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| madrazr | SRabbelier: Hi | 09:37 |
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| SRabbelier | madrazr: heya! | 09:37 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: had been a long time since I spoke to you :P | 09:37 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: indeed :P | 09:38 |
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| ajuonline | ok guys, can students modify proposals after selection if the mentors want so? | 12:08 |
| ajuonline | lh: ^ | 12:08 |
| ajuonline | its likely that multiple students be selected for one idea and the work be divided. or scoped to more work. | 12:08 |
| ajuonline | which is unclear right now. | 12:09 |
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| decriptor | rumor has it that I need to come into here to get my student profile deleted so that I can become a mentor? | 12:53 |
| decriptor | if this is the case, what information is needed? | 12:57 |
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| diones | SRabbelier: Hi | 13:05 |
| SRabbelier | diones: heya | 13:05 |
| SRabbelier | ajuonline: yes, they can | 13:05 |
| SRabbelier | ajuonline: after they've been accepted, they can adjust the text of their project | 13:06 |
| SRabbelier | decriptor: rumor is right, please mail pawel.solyga at gmail.com with your request from the account that you have the student role on | 13:06 |
| decriptor | SRabbelier: thanks | 13:07 |
| diones | SRabbelier: I have tent a comment to my proposal with the ICal link | 13:07 |
| SRabbelier | diones: I replied :D | 13:08 |
| diones | SRabbelier: Also the, problem with pylint seemed to be unrelated with pydev | 13:09 |
| SRabbelier | diones: oh? | 13:09 |
| diones | anyhow I thought it would be usefull to make a litle article to the wiki or a note to the tests article | 13:10 |
| diones | Telling how to solve the problem with the not found app engine modules | 13:11 |
| diones | SRabbelier: The problem was, mostly, that some of app engine modules needed to be installed | 13:12 |
| diones | in order to be found by pydev | 13:12 |
| diones | like yaml | 13:12 |
| diones | similar problems still exist | 13:13 |
| SRabbelier | diones: ah, yes, please do update your GettingStarted with a link to a new topic | 13:13 |
| SRabbelier | diones: something like GettingStartedWithEclipse, or such | 13:13 |
| SRabbelier | diones: and add how you solved the issue | 13:13 |
| SRabbelier | diones: I would very much like to have pylint integration myself | 13:13 |
| diones | ok | 13:13 |
| diones | I'll have to work on that when I'm home | 13:15 |
| SRabbelier | diones: no worries | 13:15 |
| SRabbelier | diones: +1 :) | 13:15 |
| diones | ok :) | 13:15 |
| diones | btw | 13:15 |
| diones | about seed_db.py | 13:15 |
| diones | the diff result | 13:16 |
| diones | can I edit it manually? | 13:16 |
| diones | to remove the 'line removals and such' in my code? | 13:16 |
| decriptor | SRabbelier: roughly, what's the turn around time frame? | 13:17 |
| SRabbelier | diones: mhhh, what would be better is 'undo' the diff, then 'edit manually', apply the diff, and verify that the result is what is desired | 13:18 |
| SRabbelier | decriptor: he's travelling currently, so probably somewhere tonight/tomorrow | 13:18 |
| decriptor | SRabbelier: cool, thanks | 13:19 |
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| ajuonline | SRabbelier: the "check box" isnt in there yet? | 13:50 |
| SRabbelier | ajuonline: nope | 13:50 |
| ajuonline | SRabbelier: eta? | 13:50 |
| ajuonline | or just comments for now? | 13:50 |
| SRabbelier | ajuonline: I think madrazr was going to polish that patch some more | 13:50 |
| SRabbelier | ajuonline: I think ETA was yesterday :P | 13:50 |
| * ajuonline pokes madrazr | 13:51 | |
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| ajuonline | madrazr: what man? you said that was gonna happen few days back :P | 13:51 |
| madrazr | ajuonline: just a min, reading logs | 13:51 |
| madrazr | ajuonline: that patch may not get in before 20th I am afraid. I am currently working on Org Home Page maps which is much more critical ATM | 13:51 |
| ajuonline | madrazr: i got a bunch of extra SoC 08 stickers. let me know any of you guys need it, ever :P | 13:52 |
| madrazr | ajuonline: sell it :D | 13:52 |
| madrazr | ajuonline: you could have done the same in FOSS.in 2008 also :D | 13:52 |
| * madrazr runs | 13:52 | |
| ajuonline | madrazr: no. i got some today. | 13:52 |
| * ajuonline kicks madrazr | 13:53 | |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: Lennie said Org Home Page Maps are more important ATM, so I am not sure if I edit proposal will get in now | 13:53 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: more over do you think it is required at all now? | 13:53 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: most of the rating and ranking by Org is over right? | 13:53 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: it is | 13:54 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: no worries | 13:54 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: focus on org home page | 13:54 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: Oh Ok | 13:54 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: thanks | 13:54 |
| ajuonline | thats perfectly fine madrazr :D | 13:54 |
| ajuonline | dont you have exams nowadays? | 13:54 |
| madrazr | ajuonline: no :) | 13:54 |
| madrazr | ajuonline: I am not even attending classes nowadays :D | 13:55 |
| ajuonline | madrazr: what!! ok do my homework:D | 13:55 |
| ajuonline | kthxbaiii! | 13:55 |
| madrazr | ajuonline: heh of course yeah, if it is Melange work :D | 13:55 |
| ajuonline | :P | 13:56 |
| madrazr | ajuonline: you seem to have lot of contacts. Please help to get at least one from Melange team to FOSS.in | 13:57 |
| madrazr | please? | 13:57 |
| madrazr | ajuonline: if you do this to me, I will do your home work. How is the deal? | 13:58 |
| madrazr | ajuonline: I want to meet SRabbelier. I want to ask him(face-to-face), what on earth has given him so much patience :P | 13:58 |
| MatthewWilkes | hehe | 13:58 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: lots and lots of practice :P | 13:59 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: also, my gf helps me :P | 13:59 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: ha ha LoL! | 13:59 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: she reminds me not to kill right away :P | 13:59 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: :D | 13:59 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: how many years of practice? :P | 14:00 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: about two I'd say :P | 14:00 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: heh OK :) | 14:00 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: I am about to conclude now, "get a gf if you want to practice patience" :D | 14:01 |
| * madrazr runs | 14:01 | |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: yes, it does help :p | 14:01 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: especially if she's at all like mine ;) | 14:01 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: HA HA :D | 14:01 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: he he :) | 14:02 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: can you explain ccTLD? | 14:07 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: .co.uk for UK | 14:07 |
| madrazr | .us for US | 14:07 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: aaaah, right | 14:07 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: can't we just store a mapping? | 14:07 |
| MatthewWilkes | madrazr: uk. for uk, co is a subdomain | 14:07 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: from country to ccTLD? | 14:07 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: yeah that seems to be a good idea now | 14:07 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: shall we go ahead with it? | 14:07 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: if you can find one such mapping and apply it sanely to Melange, go wild | 14:08 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: heh Ok | 14:08 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: let me search for such mappings | 14:08 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: there is a small issue as well, GMaps APIs slightly diverge from ISO recommended ccTLDs | 14:08 |
| madrazr | so we need to take care of that | 14:09 |
| madrazr | for example, ISO says it is gb for Great Britain == UK | 14:09 |
| madrazr | GMap uses .co.uk | 14:09 |
| MatthewWilkes | madrazr: ISO define country codes, ccTLD are different. | 14:09 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: just store the one GMaps API uses then | 14:09 |
| madrazr | MatthewWilkes: Oh is it? | 14:09 |
| madrazr | MatthewWilkes: then there will be a separate mapping for ccTLD? | 14:10 |
| anothy_x | i think uk is the only non-matching one. | 14:10 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: yeah Ok sure | 14:10 |
| MatthewWilkes | madrazr: gb. doesn't include Northern IReland, for example. Also .su is still in use as a ccTLD | 14:10 |
| anothy_x | GB is the ISO code for "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". | 14:10 |
| anothy_x | so "gb", in conventional usage, might not, but the ISO code "gb" does. | 14:11 |
| madrazr | MatthewWilkes: anothy_x: Oh Ok | 14:11 |
| anothy_x | and yes, that's a silly choice for a country code on the UK's part. | 14:11 |
| * SRabbelier honestly doesn't care about .co.uk vs .gb vs .uk | 14:11 | |
| SRabbelier | as long as maps works :P | 14:11 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: ha ha :D | 14:11 |
| madrazr | MatthewWilkes: anothy_x: thanks for the info | 14:12 |
| madrazr | Will search for ccTLD mappings then | 14:12 |
| MatthewWilkes | anothy_x: Fair enough, the reason was that one of the initial DNS schemes was based in the UK so was sensitive to our politics | 14:12 |
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| ajuonline | madrazr: you can ask then directly as well :P | 14:48 |
| ajuonline | SRabbelier: what you doing dec 1-5th :D | 14:48 |
| madrazr | ajuonline: you need to confirm that with FOSS.in organizers I think | 14:48 |
| SRabbelier | ajuonline: probably celebrating "Sinterklaas" | 14:48 |
| ajuonline | SRabbelier: do that in India | 14:49 |
| ajuonline | :D | 14:49 |
| SRabbelier | ajuonline: lol, for FOSS.in? | 14:49 |
| ajuonline | SRabbelier: yeah;) | 14:49 |
| SRabbelier | ajuonline: I'm more a fan of brining madrazr to .eu actually :P | 14:49 |
| ajuonline | SRabbelier: can I come along ;)? | 14:49 |
| madrazr | ajuonline: no no :D | 14:49 |
| SRabbelier | ajuonline: are you a melange contributor yet? :P | 14:50 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: thanks :) | 14:50 |
| madrazr | but you must come here at least once :) | 14:50 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: :D | 14:50 |
| ajuonline | SRabbelier: my loyalties lie with sahana :P | 14:50 |
| SRabbelier | ajuonline: pfffrt, then ask Sahana to fly you over :P | 14:50 |
| ajuonline | yeah right :P | 14:50 |
| madrazr | ajuonline: TBH your loyalties lie with Social Networking site, AFAIK | 14:51 |
| madrazr | s/site/sites/ | 14:51 |
| ajuonline | madrazr: nah, :P | 14:51 |
| madrazr | ajuonline: don't lie :) | 14:51 |
| ajuonline | i only twitter when I am out travelling - bored. | 14:52 |
| ajuonline | :P | 14:52 |
| ajuonline | so much that people start complaining | 14:52 |
| madrazr | ajuonline: heh :) | 14:52 |
| * MatthewWilkes had a friend try and convince him to go to india once | 14:53 | |
| MatthewWilkes | The plan of "Go to goa, hire some motorbikes, get a load of hash, and drive east" sounded like one of the silliest ideas I'd ever heard | 14:53 |
| ajuonline | lol | 14:54 |
| MatthewWilkes | Especially to a group of people who can't drive, let alone ride a bike | 14:54 |
| Erant | hash, or hasj? | 14:54 |
| madrazr | MatthewWilkes: HA HA | 14:54 |
| madrazr | :D | 14:54 |
| * Erant gives MattthewWilkes some sha1sum | 14:54 | |
| MatthewWilkes | ah, lol | 14:54 |
| MatthewWilkes | As I'm still alive, clearly I didn't go | 14:55 |
| Erant | ;) | 14:55 |
| Erant | SRabbelier is occupied in December. He'll be preparing his paper for 26C3 | 14:55 |
| madrazr | MatthewWilkes: he he :P | 14:55 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: huh, what, where? :P | 14:55 |
| Erant | SRabbelier: I'm going to see if I can drag some people to Berlin this time around ;) | 14:56 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: aaah, I see :P | 14:56 |
| anothy_x | actually, minus the hash, that sounds like an awesome trip. what's the motorbike company that sponsors the annual cross-india rally? | 14:56 |
| Erant | I tried hauling Bas, but he said he'd only go if I explained everything to him. | 14:56 |
| ajuonline | SRabbelier: i'll probably use Melange for Sahana Summer of Code or something, does that count ? | 14:56 |
| anothy_x | royal infeld? something like that. | 14:56 |
| MatthewWilkes | Erant: Good call. I keep meaning to go | 14:56 |
| ajuonline | ;) | 14:56 |
| Erant | MatthewWilkes: It is awesome. The CTF event is GREAT fun. | 14:57 |
| MatthewWilkes | Erant: One of my friends from the Plone community is pretty active in Berlin CCC | 14:57 |
| MatthewWilkes | In fact, he was the one that introduced 26C3 nomenclature | 14:57 |
| Erant | Heh, sweet. | 14:57 |
| Erant | Yeah, it's something you should deffo go to if you get the chance. I've been the last two years. Didn't disappoint. We actually won the CTF this year. | 14:58 |
| Erant | Don't expect sleep though | 14:59 |
| MatthewWilkes | you don't need sleep in berlin | 14:59 |
| Erant | You'll either spend entire nights hacking or entire nights drinking at c-base. | 14:59 |
| Erant | Might I recommend a dschunk if you ever get there ;) | 14:59 |
| MatthewWilkes | a dschunk? | 15:00 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: shall I add the mapping of ccTLD to app/soc/models/countries.py | 15:10 |
| madrazr | ? | 15:10 |
| madrazr | as another dictionary | 15:10 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: yup, that'd be good | 15:11 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: Ok | 15:11 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: what's up with the 26 btw? | 15:12 |
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| anothy_x | i've just read the rank bug reports (546, 578) and would like to confirm my understanding. | 15:32 |
| anothy_x | ranking an applicaiton #1 gives it the score of the current #1 application, +1, correct? | 15:32 |
| SRabbelier | anothy_x: right | 15:33 |
| anothy_x | if that's the case, then to get a series of scattered applications to be 1-5, i could take the one i'd like to be #5 and assign it to #1, then the one i'd like to be #4 and assign it to #1, and so on? | 15:33 |
| SRabbelier | anothy_x: yup, that'd work perfectly | 15:34 |
| SRabbelier | oh, wait | 15:34 |
| SRabbelier | mhh | 15:34 |
| * SRabbelier goes check something | 15:34 | |
| SRabbelier | anothy_x: I'm afraid that code hasn't been pushed yet :( | 15:38 |
| SRabbelier | anothy_x: so atm it gets the same score, rather than one above | 15:39 |
| anothy_x | so the most efficient way to produce an arbitrary 1-5 is probably mark them all #1, then up-rate #2 by 1, #3, by 2, and so on? | 15:41 |
| anothy_x | (in the general case; obviously specific scores can yield better results) | 15:41 |
| SRabbelier | anothy_x: right, for now | 15:50 |
| SRabbelier | anothy_x: I'm preparing for a new release though | 15:50 |
| anothy_x | ooo, than i'll stop distracting you! :-) | 15:51 |
| anothy_x | thanks for the info. | 15:51 |
| SRabbelier | anothy_x: no worries | 15:52 |
| SRabbelier | anothy_x: ok, release cut, and uploaded, just not set | 16:00 |
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| bitner | how exactly does the admin option to rank work? we did much of our evaluation outside of melange and I just put our top candidates rankings in melange and I have no idea what the resulting rankings came from | 16:37 |
| bitner | I assumed by putting in 1..n I would get 1..n as my ranks in the listing | 16:37 |
| anothy_x | i just asked this. let my see if i can recount and summarize: | 16:40 |
| anothy_x | right now, setting the rank sets the score of that application to be equal to the score of what's currently in that rank. | 16:41 |
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| anothy_x | (there's a pending change to make it "current score +1", which will be closer to the desired effect). | 16:41 |
| anothy_x | but it's just setting the score. | 16:41 |
| bitner | weird | 16:41 |
| bitner | with a name "rank" shouldn't it just be I set 1, it is first | 16:42 |
| anothy_x | well, with the pending change, it will be, sorta, in the common case. | 16:42 |
| bitner | hrmm, not in our case | 16:42 |
| anothy_x | it certainly isn't what most people (myself included) expect... | 16:43 |
| bitner | I guess I need to "pad" all the scores to get what I need | 16:43 |
| bitner | I want the number I put in the box to be the number that shows up in the rank column :S | 16:43 |
| anothy_x | yeah, at least at current. | 16:43 |
| anothy_x | the pending change will help a lot. then, if you want to specify an arbitrary 1-5, for example, you can mark the one you want to be #5 as #1, then the one you want to be #4 as #1, and so on. | 16:44 |
| anothy_x | still not exactly intuitive, but at least that way it's functional and logically consistent. | 16:44 |
| bitner | I'm lost | 16:44 |
| bitner | think I'll just go with padding scores | 16:44 |
| anothy_x | most people (myself included) see to prefer it being just an override. | 16:45 |
| bitner | at least then I know what's going on | 16:45 |
| bitner | oh man, exceedingly weird -- it changed the actual score on me??? | 16:45 |
| bitner | if it's going to do weird things like that, I would rather it not even be there | 16:46 |
| bitner | oh well | 16:46 |
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| madrazr | durin42: around? | 17:12 |
| durin42 | sorta | 17:25 |
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| madrazr | durin42: is it possible to directly convert mqs to svn diffs? | 17:34 |
| madrazr | :P | 17:34 |
| durin42 | not really | 17:34 |
| madrazr | durin42: Oh Ok | 17:34 |
| durin42 | with hgsubversion tip you should be able to | 17:34 |
| madrazr | durin42: yeah I am on tip | 17:35 |
| durin42 | using some combination of hg diff --svn and -c <change id> | 17:35 |
| madrazr | durin42: awesome! | 17:35 |
| madrazr | durin42: thanks | 17:35 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: this made my life much more easy :P | 17:35 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: what has? | 17:36 |
| madrazr | Mercurial Queues | 17:36 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: ^ | 17:36 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: ah, yes :) | 17:36 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: git branches ftw :P | 17:36 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: heh, you never give up Git :d | 17:36 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: you cannot beat "git rebase" and "git add -p" | 17:36 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: or "git stash" | 17:37 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: Oh Ok | 17:37 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: :D | 17:37 |
| madrazr | agreed :D | 17:37 |
| * madrazr is wondering if there is hg stash :D | 17:38 | |
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| durin42 | madrazr: look into the attic extension | 17:44 |
| madrazr | durin42: Oh Ok | 17:44 |
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