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| mithro-andy | hey | 06:23 |
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| mithro-andy | no tab complete on this irc client :( | 06:25 |
| mithro-andy | pawel - you about? | 06:25 |
| ajuonline | fIRC sucks :/ | 06:25 |
| ajuonline | i use ConnectBot + screen + irssi | 06:25 |
| * mithro-andy will loose power on his andy soon | 06:26 | |
| MatthewWilkes | mithro-andy: fIRC tab complete is the magnifying glass button | 06:26 |
| mithro-andy | oh? | 06:32 |
| mithro-andy | cool | 06:32 |
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| danderson | SRabbelier: ping | 10:59 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: pong? | 11:00 |
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| solydzajs | danderson: finally Mercurial support :-) | 13:47 |
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| madrazr | solydzajs: yay! Mercurial ftw :D | 14:46 |
| durin42 | solydzajs: should I get conversion stuff ready for our history so it can be all pretty? | 14:52 |
| solydzajs | durin42: I first need to get reply from Google Project Hosting admin and then we are good to go | 14:54 |
| durin42 | solydzajs: I'd recommend an authormap and the whole bit | 14:54 |
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| danderson | solydzajs: hi | 15:03 |
| danderson | I'm a google code admin :P | 15:03 |
| danderson | as soon as you're ready to push the hg repos, I can flip the switch | 15:03 |
| danderson | (once I find it) | 15:03 |
| danderson | SRabbelier: pong | 15:03 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: yo :) | 15:03 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: ping | 15:03 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: pong | 15:04 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: heya | 15:04 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: you have a full hg Melange clone already? | 15:04 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: in that case I won't bother with git fast-export and hg fast-import :P | 15:04 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: I have one ready made!!! | 15:05 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: I do | 15:05 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: minus r3something wasn't it? :P | 15:05 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: it's on bitbucket | 15:05 |
| danderson | hrm, looks like there's no in-interface switch | 15:05 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: so, how do I go about using hg with git? ;) | 15:05 |
| danderson | spamming google code engineers | 15:05 |
| durin42 | http://bitbucket.org/durin42/melange/ | 15:05 |
| tpb | Title: durin42 / melange / overview bitbucket.org (at bitbucket.org) | 15:05 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: smack them over the head :P | 15:05 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: minus? | 15:05 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: to use hg as a git client? That's an SoC project I'm mentoring. | 15:05 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: other way around | 15:05 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: I have the full history and I am at SVN head | 15:06 |
| solydzajs | danderson: ok great thanks :-) | 15:06 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: I'm using git, and want to stay a Melagne committer :P | 15:06 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: ah, I thought there was one revision that was problematic so you started at r1000? | 15:06 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: I thought you said you'd use hg since it wasn't svn? | 15:06 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: no I actually did not give up, I cloned from r0 :D | 15:06 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: well, yes, use it as a host :P | 15:06 |
| durin42 | Also, I'd recommend re-converting history to clean up the ugly-ass author names | 15:06 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: I have a .mailmap if you want it | 15:07 |
| danderson | I have an engineer | 15:07 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: I assume hg works with something like that | 15:07 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: don't let him get away! | 15:07 |
| madrazr | durin42: I still did not like the idea of taking out hg svn pull :( It was way to comfortable :( | 15:07 |
| * SRabbelier wishes frigging Ubuntu 9.04 would play nice with VMWare Tools | 15:07 | |
| danderson | are you *sure* your hg repository is ready for pushing? | 15:07 |
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| danderson | I'd hate to have to ask to flip the switch back so that you can get a proper clone organized :P | 15:07 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: we can't unpush later can we? | 15:07 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: lol :) | 15:08 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: git filter-branch ftw | 15:08 |
| durin42 | I wouldn't recommend just using mine, the author names are gross | 15:08 |
| durin42 | make an authormap, reclone, it'll take almost no time | 15:08 |
| durin42 | I can do it if wanted, I already have an svnsync of melange | 15:08 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: I can send my my .malmap and you can python it to a proper authormap? | 15:08 |
| durin42 | .malmap? | 15:08 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: +many on the svnsync | 15:09 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: yes :P | 15:09 |
| danderson | okay, ping me when you're ready and I'll poke the engineers to flip the switch | 15:09 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: what's this authormap look like? | 15:10 |
| danderson | as the spams say: you are pre-approved for an hg project! | 15:10 |
| danderson | just poke when the repo is ready for the initial push. | 15:10 |
| * danderson hangs around | 15:10 | |
| SRabbelier | danderson: you happen to know anyone that uses VMWare? | 15:10 |
| danderson | no | 15:10 |
| danderson | why? | 15:10 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: see above :P | 15:11 |
| danderson | oh | 15:11 |
| danderson | nfi, sorry | 15:11 |
| danderson | I use virtualbox for my virtualization needs | 15:11 |
| danderson | FOSS ftw | 15:11 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: perhaps I should switch | 15:11 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: does virtualbox need any magic to work? | 15:12 |
| danderson | SRabbelier: depends what your needs are | 15:13 |
| danderson | but in general, it's a VMWare desktop like system | 15:13 |
| danderson | create your VM, boot it, foom, it's in a window on your desktop | 15:13 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: there's docs | 15:13 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: in general tho | 15:13 |
| durin42 | lisppaste9: help | 15:13 |
| lisppaste9 | To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/melange and enter your paste. | 15:13 |
| tpb | Title: Enter your paste (at paste.lisp.org) | 15:13 |
| danderson | they also have guest OS tools like vmware, to share clipboards, have the focus transition in/out of the VM seamlessly, that kind of fun | 15:13 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: right, how's the networking support and drag/drop? | 15:14 |
| lisppaste9 | durin42 pasted "authormap example" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/79151 | 15:14 |
| tpb | Title: Paste number 79151: authormap example (at paste.lisp.org) | 15:14 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: looks like that | 15:14 |
| danderson | SRabbelier: define drag-drop | 15:14 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: drag files from host into guest and have it Just Work | 15:14 |
| danderson | networking support is basically the same as vmware: NATed, bridged, what have you | 15:14 |
| danderson | oh | 15:14 |
| danderson | never had the need | 15:14 |
| danderson | dunno | 15:14 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: and probably only want trunk, so do hg clone -r default to get rid of the other revs | 15:14 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: I can run this now, it'll be fast | 15:14 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: I can give you my .mailmap then, you could even sed it I think :P | 15:15 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: lisppaste it | 15:15 |
| danderson | SRabbelier: two things missing from the FOSS version which may be annoying for you: guest USB support and headless mode | 15:15 |
| danderson | (vbox has an open source version, and a free for private use/license for commercial use extended version) | 15:15 |
| lisppaste9 | SRabbelier pasted "Melange Mailmap" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/79152 | 15:16 |
| tpb | Title: Paste number 79152: Melange Mailmap (at paste.lisp.org) | 15:16 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: not quite what some of those lines mean | 15:16 |
| durin42 | eg, why are you there 3 times? | 15:16 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: because I'm known under three e-mail addresses | 15:17 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: which one should you be in hg land? | 15:17 |
| SRabbelier | "Sverre Rabbelier <[email protected]>" is what I use these days to commit under | 15:17 |
| durin42 | ok | 15:18 |
| durin42 | generating list of svn authors, re-syncing my mirror | 15:18 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: for the win :) | 15:18 |
| durin42 | will post a repo to bitbucket or something asap | 15:18 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: good, Imma poke around with git-hg | 15:18 |
| durin42 | Has James Crook committed anything, or just to the wiki? | 15:18 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: isn't dbently a Daniel not a David? | 15:21 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: yes he is | 15:21 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: that's my bad | 15:21 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: just wiki afaik | 15:21 |
| danderson | are you not porting the wiki with it? | 15:21 |
| danderson | or did I miss something about how the hg support works? | 15:21 |
| durin42 | danderson: wiki is still in svn right now | 15:21 |
| durin42 | but will become a separate repo | 15:22 |
| danderson | ah | 15:22 |
| danderson | k | 15:22 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: ORLY? | 15:22 |
| durin42 | lisppaste9: help | 15:24 |
| lisppaste9 | To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/melange and enter your paste. | 15:24 |
| tpb | Title: Enter your paste (at paste.lisp.org) | 15:24 |
| durin42 | who is forever.clp? | 15:25 |
| lisppaste9 | durin42 pasted "Take a look sverre, seem reasonable?" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/79153 | 15:27 |
| tpb | Title: Paste number 79153: Take a look sverre, seem reasonable? (at paste.lisp.org) | 15:27 |
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| durin42 | SRabbelier: poke, see most recent paste | 15:28 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: yes, lgtm | 15:28 |
| durin42 | found a real name for Chen Lunpeng, aka forever.clp | 15:29 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: correct | 15:29 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: running a test conversion now, will have full svnsync soon :) | 15:29 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: cool | 15:29 |
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| durin42 | SRabbelier: pushing a repo to bitbucket now | 15:38 |
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| SRabbelier | danderson: omg, windows xp fail | 15:41 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: just had to click thorugh about 15 "OMG THIS HAS NOT BEEN TESTED BY MS!!" | 15:41 |
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| danderson | heh | 15:43 |
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| SRabbelier | danderson: aaarg, virtualbox doesn't have a "run in background" button? | 16:00 |
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| danderson | SRabbelier: not the open source version. The free for private use version has a headless operation mode | 16:01 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: that's the one I downloaded; where is it hiding? :P | 16:02 |
| danderson | how are we doing for the conversion? | 16:02 |
| danderson | I'm getting prodded by google code folks :P | 16:02 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: poke | 16:02 |
| danderson | oh, btw | 16:04 |
| danderson | http://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/MercurialStatus | 16:04 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/3+4I> (at code.google.com) | 16:04 |
| danderson | please make sure that "what doesn't work" has no showstoppers for melange | 16:04 |
| danderson | all will be fixed in the coming month or so | 16:04 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: ok, lemme see | 16:04 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: no problems | 16:04 |
| * SRabbelier stars them all for the heck of it | 16:05 | |
| danderson | google code eng is flipping the switch | 16:05 |
| danderson | svn remains accessible after flipping | 16:05 |
| danderson | so I told them to just do it | 16:06 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: ah, awesomeness | 16:06 |
| * SRabbelier checks | 16:06 | |
| danderson | not yet, wait for it | 16:07 |
| danderson | "hold on", they sez | 16:07 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: I'm guessing they are doing direct datastore manipulation to flip the switch? :P | 16:07 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: "interactive console" ftw | 16:08 |
| danderson | yeah | 16:08 |
| danderson | no UI yet, since it's just trusted testers | 16:08 |
| danderson | so it's a bit of bigtable bit twiddling to get stuff initialize | 16:08 |
| danderson | +d | 16:08 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: don't that sound familiar | 16:09 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: I did so much 'bit twiddling' last Monday for Melange it's not even funny :P | 16:09 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: it's taking a while, no? | 16:15 |
| danderson | yeah | 16:15 |
| danderson | repoking | 16:15 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: lol, I think he's forgot :P | 16:15 |
| danderson | nah | 16:15 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: ooh, I dig seamless mode | 16:17 |
| danderson | ? | 16:17 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: in virtualbox | 16:18 |
| danderson | oh | 16:18 |
| solydzajs | yo | 16:18 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: what have you asked about ? | 16:18 |
| * solydzajs reading backlog | 16:18 | |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: forgot | 16:19 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: "SRabbelier: solydzajs: that's the one I downloaded; where is it hiding?" | 16:19 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: mustof been a lie :P | 16:19 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: shouldof been danderson | 16:19 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: ok | 16:19 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: got a convert | 16:21 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: sweet! | 16:22 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: how's the bit"? | 16:22 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: http://bitbucket.org/durin42/melange/ | 16:22 |
| tpb | Title: durin42 / melange / overview bitbucket.org (at bitbucket.org) | 16:22 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: durin42: Please don't commit any stuff yet to hg repo when it gets enabled. We need to discuss what we are going to do exactly and how, I don't want some quick decisions and excitement to break something | 16:23 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: break something? | 16:24 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: what is there to break? | 16:24 |
| danderson | it's in progress | 16:24 |
| danderson | Ben got caught in a conversation | 16:24 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: ah, np :) | 16:25 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: I want to first discuss what conversion we are doing, what tools we are using, how the history will be restored etc. | 16:25 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: not to fast | 16:25 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: well that's easy :P | 16:25 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: there's only one tool for it really :) | 16:25 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: ^ | 16:25 |
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| danderson | SRabbelier: conversion is done | 16:26 |
| danderson | http://code.google.com/p/soc/source/checkout | 16:26 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: I wasn't going to commit, I wanted review on it | 16:26 |
| tpb | Title: Source Checkout - soc - Google Code (at code.google.com) | 16:26 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: there are two tools, but I already ran it with one | 16:26 |
| durin42 | the authormap format is the same tho | 16:26 |
| durin42 | and you'd likely get the same exact revs with hg convert | 16:27 |
| danderson | push the initial repo to https://soc.googlecode.com/hg | 16:27 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: exactly | 16:27 |
| solydzajs | danderson: is the SVN still accessible ? | 16:27 |
| danderson | yes, but not via the source code browser | 16:27 |
| solydzajs | danderson: ok | 16:27 |
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| SRabbelier | durin42: you forgot yourself ;) | 16:28 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: we need to fix the release script now to use hg:-) | 16:28 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: huh? | 16:28 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: that autolinked to my account on bitbucket | 16:28 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: all the better | 16:28 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: yep | 16:28 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: oooh, ok :) | 16:28 |
| durin42 | because bitbucket is teh smart | 16:29 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: how are you going to use git with hg ? | 16:29 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: I'll see | 16:29 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: probably with git-hg :) | 16:29 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: GSoC project ?;-) | 16:29 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: depending on how hard to use it is I might switch to Hg | 16:29 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: got it | 16:29 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: mhhh, I can't change the host key :-/ | 16:31 |
| danderson | the what key? | 16:32 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: host key in virtualbox, the 'get out of the keyboard capture' key | 16:33 |
| SRabbelier | (right ctrl by default) | 16:33 |
| danderson | oh | 16:33 |
| danderson | sorry, never changed it, can't help | 16:33 |
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| SRabbelier | danderson: ah, ok :) | 16:35 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: guess I'll have to re-train my fingers | 16:35 |
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| danderson | so, what's holding up the push? | 16:38 |
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| SRabbelier | danderson: solydzajs is | 16:39 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: see above | 16:39 |
| danderson | oh | 16:39 |
| solydzajs | who wants to push it ? | 16:40 |
| danderson | well, you can always push and correct later | 16:40 |
| danderson | push -f and all :P | 16:41 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: is that enabled?! | 16:41 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: sweeet!! | 16:41 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: I thought some r-tard decided to turn that off | 16:41 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: because, you-know, users are idiots, and god-forgot they shoot themselves in the foot | 16:41 |
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| danderson | eh? | 16:42 |
| danderson | we enabled user-initiated reset of svn repositories, why would we prevent borking hg repos too? | 16:42 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: http://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/DVCSAnalysis | 16:42 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/3+5E> (at code.google.com) | 16:42 |
| danderson | the repo can also be reset if you want to repush something else | 16:42 |
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| SRabbelier | danderson: "Â It should be noted, however, that a custom Git server could be written to disallow the loss of data, so this advantage is minimal." | 16:43 |
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| danderson | so? It's an analysis, not a design doc, nor an implementation | 16:43 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: yeah, I'm glad it wasn't followed :P | 16:44 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: that option I mean | 16:44 |
| danderson | in any case, there is still the option to reset the repository | 16:45 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: I has a happy :) | 16:48 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: ping | 16:53 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: pong | 16:53 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: see above? | 16:54 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: reading one sec | 16:54 |
| solydzajs | ok awesome | 16:56 |
| solydzajs | so who will push it ? | 16:56 |
| solydzajs | who has it ready for push ? | 16:56 |
| durin42 | are we happy with my conversion? | 16:59 |
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| SRabbelier | durin42: looks fine at a glance :) | 17:02 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: and if not, *shrugs* | 17:02 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: I still have my Melange.git copy if we ever realize that your conversion is fscked :P | 17:02 |
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| * SRabbelier installs hg | 17:03 | |
| durin42 | solydzajs: you happy with my conversion? | 17:05 |
| ArthurLiu | hg ftw | 17:05 |
| ArthurLiu | :p | 17:06 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: any hg plugins that I should be aware off / install, without which my hg experience is lacking? :P | 17:06 |
| solydzajs | durin42: yes, I'm just thinking that we loose comments and code reviews right ? | 17:06 |
| durin42 | solydzajs: not sure. | 17:07 |
| ArthurLiu | SRabbelier, meld, crecord, graphlog, mq, hgk, transplant | 17:07 |
| durin42 | solydzajs: yes, we loose those | 17:07 |
| durin42 | then again, review-before-commit sucks so much less with a DVCS | 17:07 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: very true | 17:08 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: plus, we are done firefighting | 17:08 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: less time-pressure to get stuff commited yesterday | 17:08 |
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| solydzajs | durin42: ok go ahead and push it, we have nothing to loose :-) | 17:10 |
| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: I like the sound of graphlog and transplant, since I recognise them from git | 17:11 |
| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: but what's meld, crecord, mq and hgk do? | 17:11 |
| ArthurLiu | meld is über cool, it displays all changes against index in a single meld instance | 17:11 |
| ArthurLiu | you can do it between arbitrary revisions too | 17:11 |
| * SRabbelier doesn't know meld though | 17:12 | |
| ArthurLiu | it's like xxdiff, kdiff3, etc | 17:12 |
| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: aah, ok | 17:12 |
| danderson | have you pushed yet? | 17:12 |
| ArthurLiu | it also allows you to resolve merge conflicts with graphical 3-way merges | 17:12 |
| SRabbelier | we need to update our wiki | 17:12 |
| danderson | I'd like to give feedback to the team so that they can poke around in your project and make sure everything is good. | 17:12 |
| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: fancy that, but so far I've found none that were easier to use than vim with inline conflict markers :P | 17:13 |
| ArthurLiu | crecord lets you stage/commit on a hunks basis | 17:13 |
| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: I need that one :P | 17:13 |
| ArthurLiu | SRabbelier, inline is dangerous, you tend to miss them | 17:13 |
| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: I'm addicted to 'git add -e' | 17:13 |
| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: Why is that? searching for '<<<<' is plenty obvious? | 17:13 |
| ArthurLiu | meld merges gives you the three files side by side | 17:14 |
| * SRabbelier nods | 17:14 | |
| ArthurLiu | and you can push hunks between them | 17:14 |
| solydzajs | durin42: are you pushing ? | 17:15 |
| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: sounds nice, I"ll give it a try for sure :) | 17:15 |
| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: so what's mq and hgk? | 17:15 |
| ArthurLiu | one click/keystroke is better than cleaning up >>>> and == and <<< | 17:15 |
| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: oh, nvm hgk, I see the link to gitk :P | 17:15 |
| ArthurLiu | mq is the patch queue editor | 17:15 |
| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: never bothered me :P | 17:15 |
| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: oh, mhhh, I've never used those in git | 17:15 |
| ArthurLiu | it lets you modify history | 17:15 |
| durin42 | solydzajs: I can, email me if you want me to, I'm going home. | 17:15 |
| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: never found the need for it since we have rebase --interactive | 17:15 |
| ArthurLiu | for example, you can fold commits before pushing | 17:16 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: can I do it by cloning your bitbucket repo and pushing? | 17:16 |
| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: right, so that's all basic rebasing stuff right? | 17:16 |
| ArthurLiu | with git you can easily amend but it gets complicated if you want to do it further in the past | 17:16 |
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| solydzajs | SRabbelier: yep I think you should be able to do it like that | 17:16 |
| ArthurLiu | mq is pretty powerfull | 17:17 |
| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: how so? | 17:17 |
| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: you mean that if you want to edit HEAD~40 you have to change one line in the entire rebase script and then wait for it to finish rebasing? | 17:17 |
| ArthurLiu | hum, yeah, I forgot than folding can be easy, but editing out something is not as easy in git | 17:18 |
| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: it's not? | 17:18 |
| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: change the 'pick' line to 'edit' | 17:18 |
| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: and go wil on the commit? | 17:18 |
| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: split it into 20 commits if you want | 17:19 |
| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: and 'git rebase --continue' will do the rest | 17:19 |
| * SRabbelier wonders how anyone can say svn is superior after just having cloned the entire Melange repo in under 30s | 17:19 | |
| SRabbelier | I think a regular svn checkout takes longer than that | 17:19 |
| ArthurLiu | http://www.selenic.com/mercurial/wiki/index.cgi/MqExtension | 17:20 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/3+64> (at www.selenic.com) | 17:20 |
| ArthurLiu | also http://www.selenic.com/mercurial/wiki/index.cgi/EditingHistory | 17:21 |
| ArthurLiu | anyway | 17:21 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1s03> (at www.selenic.com) | 17:21 |
| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: ah, thanks! | 17:21 |
| danderson | SRabbelier: please add path-based access control restrictions to comply with the requirements of SOX auditors. | 17:21 |
| danderson | Oh, wait, you can't :P | 17:21 |
| ArthurLiu | git can do most of what mq can but it's less intuitive | 17:21 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: lol, what are you saying? :P | 17:21 |
| ArthurLiu | "4.12. I committed a change containing nuclear launch codes, how do I delete it permanently?" | 17:21 |
| danderson | that universally bashing svn because it doesn't happen to be the best for this open source model is dumb. | 17:22 |
| ArthurLiu | danderson, I want local history, at least | 17:22 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: true, but that's what I'm using it for | 17:22 |
| danderson | There are many models, particularly in the enterprise space, where all dvcs are either missing showstopper features, or cannot accomodate needs by design | 17:22 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: I of course speak within my own context | 17:22 |
| ArthurLiu | and finally, hgk is like gitk | 17:23 |
| danderson | (dvcs has been studied within google, and rejected because of some of these flaws, the regulatory compliance one being the biggest fail) | 17:23 |
| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: thanks for the update! :) | 17:23 |
| danderson | sorry for the offtopicness, it just annoys me to see svn flamboyantly bashed by overconfident dvcs users | 17:24 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: no worries, svn has it's merrits | 17:24 |
| danderson | we don't make fun of git because it can't do some stuff, please respect the work of others likewise :) | 17:24 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: you didn't even mention media related stuff :P | 17:24 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: that's just impossible in most dcvses I know | 17:24 |
| SRabbelier | full history == world of pain, if you are in the game design buisness | 17:25 |
| danderson | size in general even | 17:25 |
| Erant | git is teh suck for OS interoperability. | 17:25 |
| Erant | SVN is far more widespread. | 17:25 |
| Erant | And doesn't have nearly as much of a learning curve. | 17:26 |
| danderson | svn has titanic deployments, both in open source and enterprise | 17:26 |
| danderson | attempts to convert these to the popular dvcs either fail outright due to internal implementation limitations, or the resulting repository is unusable due to assumptions in the design | 17:26 |
| Erant | All you need to know for SVN is Commit, Update, Checkout and Merge, basically. | 17:26 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: yeah, someone should have a look at that :P | 17:26 |
| ArthurLiu | Git is MacGyver, Mercurial is James Bond, Subversion is..? | 17:26 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: you don't need merge | 17:26 |
| danderson | ArthurLiu: a version control system | 17:27 |
| danderson | :P | 17:27 |
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| Erant | Git is like "so, I'm going to cherrypick this, then merge this branch, and then rebase to master. Next I will sacrifice a goat to the moongods, and everything will be fine." | 17:27 |
| danderson | Erant: at the extreme, you don't even need any of those | 17:27 |
| danderson | you don't have to know that version control exists | 17:27 |
| danderson | enable DAV autoversionning | 17:27 |
| danderson | repository becomes a WebDAV network drive | 17:27 |
| danderson | secretary can edit word documents in it, changes are committed transparently | 17:28 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: whatever you push to the drive is committed? | 17:28 |
| Erant | danderson: Ehm... Not sure I like this. | 17:28 |
| ArthurLiu | bah, I'm a branching-happy person and mercurial suits that perfectly :) | 17:28 |
| danderson | not a very clean history, but automatic change tracking and fine-grained backups | 17:28 |
| danderson | Erant: it's aimed at a different userbase, obviously | 17:28 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: poke | 17:28 |
| Erant | danderson: Anyone who cannot dev should keep their grubby paws off my SVN. | 17:28 |
| Erant | danderson: True | 17:28 |
| danderson | the userbase that accidentally deletes important documents | 17:28 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: pong | 17:28 |
| danderson | and doesn't have backup discipline | 17:29 |
| danderson | with this setup, you phone helpdesk and get them to svn cp -r 1234 into HEAD | 17:29 |
| Erant | danderson: I have DropBox for that | 17:29 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=cEJnWHctQjRjV3hyYTFEZEtCTXBRSHc6MA bottom question | 17:29 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/3+6F> (at spreadsheets.google.com) | 17:29 |
| danderson | and foom, document reappears in webdrive | 17:29 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: want a shirt too ;) | 17:29 |
| danderson | Erant: you trust external services with your sensitive/legal documents | 17:29 |
| danderson | not all companies do | 17:29 |
| danderson | same reason why not all companies use github, they prefer keeping it in the family | 17:30 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: sure register it again :-) | 17:30 |
| danderson | (not all companies that use git, that is) | 17:30 |
| Erant | danderson: Most do. They trust me with their sensitive/legal documents and more ;) | 17:30 |
| danderson | Erant: good for them, just saying that I also know of many who don't | 17:30 |
| solydzajs | danderson: are you attending Google I/O ? | 17:30 |
| Erant | danderson: (I work for a harddisk recovery company) | 17:30 |
| danderson | (or can't, for regulatory purposes) | 17:30 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: oh, ok | 17:30 |
| danderson | solydzajs: yes! | 17:31 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: awesome, we will meet you there then | 17:31 |
| danderson | I managed to shift my business trip to have google I/O bang slap in the middle | 17:31 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: you are? sweet! | 17:31 |
| Erant | danderson: Heh, not many companies have inhouse harddisk recovery. In fact, I don't know of any :P So you're going to have to trust me, or lose your data forever. | 17:31 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: when are you in MTV ? | 17:31 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: did you convince yoru boss, or did you take time off? :P | 17:31 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: aaah, awesomeneess! | 17:31 |
| danderson | Erant: well, you're in a fairly special line of work :) | 17:31 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: for my internship? | 17:31 |
| danderson | you're the last line of defense after epic fail :) | 17:31 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: eh it was for danderson :-) | 17:32 |
| solydzajs | danderson: when are you in MTV ? | 17:32 |
| danderson | um, good question | 17:32 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: our names are like, right next to eachother ;P | 17:32 |
| * danderson checks dates | 17:32 | |
| danderson | 26th May - 2nd June | 17:32 |
| danderson | -ish, depending on flights and such | 17:33 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: cool | 17:33 |
| solydzajs | danderson: we arrive 23rd May | 17:33 |
| solydzajs | danderson: and I leave 14th of June, Sverre and Lennie 30th of May I think | 17:33 |
| danderson | nice! Long stay :) | 17:33 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: something like that, aye | 17:33 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: http://code.google.com/p/soc/source/detail?r=2722 | 17:34 |
| solydzajs | danderson: I'm waiting for Apple WWDC 2009 which is 8-12 June | 17:34 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: code.google.com fail ;) | 17:34 |
| danderson | is google expensing your way for this developer summit? :) | 17:34 |
| danderson | SRabbelier: awesome, first bug! | 17:34 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: perhaps worth poking your engineer on :P | 17:34 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: yup, they are | 17:34 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: credit goes to Lennie | 17:34 |
| danderson | SRabbelier: Ben went offline | 17:34 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: (he found the bug) | 17:34 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: there is no history so what do you want to show ? | 17:35 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: I told you not to let go! :P | 17:35 |
| danderson | isn't there a reference in the email? | 17:35 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: not a 505? | 17:35 |
| danderson | for reporting bugs? | 17:35 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: true :-) | 17:35 |
| danderson | SRabbelier: 505? That's a 500 | 17:35 |
| solydzajs | danderson: you send your email to melange-dev from your private email :-) | 17:35 |
| danderson | happens whenever the backend serving the request epic-fails and hangs up on the frontend | 17:35 |
| Erant | SRabbelier: What, 23rd of may? You can't! There's an awesome 8 bit party on the 23rd. :( | 17:35 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: 5xx then :P | 17:35 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: sorry, free Google flight > party | 17:35 |
| solydzajs | danderson: the one that you signed The Google Code Team :-) | 17:36 |
| danderson | doesn't the email have info? | 17:36 |
| * danderson investigates | 17:36 | |
| Erant | But, but... bleepy music! | 17:36 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: bring me Metaaaaaal! and I'll contemplate | 17:36 |
| Erant | Dude. nerd--; | 17:36 |
| danderson | SRabbelier: please file at http://code.google.com/p/support/issues/entry\ | 17:37 |
| danderson | SRabbelier: add Component-Mercurial tag | 17:37 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: I will | 17:37 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: I can't | 17:37 |
| danderson | be sure to note that this occurs when no repo is pushed yet | 17:37 |
| danderson | it's likely an edge case that will get ironed out before public launch | 17:37 |
| danderson | SRabbelier: ? | 17:37 |
| ArthurLiu | SRabbelier, http://code.google.com/p/support/issues/entry | 17:38 |
| tpb | Title: Project hosting on Google Code (at code.google.com) | 17:38 |
| danderson | oh, I fail at adding a \ | 17:38 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: ok, will do | 17:38 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: can't add the tag | 17:38 |
| danderson | aaaah | 17:38 |
| danderson | yeah, I remember | 17:38 |
| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: got that much :P | 17:38 |
| ArthurLiu | :D | 17:38 |
| danderson | the Google Code team does bug triage | 17:38 |
| danderson | and adds the labels themselves | 17:38 |
| durin42 | solydzajs: pushing now, will be a few minutes I think | 17:38 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: yes, you could do that too :) | 17:38 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: you do it, I'm liable to blow stuff up | 17:39 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: right | 17:39 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: kk | 17:39 |
| danderson | SRabbelier: I wanted to make sure to get their attention, but any bug that is New goes through triage, so they won't miss it :) | 17:39 |
| solydzajs | durin42: awesome thanks | 17:39 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: fair enough :) | 17:40 |
| * durin42 waits for a password prompt | 17:41 | |
| SRabbelier | yay, hg has most everything I am used to from git ^_^ | 17:41 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: with extensions it should have everything | 17:42 |
| ArthurLiu | SRabbelier, then you will save a lot of manpage deciphering time :) | 17:42 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: see http://bitbucket.org/durin42/histedit/ for rebase --interactive | 17:42 |
| tpb | Title: durin42 / histedit / overview bitbucket.org (at bitbucket.org) | 17:42 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: wooooh, I has more happy | 17:42 |
| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: heheh, yes, and potentially you/augie bugging time :P | 17:43 |
| ArthurLiu | hehe, I'm looking forward to learning p4 this summer, hum | 17:43 |
| ArthurLiu | weird stuff | 17:44 |
| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: hehe, I'm not :P | 17:44 |
| durin42 | p4 is "alright" | 17:44 |
| durin42 | Most of its suck can be handled by using git as a client for it. If I ever have to work with it again, I'm making an hg client for it. | 17:44 |
| ArthurLiu | it's not packaged in debian :) | 17:45 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: heh, good :P | 17:50 |
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| SRabbelier | durin42: status on push? | 17:53 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: still waiting, it's acting really slow for some reason | 17:53 |
| durin42 | hasn't even prompted for a pw yet | 17:53 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: lol, great | 17:54 |
| durin42 | ah, there it goes, sending data | 17:55 |
| durin42 | had to restart it | 17:55 |
| * durin42 uses --debug to figure out what is going on | 17:55 | |
| durin42 | sending 37514358 bytes | 17:55 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: for the win | 17:56 |
| solydzajs | I think we are one of the first projects that got hg enabled after the announcement :D | 17:57 |
| durin42 | Still no non-google-owned projects tho | 17:58 |
| durin42 | to my knowledge | 17:58 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: statuszz? | 18:02 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: still running | 18:03 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: is your connection that slow, or is code.google.com failing? | 18:03 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: my connection is wicked slow | 18:03 |
| durin42 | Or something. | 18:03 |
| durin42 | Averaging around 50 kb/sec upload. | 18:03 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: hehe, ftl :P | 18:03 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: oh, that's about half of what I'd get, so not that bad | 18:03 |
| durin42 | still pushing... | 18:17 |
| durin42 | whee | 18:17 |
| ArthurLiu | hg lacks the nifty stats that git displays with long actions | 18:18 |
| durin42 | There's been some work towards that. | 18:18 |
| durin42 | I should pick it up and readd it. | 18:18 |
| durin42 | It's never really been finished. | 18:18 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: that'd be nice :) | 18:19 |
| durin42 | SRabbelier: it's *still* going, not sure what the Google server is doing. | 18:25 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: lol, nice | 18:26 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: maybe it's doing a little dance | 18:26 |
| solydzajs | :-) | 18:26 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: well, so much for my "yay for speed" thoughts | 18:27 |
| ArthurLiu | I don't remember, are pushes of multiple changesets atomic ? | 18:27 |
| durin42 | yes | 18:27 |
| ArthurLiu | mmh | 18:27 |
| ArthurLiu | you could push by chunks or something | 18:28 |
| durin42 | yeah, could | 18:28 |
| durin42 | this point, just gonna let it keep goin | 18:28 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: seems like a good idea :P | 18:28 |
| danderson | file bugs | 18:29 |
| durin42 | hm, network traffic just dropped off | 18:29 |
| danderson | slow push is something to document | 18:29 |
| danderson | esp. if you have a comparison to eg. bitbucket | 18:29 |
| durin42 | This is officially asurd. | 18:29 |
| danderson | again, complaining about it here will have *exactly* zero benefit, since no developers of the software can hear you :) | 18:30 |
| durin42 | Oh, *badass* | 18:30 |
| durin42 | sending 37514358 bytes | 18:30 |
| durin42 | abort: HTTP Error 502: Bad Gateway | 18:30 |
| durin42 | It sent the *entire* bundle. | 18:30 |
| durin42 | Then the GFE gave me the finger. | 18:30 |
| * danderson wonders if his microphone is turned on | 18:30 | |
| durin42 | danderson: are you still on a kickass GOOG network? | 18:31 |
| danderson | no, I'm at home | 18:31 |
| SRabbelier | durin42: lol, gotpwnd | 18:31 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: sounds like a good plan | 18:31 |
| danderson | furthermore, I'm going to sleep since I've been oncall all week and really need a night of >5 hours now and then | 18:31 |
| durin42 | danderson: go sleep | 18:32 |
| durin42 | I'm not sure what to do | 18:32 |
| danderson | file an issue, mark it high priority, and email Ben Collins-Sussman | 18:32 |
| durin42 | kk | 18:32 |
| danderson | he should be able to route to the right place | 18:32 |
| danderson | also try pushing again, in case. | 18:32 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: we can mark it hihg priority? :P | 18:32 |
| danderson | but the experience is suboptimal indeed. | 18:32 |
| solydzajs | epic fail :-) | 18:32 |
| danderson | SRabbelier: mailing Ben will mark it high priority. | 18:32 |
| durin42 | Yup :) | 18:33 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: ah, nice | 18:33 |
| danderson | In the meantime, development in svn is still possible, until the team can figure it out. | 18:33 |
| solydzajs | ok good | 18:33 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: http://code.google.com/p/support/issues/detail?id=2516 | 18:34 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/3+7j> (at code.google.com) | 18:34 |
| danderson | cool, one of the hg devs is still online then. | 18:35 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: it's like, 3:30pm in MTV | 18:35 |
| durin42 | danderson: http://code.google.com/p/support/issues/detail?id=2517 | 18:36 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/3+7o> (at code.google.com) | 18:36 |
| danderson | SRabbelier: and 5:30pm in Chicago, where the team is | 18:37 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: ah :) | 18:37 |
| durin42 | They're in my TZ | 18:37 |
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| SRabbelier | durin42: done? | 18:54 |
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| solydzajs | SRabbelier: ping | 18:58 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: http://code.google.com/p/soc/source/list | 18:58 |
| tpb | Title: Changes - soc - Google Code (at code.google.com) | 18:58 |
| solydzajs | durin42: http://code.google.com/p/soc/source/list | 18:58 |
| solydzajs | danderson: http://code.google.com/p/soc/source/list | 18:58 |
| danderson | nice | 18:59 |
| solydzajs | the link to Browse is broken tho | 19:00 |
| solydzajs | it is http://code.google.com/p/soc/source/browse/trunk/app/soc | 19:00 |
| solydzajs | should be | 19:00 |
| solydzajs | well it should be without trunk | 19:00 |
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| diones | SRabbelier: Hi? | 19:17 |
| SRabbelier | diones: heya | 19:17 |
| diones | SRabbelier: Ah, its good to see you again metaphorically | 19:19 |
| SRabbelier | diones: indeed :) | 19:19 |
| diones | SRabbelier: About the smoke tests | 19:19 |
| diones | should I go on with it? | 19:19 |
| SRabbelier | diones: yes! we're all going to be working on tests the next month | 19:19 |
| SRabbelier | diones: that is, all devs and GSoC students | 19:19 |
| diones | Yes I saw the agenda | 19:20 |
| diones | shouldn't I know something? | 19:20 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: fixed | 19:20 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: what do you mean? | 19:20 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: fixed ? | 19:20 |
| diones | I mean to not try to overlap the work of someone else? | 19:21 |
| diones | or the oposit? | 19:21 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: the broken rowse url | 19:22 |
| SRabbelier | diones: ah, we'll make sure to include you in the planning if you want to join in :) | 19:22 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: fixed true | 19:22 |
| diones | SRabbelier: Thats what I said previously :) | 19:22 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: I totally forgot about "Default browsing path:" | 19:23 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: ah, ok :) | 19:23 |
| SRabbelier | diones: awesome :) | 19:23 |
| diones | SRabbelier: Btw do you have that user view test that I 'almost' did? | 19:24 |
| SRabbelier | diones: should be in my inbox somewhere :P | 19:24 |
| diones | Ah I sent to you by email? | 19:24 |
| SRabbelier | diones: didn't you? | 19:25 |
| diones | SRabbelier: I don't remember doing that | 19:25 |
| SRabbelier | diones: ah, then you probably didn't :P | 19:26 |
| diones | I hope that I have it at home =/ | 19:26 |
| diones | SRabbelier: So how will I know about the tests thing? | 19:27 |
| diones | I forgot to ask | 19:27 |
| SRabbelier | diones: we're going to have a meeting about it soon | 19:28 |
| diones | 27 | 19:28 |
| diones | ? | 19:28 |
| diones | SRabbelier: So I should check the agenda after 27 or something? | 19:30 |
| solydzajs | diones: you should just stay up to date with posts on melange-soc and melange-soc-dev | 19:31 |
| solydzajs | diones: and when we start a thread about testing reply what you would like to work on | 19:31 |
| diones | Ok then | 19:32 |
| diones | ah, fine :) | 19:32 |
| solydzajs | diones: ok you can declare that whenever you want :-) you can start working on tests today if you want ;-) | 19:33 |
| diones | solydzajs: Ah good :) should I do that at the mailing list? | 19:34 |
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| solydzajs | diones: yes start a thread and mention what you would like to work on and we will start discussion where and how it should be done | 19:36 |
| solydzajs | diones: and you are good to go :-) | 19:37 |
| diones | solydzajs: Ah, thanks for the info :) | 19:38 |
| SRabbelier | diones: although if you do start today, don't feel bad if we reassign you :) | 19:38 |
| solydzajs | :D | 19:39 |
| diones | SRabbelier: Sure, its better to know now | 19:39 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: first commit? ;) | 19:40 |
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| solydzajs | SRabbelier: you want to try ?;-) | 19:44 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: hehe, I will tomorrow, if I can get the test suite working | 19:44 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: I need to add my svn commit to hg | 19:45 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: so I will try tomorrow too | 19:45 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: hehe :) | 19:45 |
| SRabbelier | ok | 19:45 |
| solydzajs | but hg ftw :-) | 19:45 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: anyway, am off to bed :) | 19:48 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: glad to be rid of svn | 19:48 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: g'night till tomorrow | 19:48 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: you too :) | 19:48 |
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| durin42 | So that was strange. | 20:29 |
| durin42 | I wonder what the lag was all about. | 20:29 |
| durin42 | solydzajs: I can convert your commit. | 20:35 |
| solydzajs | yep it was really strange | 20:35 |
| solydzajs | but you got error anyway | 20:36 |
| solydzajs | durin42: sure please do :-) | 20:36 |
| durin42 | heh | 20:37 |
| durin42 | can't push? | 20:37 |
| durin42 | Get the 404 on push now. Weird. | 20:37 |
| durin42 | solydzajs: http://bitbucket.org/durin42/melange/ can you clone that and see if you can push the new revision? | 20:38 |
| tpb | Title: durin42 / melange / overview bitbucket.org (at bitbucket.org) | 20:38 |
| solydzajs | durin42: clones but will push it tomorrow going to bed now | 20:46 |
| durin42 | solydzajs: just try running push and see if it 404's | 20:46 |
| solydzajs | s/clones/cloned | 20:46 |
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| durin42 | it'll take 2 seconds to verify the abort | 20:46 |
| solydzajs | but pushing to code.google.com you mean ? | 20:46 |
| durin42 | yah | 20:46 |
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| solydzajs | hmm | 20:48 |
| solydzajs | abort: authorization failed | 20:48 |
| solydzajs | ah crap | 20:48 |
| solydzajs | one sec | 20:48 |
| solydzajs | wrong pass | 20:48 |
| solydzajs | durin42: success | 20:49 |
| durin42 | o_O | 20:49 |
| durin42 | wild | 20:49 |
| durin42 | I wonder why it 404'ed for me | 20:49 |
| durin42 | Curiouser and curiouser. | 20:49 |
| solydzajs | experimental support :-) | 20:49 |
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