best to keep an eye on the testing meeting here but may not be able to do a very good job, sorry about that | 13:40 |
| solydzajs | lh: no problem we will post the notes later, thanks for letting us know | 13:40 |
| lh | solydzajs: rock | 13:41 |
| lh | have a good meeting | 13:41 |
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| Lennie | Erant, stuffed nice :P | 13:47 |
| Erant | Lennie: Yeah, their cantine looks like Google's | 13:53 |
| Lennie | :p | 13:53 |
| Erant | But I'm also considering applying at Festo. | 13:54 |
| SRabbelier | o hi | 13:54 |
| Erant | Where Festo makes shit like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaHQ3ZYy4IE | 13:55 |
| tpb | Title: YouTube - Festo Humanoid (at www.youtube.com) | 13:55 |
| diones | I think I have missed the chance to ask about the coverage thing | 13:55 |
| diones | :D | 13:55 |
| diones | 24h late | 13:55 |
| SRabbelier | diones: well no | 13:56 |
| SRabbelier | diones: testing meeting is today :) | 13:56 |
| diones | ah, ok, realy? | 13:57 |
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| Lennie | rolfmao awesome SRabbelier | 14:00 |
| Lennie | Erant | 14:00 |
| Lennie | ^^ | 14:00 |
| SRabbelier | Lennie: awesome? | 14:00 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: that Festo stuff is cool | 14:00 |
| Lennie | yeah youtube ;P | 14:00 |
| Erant | Festo Humanoid | 14:00 |
| Erant | Yeah, Festo is awesome. Now to see if they'll let me near their toys. :P | 14:01 |
| solydzajs | ok few more minutes and we start :-) | 14:01 |
| Erant | It's 1 past. I call this meeting void. | 14:01 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: they'd be wise no to :P | 14:01 |
| Erant | SRabbelier: Agreed. | 14:02 |
| solydzajs | Ok who is here for the meeting ?;-) | 14:04 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: pong :P | 14:04 |
| * madrazr raises his hand ;-) | 14:04 | |
| solydzajs | diones: you too ? | 14:05 |
| solydzajs | Lennie: ping | 14:05 |
| Lennie | pong | 14:05 |
| dhans | solydzajs: pong :) | 14:05 |
| SRabbelier | dhans: you there? | 14:06 |
| Lennie | he just said pong :P? | 14:06 |
| solydzajs | dhans: oh cool :-) | 14:06 |
| diones | what? | 14:06 |
| Erant | ... | 14:06 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: that was a late reaction time :P | 14:06 |
| solydzajs | diones: you are for the meeting ? | 14:06 |
| diones | yes I'm | 14:06 |
| solydzajs | ok | 14:06 |
| solydzajs | Erant: you ? | 14:06 |
| SRabbelier | Lennie: ah, indeed | 14:07 |
| Lennie | Erant will just hack away :D | 14:07 |
| Lennie | he's always here | 14:07 |
| solydzajs | So let's get this meeting rolling :-) Melange Testing meeting is it :-) | 14:07 |
| solydzajs | Participants: diones , Lennie , SRabbelier, dhans , madrazr , Erant , solydzajs | 14:07 |
| Lennie | Hi Erant :P | 14:08 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: do we have an agenda, or are we doing a freeform meeting? | 14:08 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: we need to discuss few things | 14:08 |
| solydzajs | 1. We need to decide who is going to write tests for which part of Melange | 14:09 |
| solydzajs | 2. We need to decide what kind of tests who is going to work on | 14:09 |
| solydzajs | 3. See below | 14:09 |
| solydzajs | * unit tests | 14:09 |
| solydzajs | * functional tests | 14:09 |
| solydzajs | * smoke tests | 14:09 |
| solydzajs | * extending seed_db module | 14:09 |
| solydzajs | * special view for seed_db module | 14:09 |
| solydzajs | * testing coverage | 14:10 |
| SRabbelier | jameslevy: ping? | 14:11 |
| diones | ... | 14:12 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: found a bug in git-daemon | 14:13 |
| solydzajs | what a silence | 14:13 |
| solydzajs | I guess everybody expect me to talk :-) | 14:13 |
| Lennie | we are waiting on you... | 14:13 |
| solydzajs | heh ok | 14:13 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: yeah, we look to our leader to guide us! :D | 14:13 |
| diones | True | 14:13 |
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| solydzajs | ok who is interesting in writing unit tests ? | 14:14 |
| Lennie | wrong way arround? | 14:14 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: that would be a difficult question to answer :( | 14:14 |
| Lennie | how about parts first? | 14:14 |
| Lennie | and what's your vision on these tests? | 14:14 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: at least for people like me who has no experience in writing tests till now :( | 14:14 |
| Lennie | what do you want to accomplish :D | 14:14 |
| diones | parts? | 14:15 |
| Lennie | yeah, you can unit test almost anything | 14:15 |
| solydzajs | well what I want to accomplish first would be extending seed_db and it's static HTML view so it's more useful and allows to quickly setup a working Melange with fake data | 14:15 |
| solydzajs | then I would like to focus on unit tests and smoke tests | 14:15 |
| diones | I was intersted in unit tests, but then I found the code coverage thing | 14:16 |
| diones | its funnier to do :) | 14:16 |
| solydzajs | diones: code cooverage will not take you long so after code coverage you can start working on unit tests how does that sound ? | 14:16 |
| diones | sure | 14:17 |
| Lennie | although it might not tell us much atm diones it would be cool to have somewhat further down the road! :D | 14:17 |
| Lennie | go for it | 14:17 |
| dhans | I thought I could work for some unit tests too, if it's ok :) | 14:17 |
| diones | Sure it would create like an infinite list of things not covered | 14:18 |
| solydzajs | of course it is :-) | 14:18 |
| solydzajs | I would like to work on seed_db and it's special view | 14:18 |
| Lennie | diones, seeing that list get smqaller is fun though :D | 14:18 |
| solydzajs | :D | 14:18 |
| solydzajs | ok so we have diones to work on coverage then unit tests | 14:18 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: I think that view would be an excelent task for one of our contributors | 14:18 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: since they are not so experienced with the code, and we all are | 14:19 |
| solydzajs | dhans to work on unit tests | 14:19 |
| Lennie | yeah but if no one wants to do it then we'll do it :) | 14:19 |
| Lennie | I'm not going to force the contributors :D | 14:20 |
| solydzajs | I can work on both unit tests and seed_db then, I can do seed_db module part and some contributor can do HTML/JS magic on the view side | 14:20 |
| Lennie | I'm only torturing madrazr | 14:20 |
| madrazr | Lennie: but you only want to scare then :P | 14:20 |
| madrazr | Lennie: ha ha, what a timing!? :D | 14:20 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: you will work on unit tests correct ? | 14:20 |
| Lennie | apparently we all want to do unit tests since they are easy | 14:20 |
| dhans | solydzajs: ok, but first I would like to clarify what kind of unit tests you have in mind:) | 14:20 |
| Lennie | guess we'll worry about more advanced testing later :p | 14:20 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: I'll probably work most on helping our students work on unit tests :) | 14:21 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: heh ok :-) | 14:21 |
| Lennie | I'm going to write unit tests for cleaning module this weekend | 14:21 |
| solydzajs | dhans: we need to prioritize which modules we are going to test first | 14:21 |
| SRabbelier | Lennie: use your SKenT skillz for determining test classes! :P | 14:22 |
| solydzajs | Lennie: cleaning module is nice but it's also easiest to test :-) | 14:22 |
| Lennie | STandQ :)? | 14:22 |
| solydzajs | Lennie: nice try ;-) pick something else :-) | 14:22 |
| SRabbelier | Lennie: hehe, yes, I guess | 14:22 |
| solydzajs | We need to test logic, views, and all helpers modules | 14:22 |
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| solydzajs | I would start with basic stuff | 14:24 |
| solydzajs | testing user module | 14:24 |
| solydzajs | both logic and views | 14:24 |
| solydzajs | and moving up | 14:24 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: yes, I think a good starter will be to test the logic modules | 14:24 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: true, maybe just logic for now | 14:25 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: cause views will be tricky | 14:25 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: it's not too bad | 14:25 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: I have a working POC on that they're easy to test | 14:25 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: ok | 14:25 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: (see tests.views.models.base I think) | 14:25 |
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| solydzajs | SRabbelier: so you suggest for each module logic then view or all logic first and then views ? | 14:26 |
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| solydzajs | SRabbelier: I would suggest logic and views because if somebody is already trying to understand logic for particular module then it's easier for him to do view tests for the same module sooner then later | 14:26 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: I think it doesn't matter much in which order we start out, I think it'd be best if we go with what our contributors are most intrested in | 14:26 |
| Lennie | bottomdown, logic first for me | 14:26 |
| Lennie | together with the helper modules | 14:27 |
| solydzajs | contributors what are you most interested in ?:D | 14:27 |
| Lennie | back in 1 min, keep discussing :D | 14:27 |
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| diones | I would take the view first | 14:27 |
| diones | They are trickier, its easier to find problems looking into them | 14:28 |
| solydzajs | diones: ok fine with me | 14:28 |
| dhans | I also think that it may be easier for someone to test both logic and view together, so that would be good for me, but if you say that views may be tricky... :D | 14:28 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: Logic and then the corresponding view | 14:29 |
| diones | making logic tests after doing view tests would be trivial | 14:29 |
| SRabbelier | dhans: you'll do fine :) | 14:29 |
| solydzajs | :-) | 14:29 |
| SRabbelier | diones: interesting pov, perhaps we can try both? | 14:29 |
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| dhans | SRabbelier: thank you that you beleive in me:P | 14:29 |
| solydzajs | ok so it will be up to the contributor whether he will test logic or view first | 14:30 |
| SRabbelier | dhans: I believe in my ability to get you on track :P | 14:30 |
| solydzajs | but when we do tests for a module we do tests for both logic and view | 14:30 |
| solydzajs | agreed on that ? | 14:30 |
| diones | sure | 14:30 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: I don't think we need to require this though | 14:30 |
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| dhans | SRabbelier: Damn, I was so proud of myself:P | 14:30 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: if someone feels like doing just logic or view, I don't think it would be good to try and force them into anything, right? | 14:31 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: well we don't have, let's make it a suggestion :-) | 14:31 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: good idea :) | 14:31 |
| solydzajs | ok I know Merio is not here but I feel he will want to help me with seed_db view | 14:32 |
| solydzajs | I will ask him later | 14:33 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: maybe you can mentor him in this? | 14:33 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: yes I will | 14:33 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: if he agrees to help me with it | 14:33 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: sounds like a plan | 14:34 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: ok now we need to decide who is going to work on tests for what module | 14:34 |
| Erant | I'm missing the security tests :/ | 14:34 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: you haven't spoken up yet :P | 14:34 |
| solydzajs | I will also prepare some useful links for everybody to read about unit testing in python, django etc | 14:34 |
| Lennie | Erant, test the access module :P? | 14:34 |
| Erant | SRabbelier: I'm trying to combine this meeting with actual work. :P | 14:34 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: you're as useless as always :P | 14:35 |
| Erant | SRabbelier: Thank you. | 14:35 |
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| diones | what are those functional tests? | 14:36 |
| Lennie | :D | 14:36 |
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| Erant | Dum dum | 14:37 |
| Lennie | wb Erant :D | 14:37 |
| solydzajs | diones: have you ever heard of selenium or twill ? | 14:37 |
| Lennie | you gave me a scare | 14:37 |
| diones | yes | 14:37 |
| Erant | Awww. | 14:37 |
| Erant | Sorry, I'm just trying to do some actual work. | 14:37 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: yeah, for sure! | 14:37 |
| solydzajs | diones: those tools are used to do functional testing | 14:37 |
| MatthewWilkes | Re functional testing, I very much recommend zope.testbrowser | 14:37 |
| solydzajs | http://seleniumhq.org/ | 14:37 |
| madrazr | Lennie: wasn't that a boomerang? :P | 14:37 |
| tpb | Title: Selenium web application testing system (at seleniumhq.org) | 14:37 |
| solydzajs | selenium requires browser | 14:37 |
| MatthewWilkes | I didn't like twill, it felt too clunky | 14:37 |
| Lennie | madrazr :) | 14:37 |
| solydzajs | so I would focus on twill for now | 14:37 |
| MatthewWilkes | And selenium requires more infrastructure | 14:38 |
| MatthewWilkes | http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zope.testbrowser FYI | 14:38 |
| tpb | Title: Python Package Index : zope.testbrowser 3.6.0a2 (at pypi.python.org) | 14:38 |
| solydzajs | http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/wa-aj-testing/ | 14:38 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/3-FK> (at www.ibm.com) | 14:38 |
| solydzajs | really nice article about functional testing on Google App Engine | 14:38 |
| solydzajs | using twill, selenium and windmill | 14:38 |
| solydzajs | I will put it in the meeting notes | 14:38 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: zope? it's a headless browser in python? | 14:39 |
| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: It's got no deps on zope, but it was written as part of zope's test framework | 14:40 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: ah, very nice | 14:40 |
| jameslevy | http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/testing/ the Django test runner isn't great for detailed view testing, but should work well for smoke tests | 14:41 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/2EpC> (at docs.djangoproject.com) | 14:41 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: have you looked at smoke test patch ? | 14:41 |
| MatthewWilkes | The disadvantage of Twill is some test runners get confused by its interactive syntax | 14:41 |
| MatthewWilkes | I couldn't get it to run in nose, for example | 14:41 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: I'm off for a few days now, so I can catch up on melange :) | 14:42 |
| MatthewWilkes | (doctest that is) | 14:42 |
| solydzajs | jameslevy: yep correct I think for smoke tests we need to run seed_db to have something to test on :-) | 14:42 |
| solydzajs | MatthewWilkes: good to know thx | 14:42 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: we're not really using doctests though? | 14:42 |
| solydzajs | MatthewWilkes: do you want to help with some tests too ?;-) | 14:42 |
| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: There's no reason not to use doctests and unit tests, sometimes doctests can be very good documentation | 14:43 |
| diones | Can we use on melange? | 14:44 |
| MatthewWilkes | solydzajs: I'm currently very busy - writing a book on python web dev which is draining my free time - but I intend to continue commiting fixes and generally helping. If that means sitting down for a weekend when I'm not too busy and writing tests, I'll happily do that | 14:44 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: true, but I meant that if it doesn't work with selenium it's ok to have those as separate tests | 14:45 |
| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: Selenium's python bindings are unittest based | 14:45 |
| MatthewWilkes | you just feed them all to your testrunner and it will run them | 14:45 |
| solydzajs | MatthewWilkes: ok great thanks and good luck with the book, I would be happy to review some chapter :-) | 14:45 |
| * madrazr would be happy to get a complimentary copy :P | 14:46 | |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: sounds good, do you think you have time to give us help with zope if we use it? | 14:46 |
| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: Absolutely | 14:46 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: zope should not be a problem I played with it before | 14:47 |
| solydzajs | MatthewWilkes: but help is of course appreciated :-) | 14:47 |
| MatthewWilkes | It's not zope itself, the testbrowser is just a python library | 14:47 |
| MatthewWilkes | The PYPI page I posted contains an example of usage | 14:47 |
| diones | MatthewWilkes: Do you think we can use doctests on melange? | 14:48 |
| MatthewWilkes | diones: Yeah, why not? It's all python | 14:50 |
| diones | MatthewWilkes: The melange achitecture is very dynamic sometimes just to import a module we need to have it runnig as a app engine application | 14:51 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: ok we need to decide who takes what modules | 14:51 |
| SRabbelier | Lennie: do you have any preference? | 14:52 |
| diones | just for testing | 14:52 |
| Lennie | yeah unless a contributor wants to do the cleaning ^^ | 14:52 |
| Lennie | + module | 14:53 |
| Lennie | it has to be done at some point | 14:53 |
| solydzajs | diones: any preference for modules ? | 14:53 |
| solydzajs | dhans: you ? | 14:53 |
| solydzajs | madrazr: you ? | 14:53 |
| Lennie | Erant: access.py | 14:54 |
| Lennie | :P | 14:54 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: you will be helping out so not sure if you want to take something on you too ? | 14:54 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: Organization, Student_* modules and one or two views helper (timeline, access) | 14:54 |
| diones | I could take student and student proposal maybe? | 14:54 |
| Lennie | SRabbelier should be our beacon of light in this period :D | 14:54 |
| madrazr | does that make sense? | 14:54 |
| dhans | I'd prefer to work with logics and views so as to understand them better, so please don't give me any cleaning modules now :) | 14:54 |
| diones | ah ok | 14:54 |
| Lennie | dhans, sure hans you'll get cleaning :P | 14:55 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: If I turn out to have time spare I'll work on whatever is left, will let you know and see what needs doing if that happens | 14:55 |
| SRabbelier | Lennie: I hope to be :) | 14:55 |
| dhans | lennie: :P | 14:55 |
| diones | organization and orgs then | 14:55 |
| solydzajs | madrazr: can you work on Organization and Program ? | 14:55 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: yes, done! | 14:55 |
| diones | ah I quit | 14:55 |
| Lennie | madrazr: student* and diones:org* ? | 14:56 |
| Lennie | solydzajs | 14:56 |
| diones | :) | 14:56 |
| solydzajs | diones: you on Student, Student Proposal/Project ? | 14:56 |
| diones | ok solydzajs | 14:56 |
| solydzajs | dhans: you User , Site, Notifications ? | 14:57 |
| madrazr | Lennie: I did not get you | 14:57 |
| dhans | solydzajs: sure:) | 14:57 |
| Lennie | listen to solydzajs apparently he has a plan or he did not hear me :P | 14:57 |
| madrazr | Lennie: :) | 14:57 |
| solydzajs | :-) | 14:58 |
| solydzajs | Lennie: cleaning moduel and other helper modules for now ? | 14:58 |
| Lennie | O | 14:58 |
| Lennie | *I'll start with cleaning yes | 14:59 |
| solydzajs | ok | 14:59 |
| dhans | lennie: and you got what you want! :) | 14:59 |
| Lennie | apparently madrazr wants to test timeline and access (the later one is haaaard SRabbelier can help you with that) | 14:59 |
| solydzajs | If somebody didn't look into our "tests" folder yet please have a look that's where we put our tests and that's where we have some of the basic tests already (very basic) | 14:59 |
| SRabbelier | Lennie: yes, I can help with that for sure :) | 15:00 |
| solydzajs | ok | 15:00 |
| madrazr | Lennie: firstly, how about completing organization and program that solydzajs assigned me and then moving on to that | 15:00 |
| madrazr | so I don't block those modules? | 15:00 |
| solydzajs | I will focus on seed_db improvements both module and view with Merio | 15:00 |
| solydzajs | and then move to unit tests | 15:00 |
| Lennie | madrazr, sure :) | 15:00 |
| madrazr | Lennie: cool! | 15:01 |
| diones | After this meeting It may be cool to have a list on who is doing what :) | 15:01 |
| solydzajs | is somebody wihtout assignment ? | 15:01 |
| * Lennie sends some DDoS in Erant's direction | 15:02 | |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: @diones's question, Pawel are you going ot post meeting notes? | 15:02 |
| Lennie | logs are fine + list of what is done by who | 15:02 |
| Lennie | and the links to awesome test stuff | 15:02 |
| SRabbelier | Lennie: that's what I was thinking of, aye | 15:03 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: yes | 15:05 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: I will post the notes to summarize the meeting | 15:05 |
| * jameslevy is trying to figure out the slot allocation logic.... | 15:06 | |
| SRabbelier | jameslevy: we even have tests for that! :D | 15:06 |
| solydzajs | jameslevy: what modules you would like to help with ? | 15:07 |
| diones | what was decided about smoke tests? | 15:09 |
| Lennie | nothing actually | 15:09 |
| Lennie | atleast I can't remember :D | 15:09 |
| diones | ah good | 15:09 |
| Lennie | smoke test are easy | 15:09 |
| diones | so I didn't missed anything :) | 15:10 |
| Lennie | just try to open the homepage usually does the trick :D | 15:10 |
| diones | haven't* | 15:10 |
| diones | lol | 15:10 |
| jameslevy | solydzajs: maybe cron logic? | 15:11 |
| SRabbelier | jameslevy: that would be awesome | 15:11 |
| solydzajs | jameslevy: ok awesome | 15:11 |
| SRabbelier | jameslevy: I already have half-a-tests for that, so it'd be great if you could pick up and turn it into proper tests | 15:12 |
| jameslevy | sure. that might make it easier for me to pick up some momentum | 15:12 |
| dhans | that may be a silly question, but what did we decide about functional tests?:) | 15:13 |
| dhans | I am worried I just missed something:P | 15:13 |
| SRabbelier | dhans: I think atm we just want to get started writing some tests | 15:14 |
| solydzajs | dhans: functional tests will have to wait for now | 15:14 |
| Lennie | that we'll be looking into other things then selenium... | 15:14 |
| Lennie | liek http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zope.testbrowser | 15:14 |
| tpb | Title: Python Package Index : zope.testbrowser 3.6.0a2 (at pypi.python.org) | 15:14 |
| SRabbelier | dhans: and as soon as we are all more comfortable with the code we can ease into different types of tests | 15:14 |
| solydzajs | exactly | 15:14 |
| dhans | solydzajs: thank you:) just wanted to make sure | 15:14 |
| solydzajs | sure thing ;-) | 15:15 |
| solydzajs | ok so we are all set | 15:15 |
| solydzajs | before we close this meeting | 15:16 |
| solydzajs | I would like to talk with you whether next Thursday is ok for you to have next meeting about the progress ? | 15:16 |
| solydzajs | not such long one | 15:16 |
| Lennie | hmm | 15:16 |
| Lennie | ... | 15:16 |
| Lennie | next thursday? | 15:16 |
| Lennie | you mean tomorrow? | 15:16 |
| solydzajs | ah I mean next week | 15:16 |
| madrazr | Lennie: it is already thursday here :P | 15:16 |
| Lennie | if so I can tell you my progress, 0 it's queens day :P | 15:17 |
| solydzajs | 7th of May 2009 | 15:17 |
| Lennie | eheh, gratz madrazr :D | 15:17 |
| madrazr | Lennie: :D | 15:17 |
| solydzajs | same time 6PM UTC | 15:17 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: seems Ok to me | 15:17 |
| solydzajs | madrazr: ok great | 15:18 |
| solydzajs | works for me too :-) | 15:18 |
| solydzajs | otherwise I wouldn't propose it I guess heh : | 15:18 |
| solydzajs | :D | 15:18 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: there are 2 things I want to bring up today, not related to tests though after you close this meeting | 15:18 |
| solydzajs | madrazr: ok I will stay around | 15:18 |
| Lennie | GHOP stuff? | 15:19 |
| madrazr | Lennie: no :) | 15:19 |
| Lennie | blogging :P? | 15:19 |
| solydzajs | jameslevy: dhans : diones : Lennie : SRabbelier : ok with the meeting 7th of May ? | 15:19 |
| madrazr | Lennie: getting started wiki update and Melange team cloak stuff :) | 15:19 |
| diones | Sure | 15:19 |
| dhans | solydzajs: ok | 15:19 |
| Lennie | solydzajs, I'll try to be there | 15:19 |
| Lennie | might be late | 15:19 |
| Lennie | have to travel | 15:19 |
| solydzajs | I will post about it on the list | 15:19 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: lgtm | 15:19 |
| jameslevy | solydzajs: works for me | 15:19 |
| solydzajs | and also post a reminder | 15:19 |
| Lennie | team cloak :D | 15:20 |
| solydzajs | or just invite you to Google Calendar event | 15:20 |
| solydzajs | :-) | 15:20 |
| Lennie | GCe ftw | 15:20 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: that would be awesome (calendar invite) | 15:20 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: yep I will try to do it from now on and also setup Melange Google Calendar for all events | 15:21 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: with RSS feeds and widget on our code.google.com page | 15:22 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: I think we have a calendar at googleopensourceprograms, maybe you can put them on there? | 15:22 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: right can do that :-) | 15:22 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: noted | 15:22 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: sweet :) | 15:22 |
| solydzajs | ok guys I'm closing Melange Testing meeting | 15:22 |
| solydzajs | yay :-) | 15:22 |
| solydzajs | Thank you all for participating | 15:23 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: thanks, it was a good meeting :) | 15:23 |
| solydzajs | I will post meeting notes hopefully later today if not today for sure tomorrow | 15:23 |
| * MatthewWilkes cheers the melange team - testing rules | 15:23 | |
| madrazr | solydzajs: RSS feeds will be brilliant, for lazy people like me, who care about doing multiple clicks to open the calendar :D | 15:23 |
| dhans | thank you, now back to watching champions league:) | 15:23 |
| solydzajs | :-) | 15:23 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: Thank you! | 15:23 |
| Lennie | dhans | 15:23 |
| Lennie | good one | 15:23 |
| Lennie | lets see | 15:23 |
| solydzajs | madrazr: ok what you wanted to talk about ?:-) | 15:23 |
| Lennie | 1-0 :) | 15:24 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: 1. about the GettingStarted Wiki page | 15:24 |
| madrazr | the new distros (Linux) are updating their python versions to Python 2.6 as default | 15:24 |
| dhans | Lennie, exactly, and I didn't watch the goal :( | 15:24 |
| madrazr | Ubuntu did it, and this really sucks, since GAE doesn't run on 2.6 | 15:25 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: it doesn't? | 15:25 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: no | 15:25 |
| *** dhans has quit IRC | 15:26 | |
| madrazr | solydzajs: SRabbelier: so the work around I found out is to, install Python 2.5 and change the very first line of dev_appserver.py to #!/usr/bin/env python2.5 from #!/usr/bin/env python | 15:26 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: SRabbelier: should we put this on our GettingStarted Wiki? | 15:26 |
| madrazr | I thought of doing it myself, but really could not get where exactly that fits, so I brought it up here | 15:26 |
| Lennie | can't hurt | 15:26 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: mhhh, I'd rather have GAE working with 2.6 :D | 15:26 |
| Lennie | SRabbelier: Tell GAE :P | 15:27 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: try :D | 15:27 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: what kind of breakage are you experiencing? | 15:27 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: actually good luck :P | 15:27 |
| Lennie | SRabbelier: it all breaks SRabbelier :S | 15:27 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: exactly :D | 15:27 |
| madrazr | everything breaks :P | 15:27 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: it says cannot import module _multiprocessing | 15:27 |
| SRabbelier | Lennie, madrazr: pretty sweet | 15:27 |
| solydzajs | ok i'm back sorry | 15:27 |
| MatthewWilkes | At the last mentor summit we had a Python 2.6 porting room for the 2nd day | 15:27 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: lol, why does it need that? :P | 15:27 |
| MatthewWilkes | Was so much fun :) | 15:27 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: cool :D | 15:27 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: I really don't know, we must ask Guido ;-) | 15:28 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: heheh :D | 15:28 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: I mean you must ask, when you goto Mt.V | 15:28 |
| madrazr | :D | 15:28 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: sure, I'll poke him about it right away! :P:P | 15:28 |
| solydzajs | madrazr: better trick is to change your default python symbolic link | 15:28 |
| solydzajs | madrazr: I did that here on my Mac too | 15:28 |
| solydzajs | madrazr: python is a symbolic link to either python2.5 or python2.6 depending on my needs | 15:29 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: I did that and thought I was a genius. later realized it broke my entire system :D | 15:29 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: lol, awesome | 15:29 |
| solydzajs | madrazr: wow ;-) I didn't break mine :-) | 15:29 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: the modules that install are stupidly mixed up in these distros | 15:29 |
| solydzajs | madrazr: we can always post on the wiki two workarounds | 15:29 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: sure | 15:30 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: MAC ftw :) | 15:30 |
| solydzajs | madrazr: I will put that on my todo list then | 15:30 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: cool! | 15:30 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: shall I move to 2nd point on my list? | 15:30 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: go wild :) | 15:30 |
| solydzajs | madrazr: yes please | 15:30 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: how about having a Melange IRC group cloak? | 15:31 |
| madrazr | so we have something like madrazr@melange/madhusudancs | 15:31 |
| madrazr | when someone does a whois on us. I can help with doing all the freenode paperwork and stuf | 15:31 |
| diones | SRabbelier: can you do me a litle favor? :3 | 15:32 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: you know I'm +1 on that :) | 15:32 |
| SRabbelier | diones: ofc :) | 15:32 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: yeah, I was about to tell that | 15:32 |
| solydzajs | madrazr: yes we can do that :-) | 15:32 |
| Lennie | +1 | 15:32 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: awesome!!! | 15:32 |
| solydzajs | madrazr: I will put that on my todo list too | 15:32 |
| Lennie | why do it all solydzajs | 15:32 |
| Lennie | madrazr wants to help :D | 15:32 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: Ok, if you want me to do the freenode, filling forms and stuff, I can do it | 15:32 |
| solydzajs | madrazr: like madrazr@melange/gsoc/madhusudancs ?:-) | 15:32 |
| diones | try to run this 'import app.soc.views.models.user_self' on a pydev console at melange directory | 15:32 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: exactly | 15:33 |
| solydzajs | madrazr: no I will take care of that no problem | 15:33 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: awesome! | 15:33 |
| solydzajs | madrazr: then you can show your friends how awesome you are :P :-) | 15:33 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: of course, it is a show off thingie :D :D :D | 15:33 |
| solydzajs | that's why I thought :-) | 15:33 |
| diones | LOL | 15:34 |
| solydzajs | s/why/what | 15:34 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: at least I am proud to be associated with Melange team :P | 15:34 |
| solydzajs | I will reconsider than :-) | 15:34 |
| Lennie | solydzajs, melange/lennie will do :P | 15:34 |
| Lennie | or melange/ljvderijk ^^ | 15:34 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: LoL! NO NO NO you are not allowed to change your decision ;-) | 15:34 |
| solydzajs | :-) | 15:34 |
| solydzajs | I am :-) | 15:34 |
| solydzajs | project lead powers :D | 15:34 |
| Lennie | damn solydzajs, I want to torture him! | 15:34 |
| Lennie | no fun this way :P | 15:34 |
| solydzajs | :-) | 15:35 |
| solydzajs | hehe | 15:35 |
| Lennie | diones, works in console via web app | 15:35 |
| madrazr | Lennie: solydzajs: Oh! is there a competition for who tortures better :P | 15:35 |
| madrazr | no you won't get any prize for that :D | 15:35 |
| Lennie | :( | 15:35 |
| solydzajs | Lennie: I will buy you a torture chair :-) | 15:35 |
| diones | web app? | 15:35 |
| Lennie | http://localhost:8080/_ah/admin/interactive | 15:35 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: ha ha :D | 15:35 |
| diones | Lennie: and the normal console? | 15:36 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: : I don't think he needs one, he tortures with his crazy mind p0w3rz! :P | 15:36 |
| Lennie | hmm | 15:36 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: I am done with my questions :) | 15:36 |
| Lennie | windows sucks :D | 15:36 |
| solydzajs | :-) | 15:36 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: and I am waiting to have a melange cloak ASAP :D I will be keep persuading you :D | 15:36 |
| solydzajs | madrazr: ok thanks for suggestions I will work on that and keep you posted | 15:36 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: thanks a lot | 15:36 |
| Lennie | I can't diones | 15:36 |
| Lennie | not at the moment | 15:36 |
| diones | ah ok | 15:36 |
| Lennie | my system PATH is screwed up | 15:36 |
| madrazr | s/keep// | 15:36 |
| solydzajs | madrazr: don't bother because I may put you on ignore list :-) | 15:36 |
| diones | :) | 15:37 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: LoL! :D | 15:37 |
| solydzajs | madrazr: and it's one way ticket :D | 15:37 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: what? I did not get you? | 15:37 |
| diones | windows its like a linux but works | 15:37 |
| diones | ;) | 15:37 |
| solydzajs | madrazr: if you get on my ignore list there is no coming back (deletion from the list) :-) | 15:38 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: what do you think of having madrazr update the wiki with his part of the workaround? | 15:38 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: sure if he wants to do it go ahead | 15:38 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: less work for me :-) | 15:38 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: would save you time, and gives him an opportunity to earn some trust poitns ;) | 15:38 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: I thought of that already, but I really could not get where this workaround fits | 15:39 |
| Lennie | make a new header | 15:39 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: solydzajs: where do you suggest? which subsection | 15:39 |
| solydzajs | madrazr: SRabbelier will help you find the spot :-) | 15:39 |
| Lennie | document the error message you are getting | 15:39 |
| Lennie | thens ay | 15:39 |
| Lennie | say | 15:39 |
| Lennie | to fix this do.... | 15:39 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: let us be your guide :D | 15:39 |
| solydzajs | ok guys | 15:39 |
| solydzajs | I need to leave for 1h | 15:39 |
| solydzajs | bbs | 15:39 |
| Lennie | Known Problems section :) | 15:39 |
| solydzajs | have fun | 15:39 |
| solydzajs | :-) | 15:39 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: bye, see you | 15:39 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: sure | 15:39 |
| madrazr | Lennie: seems good for me | 15:40 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: what do you have to say on Lennie's suggestion? | 15:40 |
| Lennie | It's a wiki we can edit it :P | 15:40 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: I agree with Lennie, Known Problems is a good place | 15:40 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: awesome! I now need to break my system more, to set python2.6 as default and get the error :D | 15:40 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: hahha :D | 15:40 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: nice one | 15:40 |
| Lennie | ^^ | 15:40 |
| madrazr | he he, I have anyways decided to do a fresh install today :P So let me break it as much as possible before that :D | 15:41 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: lol, why not :P | 15:42 |
| madrazr | :D | 15:42 |
| madrazr | Lennie: btw, I am still waiting for something that makes me cry :D | 15:42 |
| Lennie | :) | 15:42 |
| Lennie | I know | 15:42 |
| Lennie | Pawel is gone :P | 15:42 |
| Lennie | can't do it now | 15:42 |
| madrazr | Lennie: ha ha :D crying delayed by a day :P | 15:42 |
| Lennie | mwah I can tell you know, we are going to kick you out of GSoC :p | 15:43 |
| Lennie | and into GHOP | 15:43 |
| madrazr | Lennie: LoL! thanks. But you are not going to kick me out of Melange, right? :D | 15:43 |
| Lennie | ^^ | 15:43 |
| madrazr | Lennie: Ha Ha Ha, ROFLMAO | 15:43 |
| madrazr | Lennie: accepted :P | 15:44 |
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| Lennie | ooo | 15:46 |
| Lennie | Merio | 15:46 |
| Lennie | you just missed our meeting | 15:46 |
| Merio | Ouch... sorry about that :( | 15:46 |
| Lennie | how's the house scouting going? | 15:46 |
| Lennie | doesn't matter, you were not here for a good cause | 15:46 |
| Lennie | found anythign yet> | 15:47 |
| Merio | Something yes, today we've seen a very promising house, but only 12 month lease :( | 15:47 |
| Merio | We don't know now if we're going to stay here so much | 15:48 |
| Lennie | http://www.google.org/flutrends/ | 15:49 |
| Lennie | omg :S | 15:49 |
| tpb | Title: Google Flu Trends (at www.google.org) | 15:49 |
| Lennie | go google :D | 15:50 |
| Merio | Lennie: so we're going tomorrow to an house we've visited yesterday, because seems ok and we want to move away fast from the hostel ^__^ | 15:50 |
| Lennie | Merio k, internet available :)? | 15:50 |
| Merio | Lennie: Seems not, but I'm going to look for a 3G usb key or something like that, like www.meteor.ie | 15:51 |
| Lennie | ok | 15:52 |
| Lennie | leech wireless from neighbours :P | 15:52 |
| Lennie | how long will you be online today Merio? | 15:52 |
| Lennie | aka, will you be here in an hour | 15:53 |
| Lennie | Pawel wants to have a word with you :) | 15:53 |
| Merio | Lennie: yep :) | 15:53 |
| Lennie | k cool | 15:53 |
| madrazr | Lennie: SRabbelier: I updated the wiki, let me know if something is wrong | 15:53 |
| madrazr | may be language issues also? | 15:54 |
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| SRabbelier | madrazr: will check | 15:54 |
| Lennie | madrazr | 15:54 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: awesome thanks | 15:54 |
| Lennie | you added the last piece? | 15:54 |
| Lennie | everything udner <type 'exceptions.ImportError?'> | 15:54 |
| Lennie | ? | 15:54 |
| madrazr | Lennie: yes | 15:54 |
| madrazr | Lennie: yeah | 15:54 |
| Lennie | looks awesome :) | 15:55 |
| madrazr | Lennie: :) | 15:55 |
| Merio | Going to eat, there's no plug there and the battery is low... so I'll be back in half an hour ^__^ | 15:56 |
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| madrazr | Lennie: SRabbelier: should I also say, you need to restart the server after you replace that line? | 15:57 |
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| Lennie | madrazr, not a bad idea | 15:58 |
| Lennie | off to do the dishes | 15:58 |
| madrazr | Lennie: done | 15:58 |
| *** Lennie is now known as Lennie|Gone | 15:59 | |
| * madrazr seriously thinks Google must think about changing GSoC to Google Spring of Code or Google Autumn of Code :D | 16:00 | |
| madrazr | it is so hot during summer to sit and code :D | 16:01 |
| diones | south hemisphery ftw | 16:01 |
| madrazr | diones: LoL! I was expecting some one to say this :P | 16:02 |
| madrazr | diones: where are you from? | 16:02 |
| diones | Brazil | 16:02 |
| madrazr | diones: cool! | 16:02 |
| diones | you are from india? | 16:02 |
| madrazr | diones: yeah | 16:02 |
| diones | ah good :) | 16:02 |
| diones | how did you heard about melange? | 16:03 |
| madrazr | diones: lh's announcements? | 16:04 |
| madrazr | friends | 16:04 |
| madrazr | diones: in many ways | 16:04 |
| diones | wow | 16:04 |
| madrazr | diones: I have been idling here doing no work from at least 8 months now :D | 16:04 |
| diones | the community must be strong over there | 16:05 |
| diones | same here | 16:05 |
| madrazr | diones: which community? | 16:05 |
| diones | programmers and such | 16:05 |
| madrazr | diones: Oh yeah, Linus Torvalds once said, "Talk is Cheap, Show me the Code". Many here are trying to prove him wrong ;-) | 16:06 |
| madrazr | and want to prove, "Code is cheap, show me the talk" ;-) | 16:06 |
| diones | hahahahaha | 16:06 |
| diones | they both seems true | 16:07 |
| madrazr | diones: LoL! :D | 16:07 |
| madrazr | diones: how is the FOSS community over there? | 16:07 |
| diones | its strong in its own way I guess | 16:08 |
| madrazr | diones: own way? | 16:08 |
| diones | there are many people using | 16:08 |
| madrazr | diones: awesome! | 16:09 |
| diones | but litle talk about adding anything to it | 16:09 |
| madrazr | diones: Oh Ok | 16:09 |
| diones | its like a boys club or something | 16:10 |
| diones | boys-only* | 16:10 |
| madrazr | diones: heh Ok :) | 16:10 |
| madrazr | LoL! :D | 16:10 |
| diones | xD | 16:10 |
| madrazr | diones: you wanted it to be glamorous? ;-) :D | 16:10 |
| * madrazr runs | 16:10 | |
| diones | what do you mean? | 16:11 |
| madrazr | diones: you don't want it to be boys-only club I asked | 16:11 |
| madrazr | ? | 16:11 |
| diones | sure not | 16:11 |
| madrazr | diones: Ok | 16:11 |
| diones | I mean it must be everybody announcing open source projects and such | 16:12 |
| diones | damn | 16:12 |
| madrazr | diones: Ok | 16:13 |
| diones | the teachers talk about making their projects opensource, usin free tooks and such but they make no effort in publishing their work to the community | 16:14 |
| diones | madrazr: all they care is papers and title | 16:14 |
| madrazr | diones: thats sad, but really good to know teachers know about Open Source at least | 16:14 |
| madrazr | diones: I understand | 16:15 |
| diones | hahahahaha | 16:15 |
| diones | thats a progress I guess :) | 16:15 |
| madrazr | diones: yeah, but we have failed here to make that progress | 16:15 |
| diones | madrazr: really? | 16:16 |
| madrazr | diones: I have been part of our school LUG from past 3 years and LUG exists from 7 years now, and our teachers still don't know the difference between a Freeware, Free Software and Open Source Software | 16:16 |
| madrazr | tell them you get the source code of Kernel like Linux, they won't believe :P | 16:16 |
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| diones | madrazr: Lol | 16:17 |
| diones | madrazr: Thats a private school? | 16:18 |
| madrazr | diones: private school? | 16:18 |
| madrazr | diones: the situation is same almost through out the country | 16:18 |
| diones | oh | 16:18 |
| madrazr | diones: you can really really count the number of profs who know and care about FOSS | 16:18 |
| madrazr | diones: but from what I see and have heard, Europe is very much aware about FOSS and stuff | 16:21 |
| diones | Ah, sure | 16:21 |
| madrazr | diones: the ohloh.net maps speak for that | 16:21 |
| madrazr | diones: our team proves that too :P | 16:21 |
| diones | true :) | 16:21 |
| diones | Well my school have changed over time | 16:22 |
| madrazr | diones: as in? | 16:22 |
| diones | the professors that teach now where the one that studied here | 16:23 |
| madrazr | diones: ah coolness! | 16:23 |
| diones | so I guess that it contributed to the FOSS awareness | 16:23 |
| madrazr | diones: sooper | 16:23 |
| diones | we host a sourceforge server over here :) | 16:24 |
| madrazr | diones: cool | 16:24 |
| diones | well I have to go now | 16:25 |
| madrazr | diones: me too | 16:25 |
| madrazr | diones: catch you later | 16:25 |
| diones | see you too | 16:25 |
| madrazr | it was nice talking to you bye | 16:25 |
| diones | bye | 16:25 |
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| Lennie | Erant | 16:27 |
| Lennie | http://code.google.com/p/soc/source/detail?r=76707dc77b3388c55314d47c2c56a224b512bbfa | 16:27 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/3-HU> (at code.google.com) | 16:27 |
| Erant | Hmm? | 16:28 |
| Erant | Ah | 16:28 |
| Erant | much obliged. | 16:28 |
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| Lennie | hi Merio | 16:37 |
| Lennie | solydzajs, you should be here in 1 min :p | 16:37 |
| Merio | hi Lennie :) back | 16:37 |
| Merio | Battery is a little bit low, but should suit 15 minutes or so ^__^ ... these are times when you appreciate having an house ^__^ | 16:38 |
| Lennie | there is no plug in the hostel? | 16:39 |
| Lennie | just take out a light :P | 16:39 |
| Merio | Yes, there are two plugs nearby but they're in use | 16:39 |
| Lennie | :( | 16:39 |
| Merio | I could try to short circuit the microwave :P | 16:39 |
| Merio | However if all goes well tomorrow we'll take that house, and be stable on May 1st :) | 16:41 |
| Lennie | ^^ | 16:42 |
| Lennie | cool | 16:42 |
| Merio | I need to make an habit of this weather :) From T-shirt in Italy to jackets here is quite difficult :P | 16:44 |
| Lennie | :D | 16:44 |
| Lennie | welcome to Netherlands :P | 16:44 |
| Lennie | (we have the same kind of crap weather) | 16:45 |
| Merio | Well,... it's so rainy there too? | 16:46 |
| Lennie | not now | 16:46 |
| Lennie | but usually yes | 16:46 |
| Merio | I was surprised yesterday when it was really sunny... and then suddenly it was rainy without even understanding what was happening :P | 16:48 |
| solydzajs | Lennie: I'm back | 16:48 |
| Merio | hi solydzajs ^__^ | 16:48 |
| Lennie | solydzajs, meet merio :p | 16:49 |
| solydzajs | Merio: yo :-) did you read the backlog of testing meeting ?;-) | 16:49 |
| Lennie | he couldn't | 16:49 |
| Lennie | or is the correct link of the logs in topic :P? | 16:50 |
| Lennie | (nope | 16:50 |
| Lennie | http://ibot.rikers.org/%23melange is very old lol :D | 16:50 |
| tpb | Title: ibot/jbot logs for 2009 (at ibot.rikers.org) | 16:50 |
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| lh | i haz stupid question | 16:51 |
| Merio | solydzajs: not yet | 16:51 |
| solydzajs | Merio: ok cool have a look here http://www.thousandparsec.net/~irc/logm/ | 16:52 |
| tpb | Title: IRC logs (at www.thousandparsec.net) | 16:52 |
| solydzajs | lh: yes ?;-) | 16:52 |
| Lennie | Merio's batteries are low :D | 16:52 |
| lh | solydzajs: i am looking for link hang on :) | 16:52 |
| Merio | Going to read :) | 16:52 |
| Lennie | just ask him if he wants to help :P | 16:52 |
| solydzajs | lh: ok :-) | 16:52 |
| Merio | Yes... laptop's and mine ^__^ ^__^ | 16:52 |
| Merio | But the laptop has the lowest battery life :P | 16:52 |
| solydzajs | Merio: I would you to help me with seed_db improvements and special view for seed_db a little bit of forms and js magic as part of testing work in community bonding period | 16:53 |
| Merio | solydzajs: I'll be happy to do that... seed_db ftw ^__^ | 16:53 |
| solydzajs | Merio: so it's going to be partially python backend work with seed_db.py module and the rest js and forms on frontend | 16:54 |
| solydzajs | Merio: you will touch a little bit of everything ;-) | 16:54 |
| lh | solydzajs: nm, answered my own dumb question | 16:54 |
| Merio | solydzajs: perfect, should be great python/GAE training course before GSoC coding! | 16:54 |
| solydzajs | Merio: yes and you will get familiar with all the models :-) | 16:55 |
| solydzajs | lh: okie dokie ;-) but remember no question is dumb :-) | 16:55 |
| Merio | solydzajs: Yes, this is the best thing, so I'll be confident on retrieving the data from the DB too :) | 16:55 |
| Merio | (battery can leave me anytime now ... :( ) | 16:56 |
| MatthewWilkes | but announcing a question is coming rather than just asking would get people shouted at in many places ;) (but not you, and not here!) | 16:56 |
| solydzajs | Merio: cool :-) I will contact you regarding seed_db soon you can have a look at it in the upcoming day or two and also have alook at soc/content/seed_db.html | 16:56 |
| Lennie | [C] zegt: | 16:56 |
| Lennie | moeten even kijken met Tristan en Bas of we die mee kunnen sleuren | 16:56 |
| Lennie | Erant! | 16:56 |
| Lennie | Star Trek calls :P | 16:56 |
| Merio | solydzajs: that's ok for me, hope tomorrow will be the last day for house seeking than I'll be yours :P | 16:57 |
| Lennie | :D | 16:58 |
| Lennie | Merio, when is the housewarming :P | 16:58 |
| lh | solydzajs: oh i dunno i ask many dumb questions | 16:59 |
| Merio | Lennie: no friends to call ATM, will try to ask my future neigbours :P | 16:59 |
| Erant | HMM? | 16:59 |
| Lennie | invite james--crook :P | 16:59 |
| Merio | Lennie: you're right! | 16:59 |
| Erant | You don't have to drag me along | 16:59 |
| Erant | I will come of my own free will ;) | 16:59 |
| solydzajs | lh: it's a matter of perspective :-) I can ask you a lot of questions too that I think will be dumb and I should know the answer too but I don't and you do :-) | 17:00 |
| MatthewWilkes | Lennie: How sad would it be for me to go to an early showing of star trek on my own? | 17:01 |
| Lennie | MatthewWilkes, I would worship you | 17:01 |
| Lennie | that's sad :) | 17:01 |
| MatthewWilkes | lol | 17:02 |
| lh | solydzajs: ok fair | 17:02 |
| MatthewWilkes | The only person I know who would want to seen it has seen it already :( | 17:02 |
| Lennie | hehe | 17:07 |
| Lennie | that other friend of yours? | 17:07 |
| Lennie | lucker :) | 17:07 |
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| MatthewWilkes | Lennie: Damn you and your big bang theory | 17:34 |
| Lennie | ? | 17:34 |
| MatthewWilkes | Watching the episode with Leonard's mother | 17:34 |
| Lennie | :D | 17:34 |
| Lennie | hahaha | 17:34 |
| MatthewWilkes | Damn them | 17:34 |
| Lennie | that one is awesome | 17:34 |
| MatthewWilkes | Damn them to hell | 17:34 |
| Lennie | analyzing everything :P | 17:34 |
| MatthewWilkes | It's not quite as bad as scrubs, but still, damn those writers | 17:37 |
| Lennie | ? | 17:38 |
| Lennie | what | 17:38 |
| Lennie | you find it bad? | 17:38 |
| Lennie | you find scrubs bad? | 17:38 |
| Lennie | get the hell out of my channel :P | 17:38 |
| Lennie | scrubs is awesome | 17:38 |
| MatthewWilkes | No, I mean the "nerdy guy and incredibly hot woman" plot device that scrubs uses every week and TBBT just used | 17:41 |
| Lennie | scrubs uses that... | 17:42 |
| Lennie | lol | 17:42 |
| Lennie | maybe kinda | 17:42 |
| Lennie | but the jokes are awesome :p | 17:42 |
| MatthewWilkes | Oh, yes, but it always leaves me cursing their names for getting that job! | 17:42 |
| Lennie | lol | 17:44 |
| Lennie | what job btw? | 17:44 |
| Lennie | acting? | 17:44 |
| MatthewWilkes | Actor in tv series that uses the nerdy guy, hot girl plot device, of course! :P | 17:44 |
| Lennie | :D | 17:45 |
| Lennie | hehe | 17:45 |
| Lennie | why can't life be like that :P? | 17:45 |
| SRabbelier | Lennie: lol | 17:48 |
| SRabbelier | Lennie: on that note! | 17:48 |
| * SRabbelier goes to watch BBT | 17:48 | |
| Lennie | have fun :P | 17:49 |
| Lennie | gonna watch family guy | 17:49 |
| Lennie | ttyal | 17:49 |
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| SRabbelier | Lennie: have fun yourself :P | 17:49 |
| MatthewWilkes | Stewroids? Decent enough ep | 17:49 |
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