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| anothy_x | is there either (a) a more flexible view of applications i'm missing or (b) a way to download to CSV or similar? | 02:04 |
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| ajaksu | anothy_x: see http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=387 , http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=531 and http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=517 | 02:42 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/36OY> (at code.google.com) | 02:42 |
| anothy_x | yup, 387 looks like exactly what i'm after, thanks. | 03:04 |
| ajaksu | yw :) | 03:06 |
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| madrazr | SRabbelier: is it worth fixing issue 538? | 06:47 |
| madrazr | if so will take it up for today :P | 06:48 |
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| eMPee584 | hi folks... can someone of you melange admins please find out where my application disappeared to? was editing it till UTC19 but saved before.. | 09:36 |
| SRabbelier | eMPee584: did you see it under "list my proposals" before? | 09:44 |
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| eMPee584 | yes | 09:49 |
| eMPee584 | but one minute past 9 o clock it was gone | 09:50 |
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| SRabbelier | eMPee584: probably marked as inelegible then? | 09:57 |
| SRabbelier | eMPee584: what's your link_id? | 09:59 |
| eMPee584 | empee584 | 10:03 |
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| dreimark | hi | 10:54 |
| dreimark | just a question can "Last Modified" be refreshed on comment change? | 10:55 |
| dreimark | and may be sorted. | 10:56 |
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| madrazr | SRabbelier: Hi | 11:07 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: heya! | 11:08 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: yes, please fix issue 538 if you have the time | 11:08 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: if you fix it before tonight we might even be able to include it in today's release :D | 11:08 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: I still did not understand its use case :( | 11:08 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: people are lazy | 11:08 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: they want to be able to subscribe to a proposal by just commenting on it | 11:08 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: Ouch | 11:09 |
| madrazr | it is just about tackling defaults? | 11:09 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: yes, cos that saves them 5 seconds | 11:09 |
| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: btw, is there any reason we're not using the google "Starred" idiom? | 11:09 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: not really | 11:09 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: true I agree. I had read a google paper where it said 20ms more means 40% reduction in user base :P | 11:09 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: so 5s is huge | 11:09 |
| madrazr | :D | 11:09 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: I guess mostly because Lennard didn't think to :P | 11:09 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: good thing we don't care much about the size of our user base? :P | 11:10 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: Ha Ha :D | 11:10 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: nah, that's not true | 11:10 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: we do care about the people that use Melange | 11:10 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: in fact thats why you have been working like anything from last 6-7 months | 11:10 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: otherwise there was no reason? | 11:10 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: let me give it a shot | 11:11 |
| madrazr | I was actually working with Maps to appear on Org home page now, will postpone that | 11:11 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: heheh, yup, you saw through me :) | 11:12 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: :D | 11:12 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: ok, thanks :) | 11:12 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: you're awesome, did I tell you that? :) | 11:12 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: hehe :) | 11:12 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: btw, you added the "proposal public" checkbox, or was it something else, I forget | 11:12 |
| madrazr | Added 2 things, on the student side I added "Public Visibility" CheckBox | 11:13 |
| madrazr | and mentors side I added allow to edit even after application end date | 11:13 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: I really want to see those 2 things for this year GSoC | 11:13 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: may be for show off probably ;-) | 11:14 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: since most of my friends will not be applying for GSoC next year :D | 11:14 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: *grins* | 11:14 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: :) | 11:15 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: ETA for those patches are today :) | 11:15 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: awesome! | 11:15 |
| * madrazr puts all possible efforts for the third one too | 11:16 | |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: epic win! | 11:16 |
| madrazr | :) | 11:16 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: how are we actually maintaining these subscriptions? | 11:17 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: which model? | 11:17 |
| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: That lennie… | 11:18 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: ReviewFollower | 11:19 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: it's real easy | 11:19 |
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| SRabbelier | madrazr: the scope of ReviewFollower should be the project proposal | 11:19 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: yeah Ok | 11:19 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: the link_id should be the link_id of the student | 11:19 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: Ok | 11:19 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: get on #gsoc | 11:20 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: I'll hail you :P | 11:20 |
| * madrazr is scared :( | 11:20 | |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: I repent for missing out last month again now. Could have done much more work :( | 11:22 |
| madrazr | stupid university :( | 11:22 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: hehe, I share the sentiment :) | 11:22 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: exactly the same here | 11:22 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: ha ha :D | 11:23 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: I am yet to find a person who likes his/her University :P | 11:23 |
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| SRabbelier | madrazr: hahah :D | 11:23 |
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| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: Ah, release is being cut today? When, approx? | 11:32 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: tonight UTC+1 time | 11:32 |
| MatthewWilkes | UTC+1?? | 11:32 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: so it should be, Private Comment == Subscribe to Private Updates and Public Comment == Subscribe to Public Updates or? | 11:32 |
| madrazr | Private Comment == Subscribe to Both updates? | 11:32 |
| MatthewWilkes | You guys are in +2 now, surely? | 11:32 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: ah, yes, true | 11:32 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: surely it doesn't matter much :P | 11:32 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: just subscribe to both on comment | 11:33 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: Ok | 11:33 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: if they want spam, they can get it | 11:33 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: HA HA HA :D | 11:33 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: otoh... | 11:33 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: would it be much extra effort to make it two checkboxes, both ticked by default? | 11:33 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: you mean convert buttons to checkboxes? | 11:34 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: well, no, I mean | 11:34 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: when they make a comment | 11:34 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: there should be two checkboxes in that form | 11:34 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: (together with the two buttons at the top) | 11:34 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: and those checkboxes should control whether they subscribe to updates as they post a comment | 11:35 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: ah Ok | 11:35 |
| madrazr | not that difficult | 11:35 |
| madrazr | adding 2 more HTML elements after all | 11:35 |
| madrazr | :) | 11:35 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: do that then :) | 11:35 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: for eternal glory :P | 11:35 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: sure | 11:35 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: HA HA :P | 11:35 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: :D | 11:35 |
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| madrazr | SRabbelier: is there some CSS property for checkbox? btw where are all form related css properties stored? | 11:37 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: I tried a bit yesterday, but did not get it :( | 11:38 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: have a look at the checkboxes generated by the Django forms and copy that | 11:38 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: they use our css properties | 11:38 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: Ok | 11:38 |
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| MatthewWilkes | hmmm, melange is prejudiced against people on 22 year masters courses - it claims it's somehow "invalid" ;) | 11:55 |
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| madrazr | SRabbelier: My new checkboxes are appearing in POST, but they are not appearing in the form fields? | 12:05 |
| madrazr | any idea what might be wrong? | 12:05 |
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| SRabbelier | madrazr: that's correct, you'll need to put them into the form in _editPOst | 12:06 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: Oh Ok, let me check | 12:07 |
| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: I've just sent a tiny 4-line visuals patch, I was going to send it over the w/e but my lappy was misbehaving | 12:08 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: why _editPost for review? I don't see the control passing there | 12:10 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: oh, maybe it doesn't :) | 12:11 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: I think I must look at reviewPost? | 12:11 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: oh, mhhh, yes | 12:11 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: but, maybe, that's not the right place to do it regardless | 12:11 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: since it doesn't affect the Comment | 12:12 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: it just creates a new entity | 12:12 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: cool! | 12:13 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: obvious fix, will apply for sure :) | 12:13 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: where else you think would be appropriate? | 12:14 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: I must admit I haven't looked at the relevant code, it'd be best to ask Lennie | 12:14 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: Ok | 12:14 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: NP | 12:14 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: awesome | 12:15 |
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| madrazr | SRabbelier: laters | 12:15 |
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| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: :) I love open source :) | 12:20 |
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| * dreimark wonders why public review change does njot update Last Modified on the List of all Student Proposals | 12:42 | |
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| lh | dreimark: have you tried navigating back to the page a few minutes later and seeing if the timestamp has updated? | 12:51 |
| * lh thinks the tables are cached and do not get updated right away | 12:51 | |
| SRabbelier | lh: nope | 12:51 |
| SRabbelier | lh: we don't update changed times when a comment is posted | 12:51 |
| SRabbelier | lh: only when the proposal is actually updated | 12:52 |
| lh | SRabbelier: ok. then what do the time stamps reflect | 12:52 |
| lh | ok. | 12:52 |
| * lh notes this | 12:52 | |
| SRabbelier | lh: should it be? | 12:52 |
| lh | SRabbelier: i think it would be very helpful to mentors doing review to have the timestamp increment any time something is done | 12:53 |
| chunmun | SRabbelier: but I as a student dont got to edit the proposal after deadline anymore ever right? | 12:53 |
| lh | proposal updated, comment made, comment made by student, etc. | 12:53 |
| dreimark | preview has e.g. On 6th April 2009 06:14 ... wrote | 12:53 |
| SRabbelier | chunmun: after tonight's release you can iff the mentor lets you | 12:53 |
| SRabbelier | lh: mhhhh, ok | 12:53 |
| madrazr | chunmun: you can if your mentor allows you, may be from tonight | 12:53 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: heh, you came first again :P | 12:53 |
| chunmun | SRabbelier:ohk.. just like last yr! Nice :) | 12:53 |
| SRabbelier | chunmun: right | 12:54 |
| chunmun | madrazr:hi. You joined melange devs or was that some info on the irc/ml that I missed? | 12:54 |
| madrazr | chunmun: I did not get you? joined Melange-devs? channel you mean? | 12:55 |
| SRabbelier | chunmun: he's submitting patches :) | 12:55 |
| chunmun | hmmm... nice.. :) | 12:55 |
| dreimark | SRabbelier: the last column is pointless currently. It should be exchanged by something which shows the edits of comments | 12:56 |
| chunmun | madrazr: was wondering if you joined the team developing melange :) | 12:56 |
| SRabbelier | dreimark: is it now? | 12:56 |
| madrazr | chunmun: yes, but a contributor not a devel though :P | 12:56 |
| chunmun | madrazr:nice enough.. :) | 12:56 |
| madrazr | chunmun: :) | 12:57 |
| dreimark | SRabbelier: no do I have to add a new comment? | 12:57 |
| chunmun | madrazr: have applied to soc this yr rt? | 12:57 |
| SRabbelier | dreimark: I think it's quite useful | 12:57 |
| SRabbelier | dreimark: as you get notifications when a student makes a comment | 12:57 |
| SRabbelier | dreimark: (or a mentor) | 12:57 |
| SRabbelier | dreimark: this way you can see when a student actually updated their proposal | 12:58 |
| * chunmun thinks he'll deploy melange in his college lan for delta inductions.. | 12:58 | |
| * chunmun delta is his college webteam.. :) | 12:58 | |
| SRabbelier | chunmun: hehe, nice | 12:58 |
| dreimark | SRabbelier: I know but that time is over. And now you want to know if he did responding to your requests. | 12:59 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: user.link_id and mentor.link_id are same if user == mentor? | 12:59 |
| SRabbelier | dreimark: that time will be back tonight ;) | 12:59 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: yes | 12:59 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: Ok | 13:00 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: link_id for all roles is the same as the User object | 13:00 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: Ok | 13:00 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: lennie pointed out a problem actually with keeping defaults, just spoke to him | 13:00 |
| chunmun | SRabbelier: btw the onus of subscribing to updates is still with students only rt? I mean auto-subscribe hasn't been implemented yet or has it? | 13:00 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: oh, is it hard to fix? | 13:01 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: don't think so | 13:01 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: let me try my level best | 13:01 |
| dreimark | SRabbelier: thanks :) | 13:01 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: smooth | 13:01 |
| SRabbelier | chunmun: no it hasn't | 13:01 |
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| * chunmun has started playing around with django recently. Hope to contribute to melange soon! | 13:02 | |
| chunmun | or atleast enough to deploy it on the college lan | 13:02 |
| chunmun | and hack around for our own use :) | 13:03 |
| SRabbelier | chunmun: getting melange running is real easy | 13:03 |
| SRabbelier | chunmun: just follow http://code.google.com/p/soc/wiki/GettingStarted and you're good to go | 13:03 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/2kv-> (at code.google.com) | 13:03 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: brb, break for a while | 13:03 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: ok :) | 13:04 |
| chunmun | SRabbelier: btw was wondering why tinymce? We had tried tinymce first n then went in for fckeditor for our own cms | 13:05 |
| SRabbelier | chunmun: because it's what someone plugged in | 13:05 |
| SRabbelier | chunmun: it was not a design decision | 13:05 |
| chunmun | SRabbelier: so it will be easy enough to replace it with fckeditor? | 13:06 |
| SRabbelier | chunmun: if that's what we decide on using instead, yes | 13:06 |
| SRabbelier | chunmun: but we're contemplating switching to MarkDown | 13:06 |
| SRabbelier | chunmun: or something like that | 13:06 |
| * chunmun goes checks MarkDown | 13:07 | |
| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: Did I imagine somebody saying CSV export was a todo for tonight? I may be going mad… | 13:07 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: 'twas me | 13:08 |
| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: Ah, great. If you've not done it already, emailing… | 13:09 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: emailing...? | 13:09 |
| MatthewWilkes | a patch | 13:09 |
| MatthewWilkes | I expected it to be more than just specifying an ordering, some nice base classes you've got there :) | 13:11 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: I know :D | 13:11 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: I made them ;) | 13:11 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: the problem is not that we need to specify the ordering, but that we need to make sure only those that should have access to this export | 13:12 |
| MatthewWilkes | Well, well done you! :P | 13:12 |
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| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: The way I read it it was part of the list view, doesn't it use the same permissions? | 13:12 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: yes, it does, but list views are restricted, no? | 13:12 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: they don't show all information (notably not any private info) | 13:12 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: so we need to somehow make sure that the list we export does not include private data for those that have no access to those | 13:13 |
| SRabbelier | perhaps a new ACL :) | 13:13 |
| MatthewWilkes | hehe | 13:13 |
| MatthewWilkes | The way it works in zope, you define permissions such as "View", "View private information", etc. and assign them to rôles like "Owner", "Manager", "Member" (The user, program-/org-admins, site users). That way you get nice fine-grained control of each of the getters | 13:15 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: hehe, that's about what we implemented ourselves | 13:17 |
| MatthewWilkes | yeah, except it dereferences functions rather than just a mtrix | 13:17 |
| MatthewWilkes | matrix* | 13:17 |
| chunmun | that sounds something like the permission structure in our cms :) | 13:18 |
| chunmun | pragyanCMS :) | 13:18 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: so do we | 13:18 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: we call a function from the access module | 13:18 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: and pass it the current request and the parsed version of the url | 13:18 |
| MatthewWilkes | təˈmātō / təˈˈmätō ;) | 13:18 |
| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: I mean, you deref functions, Zope has a static list, a bit more at-a-glance. I think both are feature-complete though | 13:19 |
| MatthewWilkes | hmm, wrong way around, ah well | 13:19 |
| * MatthewWilkes gets more tea | 13:20 | |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: hahahha :) | 13:20 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: ps: did you test your 4-liner? | 13:22 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: I mean, I remember something about it dying horribly screaming random curse words if there is a missing field | 13:22 |
| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: Yep, I did | 13:23 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: rock | 13:24 |
| MatthewWilkes | http://trac.teamrubber.com/pm/paste/pasted/32 if you want example output | 13:25 |
| tpb | Title: PasteBin (at trac.teamrubber.com) | 13:25 |
| MatthewWilkes | with silly long proposal that makes it look ugly in plaintext | 13:25 |
| MatthewWilkes | and yes, I do have duplicate proposals in the front-end | 13:25 |
| * MatthewWilkes was a bit trigger-happy | 13:25 | |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: lol, nice :) | 13:26 |
| MatthewWilkes | right, hometime | 13:35 |
| MatthewWilkes | see you guys later | 13:35 |
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| madrazr | SRabbelier: what should I use to get an entity from the keyname? | 13:38 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: logic.getFromKeyname | 13:38 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: Ok | 13:38 |
| SRabbelier | **KeyName | 13:38 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: Ok | 13:38 |
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| diones | SRabbelier: Heya | 13:43 |
| SRabbelier | diones: heya | 13:43 |
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| anothy_x | can non-admin mentors see other mentors who've indicated willingness to mentor a given application? | 14:13 |
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| diones | SRabbelier, have you seen my proposal? | 14:26 |
| SRabbelier | diones: hmmm, what's your real name again? | 14:27 |
| diones | Marcelo Sena | 14:27 |
| SRabbelier | diones: right, I commented on it, no? | 14:28 |
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| harlan | Is it just me or does melange seem to need a 3-way handshake to accept a mentor? | 14:29 |
| SRabbelier | harlan: didn't that question come up earlier? :P | 14:30 |
| SRabbelier | harlan: there's a shortcut | 14:30 |
| SRabbelier | harlan: have the org admin invite the mentor | 14:30 |
| harlan | ie, guy asks to be a mentor, I accept, guy gets a link in a notification that must be followed before he becomes a mentor... | 14:30 |
| harlan | I've done that. I am the org admin | 14:30 |
| SRabbelier | harlan: right, so that way it's a two-way handshake :) | 14:30 |
| SRabbelier | harlan: but we don't want to collect personal information on mentors before they are accepted | 14:31 |
| SRabbelier | harlan: hence the need for an additional step | 14:31 |
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| harlan | They are still showing up as "pending invites" on my dashboard and they are not yet listed as "mentors" in the mentor dashboard | 14:31 |
| harlan | ok, I think I understand. Thanks. | 14:31 |
| harlan | and the reason for the personal info is so they can get the tee shirt right? | 14:31 |
| SRabbelier | harlan: right, the mentors still need to click the link in the invite and complete their profile | 14:31 |
| SRabbelier | harlan: right | 14:31 |
| harlan | and if they do not want a tee shirt, they still have to fill out the rest of the profile? | 14:32 |
| SRabbelier | harlan: hmmm... yes, although I guess they could put "N/D" instead | 14:32 |
| diones | SRabbelier, so I add the timeline as a comment? | 14:32 |
| harlan | N/A? | 14:32 |
| harlan | that would work. | 14:33 |
| harlan | thanks... | 14:33 |
| SRabbelier | diones: yes, that would be good | 14:33 |
| SRabbelier | diones: after tonight's push we can then allow you to update your proposal | 14:33 |
| diones | Ok | 14:34 |
| diones | but it may take a while before I can update my proposal | 14:34 |
| diones | since I have colege tests very soon | 14:35 |
| SRabbelier | diones: ok, can you comment with a timeline before then? | 14:37 |
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| diones | SRabbelier: I can try | 14:39 |
| SRabbelier | diones: ok, thanks | 14:39 |
| diones | np | 14:39 |
| diones | bye | 14:44 |
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| mwilkes|phone | evenin' | 14:46 |
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| dmitrig01 | http://img.skitch.com/20090406-fn24a9r2t8ss98a7f7hcmty67.jpg | 15:24 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/36YO> (at img.skitch.com) | 15:24 |
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| desrt | hi. some quick feedback about the SoC webapp: | 15:26 |
| SRabbelier | dmitrig01: hit f5? | 15:26 |
| desrt | the "Public" checkbox on mentors adding comments is a bit confusing | 15:26 |
| desrt | people are thinking that it means "world can read this" | 15:26 |
| desrt | probably it should be changed to "Comments visible to student" to make it more clear | 15:26 |
| dmitrig01 | SRabbelier: gone | 15:27 |
| dmitrig01 | SRabbelier: what was that about :P | 15:27 |
| SRabbelier | dmitrig01: caching | 15:27 |
| dmitrig01 | stupid caching | 15:27 |
| SRabbelier | dmitrig01: your sidebar got cached, but not properly flushed | 15:27 |
| SRabbelier | dmitrig01: be thankful of the caching | 15:27 |
| SRabbelier | dmitrig01: or would you rather have it be even slower? P | 15:27 |
| dmitrig01 | :D | 15:27 |
| SRabbelier | desrt: ok, please file a http://tinyurl.com/new-issue on that | 15:27 |
| tpb | Title: Project hosting on Google Code (at tinyurl.com) | 15:27 |
| dmitrig01 | SRabbelier: Nice URL! | 15:28 |
| desrt | done | 15:28 |
| SRabbelier | dmitrig01: I know ;) | 15:28 |
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| chx | hi. this is me again. it seems neither AlexUA_ nor i can see the 'score' 'rank' public/private any more | 15:30 |
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| SRabbelier | chx: oh? | 15:30 |
| SRabbelier | wrong url? | 15:30 |
| chx | http://socghop.appspot.com/student_proposal/show/google/gsoc2009/mgccl/t123860469646 here | 15:30 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/36YW> (at socghop.appspot.com) | 15:30 |
| SRabbelier | chx: yup | 15:30 |
| SRabbelier | wrong url | 15:30 |
| SRabbelier | chx: change 'show' to 'review' | 15:30 |
| * chx facepalms | 15:31 | |
| chx | thanks | 15:31 |
| SRabbelier | chx: np, known issue :) | 15:31 |
| AlexUA_ | lol | 15:31 |
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| glaksmono_ | guys | 15:41 |
| glaksmono_ | the comments are public? | 15:41 |
| SRabbelier | glaksmono_: public means visible to student | 15:41 |
| glaksmono_ | ah kk, thanks SRabbelier | 15:42 |
| glaksmono_ | :P | 15:42 |
| SRabbelier | glaksmono_: ok | 15:42 |
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| kblin | huh? | 15:50 |
| kblin | how is the rank of a proposal calculated? | 15:50 |
| SRabbelier | kblin: sum of it's reviews = score | 15:51 |
| SRabbelier | kblin: then sort by score | 15:51 |
| kblin | because I've got a proposals with score 6 and a couple with score 5 all showing up as rank 2 | 15:52 |
| kblin | and no rank1 | 15:52 |
| SRabbelier | kblin: that's not good :) | 15:53 |
| SRabbelier | kblin: poke Lennie | 15:53 |
| kblin | as in filing a bug? lennie seems to be out of poking range | 15:53 |
| SRabbelier | kblin: I poked him | 15:54 |
| SRabbelier | kblin: probably the ranker is out of date | 15:55 |
| SRabbelier | kblin: no worry, it doen'st influence the true rank | 15:55 |
| SRabbelier | kblin: only the position of the entity in the view | 15:56 |
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| kblin | ok | 15:57 |
| SRabbelier | kblin: we'll look into fixing the ranker in the meanwhile :) | 15:58 |
| kane77 | hi, I have one minor improvement tip.. either the ordering of the comments should be reversed (newest message on top - not quite intuitive) or the comment field should be moved below comments.. what do you think? | 15:58 |
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| SRabbelier | kane77: mhhh, makes sense | 16:07 |
| kane77 | SRabbelier, I just noticed I want to reply to comment and somehow I dont see the text I am replying to :) | 16:08 |
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| madrazr | Lennie: Welcome! | 16:18 |
| kblin | I'm not even sure reverse chronological order is counterintuitive | 16:19 |
| kblin | after all blogs work that way as well | 16:19 |
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| ajaksu | kblin: not the comments :) | 16:20 |
| kblin | ajaksu: that's because they're usually 50+% spam or other crap, and noone cares to read them anyway ;) | 16:22 |
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| harlan | I notice I put in a "rank" for a project and "submit", but the rank is not stored. ??? I am a project admin. | 17:21 |
| harlan | Do I need to have any review text? | 17:21 |
| harlan | Does the project need to have a nonzero score? | 17:22 |
| lh | harlan: that may be ebkac. try again - same issue? | 17:29 |
| * harlan tries again | 17:30 | |
| harlan | nope. I enter '7' for Rank, hit Submit and when the page reloads the Rank field is still empty. | 17:31 |
| MatthewWilkes | Is the "Rank:" label is red or black? | 17:32 |
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| MatthewWilkes | If it's red, it's a validation error, if it's black it's not having an effect | 17:32 |
| lh | harlan: does the score change or not? you know rank just means it moves it that rank in your application list regardless of score, right? | 17:33 |
| lh | if you are expecting alternate behavior, what are you expecting? | 17:33 |
| harlan | Yes, and right now we have no assigned scores. I just want to get things ranked for you. | 17:33 |
| harlan | the rank label is black | 17:33 |
| harlan | I have 8 proposals, so I was going to rank them from 1-8 (assuming they all become "eligible" and right now one is not yet eligible, so I would leave its Rank as empty/0) | 17:36 |
| lh | harlan: hrm. this requires someone who is better at this than i am. melange devs should be around tomorrow morning or late tonight california time - they are in .nl and .pl | 17:36 |
| harlan | I was gonna assign the top 2 projects each as 7, the next 2 projects each as 5, etc. | 17:36 |
| harlan | OK, thanks. | 17:36 |
| harlan | My goal is to eventually get even better ranking, but I wanted to at least get started. | 17:37 |
| harlan | I'll try by assigning a score to the ones that have useful content. | 17:37 |
| MatthewWilkes | Roite, bedtime, night all! | 17:37 |
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| harlan | Apparently one must first score+comment. | 17:39 |
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| madrazr | solydzajs: ah great! | 17:40 |
| solydzajs | ok what's up ?;-) | 17:40 |
| solydzajs | how can I help ? | 17:40 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: I was working on org home page, issue 491 http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=491 | 17:40 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/36_m> (at code.google.com) | 17:41 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: right now the org home page's layout looks like this | 17:41 |
| harlan | but my attempts to set a rank do not work and then the score is zero'd. | 17:41 |
| madrazr | Org Home Doc | 17:41 |
| madrazr | Feeds | 17:41 |
| madrazr | Selected Projects | 17:41 |
| madrazr | Map | 17:41 |
| madrazr | all one below the other and it looks very odd since feeds is 2nd | 17:41 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: what do you think will be a good layout? | 17:41 |
| solydzajs | madrazr: good layout was in previous web app | 17:42 |
| solydzajs | madrazr: http://code.google.com/soc/2008/sfc/about.html | 17:42 |
| tpb | Title: Google Code - Summer of Code - Organization Information (at code.google.com) | 17:42 |
| solydzajs | madrazr: two columns in one all the accepted projects and the map in second column | 17:43 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: yeah Ok | 17:43 |
| madrazr | solydzajs: that looks neat | 17:43 |
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| salty-horse | is Pawel Solyga around? | 18:06 |
| kblin | you missed him by a couple of minutes | 18:08 |
| kblin | he left 10 minutes ago | 18:08 |
| salty-horse | oh, that was solydzajs ? :) | 18:08 |
| kblin | yup | 18:09 |
| salty-horse | anyway, this seems simple to fix: http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=438 | 18:09 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/36aC> (at code.google.com) | 18:09 |
| salty-horse | I wondered if I can just tell him how to fix it, instead of checking out the code, installing app engine, and so forth :) | 18:09 |
| salty-horse | and since it has been merged into a different, more general bug, I'm not sure where is best to comment | 18:10 |
| dwendt | SRabbelier: I looked into Markdown; there's a python version with no dependancies, BSD licensed, an easy way to add extensions, oh and did I mention you already have it in your source tree? | 18:11 |
| SRabbelier | dwendt: LOL! | 18:12 |
| SRabbelier | dwendt: are you serious? | 18:12 |
| dwendt | yeah it's already in django as django.contrib.markup | 18:12 |
| dwendt | according to http://www.freewisdom.org/projects/python-markdown/Django | 18:12 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/36aK> (at www.freewisdom.org) | 18:12 |
| dwendt | well almost | 18:13 |
| SRabbelier | dwendt: whow, that's totally awesome | 18:13 |
| SRabbelier | dwendt: we can hack on that template tag easily | 18:13 |
| SRabbelier | dwendt: and have it do what we want! | 18:13 |
| dwendt | yeah | 18:14 |
| dwendt | also markdown for python also supports markup extensions very easily | 18:14 |
| SRabbelier | dwendt: nice, nice | 18:14 |
| * kblin sighs | 18:14 | |
| salty-horse | dwendt, markdown goes well with the wmd editor: http://github.com/derobins/wmd/tree/master | 18:14 |
| tpb | Title: derobins's wmd at master - GitHub (at github.com) | 18:14 |
| dwendt | mmm | 18:15 |
| * salty-horse jumps in a conversation he knows nothing about | 18:15 | |
| salty-horse | it's used by stackoverflow.com | 18:15 |
| dwendt | nice | 18:16 |
| dwendt | so; we could hack together a working wiki engine and integrate it into melange fairly easy using markdown, wmd... next up how to calculate deltas | 18:18 |
| Lennie | salty-horse, just drop a line on the issue you find most suited :) | 18:18 |
| salty-horse | ok, Lennie :) | 18:19 |
| Lennie | and with that one liner I'm off :) | 18:19 |
| Lennie | nn | 18:19 |
| salty-horse | gnight | 18:19 |
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| dwendt | hrm, the python standard library has a diffing engine too; goodie | 18:25 |
| SRabbelier | dwendt: nice, nice :) | 18:25 |
| dwendt | what's next | 18:25 |
| salty-horse | dwendt, it's sort of nice | 18:25 |
| dwendt | salty-horse: caveats | 18:25 |
| dwendt | *caveats? | 18:25 |
| salty-horse | (I meant the diff engine) | 18:25 |
| dwendt | oh. | 18:25 |
| * dwendt quickly checks if appengine includes difflib | 18:26 | |
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| dwendt | yeah it has it | 18:26 |
| salty-horse | I must mention that the URL in appspot confuses people (soc+ghop, when most people only know about gsoc) | 18:28 |
| SRabbelier | salty-horse: heh, not our choice :) | 18:28 |
| SRabbelier | salty-horse: send an email to cdibina, he picked the name :P | 18:28 |
| salty-horse | dibona, or dibina? | 18:28 |
| SRabbelier | cdibona | 18:28 |
| SRabbelier | salty-horse: (believe me, it's better than some of the alternatives) | 18:29 |
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| salty_horse | that's appropriate, since it's his former co-host that was confused (on twit.tv's floss weekly) :) | 18:29 |
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| MatthewWilkes | meh, sleep doesn't work | 18:33 |
| salty-horse | try including unistd.h | 18:35 |
| MatthewWilkes | salty-horse: :D | 18:37 |
| salty-horse | I'm sorry. that was lame | 18:37 |
| MatthewWilkes | Nah, 'twas good | 18:38 |
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| SRabbelier | salty-horse: pretty funny indeed :P | 18:54 |
| SRabbelier | I'm going to give it a go myself | 18:54 |
| salty-horse | good luck | 18:54 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: your patches are committed | 18:54 |
| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: Awesome :) Thanks mate | 18:54 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: nay, thank you! :) | 18:54 |
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| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: What would happen if the list_field_order contained only non-sensitive info? Would org's listing take precedence for orgs, but allow students partial export? | 18:59 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: it would take presedence since I overwrite it with no mercy :P | 18:59 |
| MatthewWilkes | :) | 19:00 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: I say, give it a spin | 19:00 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: and submit a third patch! :D | 19:00 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: unless of course sleep is too tempting | 19:01 |
| MatthewWilkes | I need to link against salty-horse's libraries, I think | 19:01 |
| MatthewWilkes | My implementation is suboptimal | 19:01 |
| salty-horse | ok, now you're making it even worse | 19:01 |
| SRabbelier | lololl :P | 19:02 |
| MatthewWilkes | Hmmm, students can see assigned mentors? | 19:05 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: they can now! | 19:05 |
| MatthewWilkes | Won't that cause a bad? | 19:05 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: oh, wait | 19:05 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: where can they? | 19:05 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: 'list my student proposals'? | 19:05 |
| MatthewWilkes | list_self for proposals | 19:05 |
| MatthewWilkes | yup | 19:05 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: one brownie point for you | 19:06 |
| MatthewWilkes | Careful *knows what kind of brownies .nl is famous for* | 19:07 |
| salty-horse | # | 19:07 |
| MatthewWilkes | Yup, pound brownies indeed. | 19:07 |
| * salty-horse /j #brownies | 19:07 | |
| Erant | omnomnom dutch brownies | 19:07 |
| salty-horse | empty! | 19:07 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: heheheh, lol :D | 19:10 |
| SRabbelier | salty-horse: lol @ #brownies :P | 19:10 |
| SRabbelier | salty-horse: it's pronounced 'pound', right? :P | 19:10 |
| salty-horse | In Hebrew it's "small ladder" | 19:10 |
| MatthewWilkes | When we first got them on telephones in the UK it was pronounced "gate" | 19:10 |
| Erant | In dutch it's also 'gate' (hekje) or 'mullet' / 'small mat' (matje) | 19:12 |
| * MatthewWilkes only knows one hebrew phrase, and that's biblical hebrew, and only because it's an album name | 19:12 | |
| SRabbelier | Erant: matje? no way :P | 19:14 |
| Erant | srsly | 19:15 |
| MatthewWilkes | As any fule no, £ is pound. # is hash. Fact. | 19:16 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: Google tells me to hit the 'pound' sign... | 19:16 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: they refer to # | 19:16 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: since there's no £ on my phone :P | 19:16 |
| SRabbelier | (well, there is on my G1, but that's TOTALLY beside the point!! :P) | 19:16 |
| MatthewWilkes | Well, £ is short for Lira, actually, but ah well | 19:16 |
| MatthewWilkes | Libra, even | 19:17 |
| MatthewWilkes | Silly romance languages, dropping letters left right and centre | 19:17 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: heheh :P | 19:17 |
| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: Coded anything for your andy yet? | 19:18 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: no :( | 19:18 |
| MatthewWilkes | Boo! Anyone would think you're busy on some open source stuff… | 19:19 |
| MatthewWilkes | Do you at least have the tricorder app? Best app there is | 19:19 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: lol | 19:19 |
| Erant | SRabbelier is a fake opensource dev. | 19:20 |
| Erant | He doesn't do embedded. | 19:20 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: wait... wait... opensource dev == embedded dev? | 19:20 |
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| summatusmentis | psh | 19:20 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: y no un tell meh? | 19:20 |
| MatthewWilkes | opensource = coding everything you can lay your greasy mitts on | 19:20 |
| MatthewWilkes | Well, is for me anyway | 19:20 |
| Erant | SRabbelier: We kinda figured you'd know :/ | 19:21 |
| Erant | MatthewWilkes: So true. | 19:21 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: lol :D | 19:21 |
| Erant | Oh, thought you ment 'coding ON everything ..." | 19:21 |
| salty-horse | MatthewWilkes, what phrase? | 19:21 |
| MatthewWilkes | salty-horse: Tohu va Bohu | 19:21 |
| salty-horse | hehe. it's from the first sentence in the bible | 19:22 |
| Erant | SRabbelier: My bootloaders workz. :) | 19:22 |
| salty-horse | means chaos | 19:22 |
| MatthewWilkes | Yup | 19:22 |
| salty-horse | and it's "Tohu Va-vohu" | 19:22 |
| MatthewWilkes | It's תֹ֙הוּ֙ וָבֹ֔הוּ if you're going to be picky | 19:22 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: sheesh, you can't spell for cr*p :P | 19:23 |
| * MatthewWilkes thanks wiki | 19:23 | |
| salty-horse | :D | 19:23 |
| Erant | sleep((6 * 3600) + 1800); | 19:24 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: .join() | 19:24 |
| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: o_O | 19:25 |
| Erant | Nuh uh | 19:25 |
| Erant | No icky OO in my C code | 19:25 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: as in | 19:25 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: I'm also going to sleep | 19:25 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: for about as long | 19:25 |
| MatthewWilkes | Yeah, yeah, you say that now you were turned down ;) | 19:26 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: so I might as well wait for him to wake up | 19:26 |
| Erant | Oh, I only just got the dirty reference. :P | 19:26 |
| SRabbelier | Erant: slow :P | 19:26 |
| Erant | :P | 19:26 |
| Erant | Well, all my threads are BLOCKED. so ;) | 19:26 |
| * MatthewWilkes hits his melange instance | 19:26 | |
| MatthewWilkes | export=0, not 2, silly thing | 19:27 |
| Erant | nn | 19:27 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: lol :P | 19:27 |
| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: Did you try it after moving the ordering to organization? | 19:29 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: oops? | 19:29 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: is it broken/ | 19:30 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: ? | 19:30 |
| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: It's forcing export=2 for me, and I've only got 2 proposals in the system | 19:30 |
| MatthewWilkes | Plain SVN co | 19:30 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: but that's because it's the second list | 19:31 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: no? | 19:31 |
| MatthewWilkes | second list? | 19:31 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: first one being 'new' | 19:31 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: I think? | 19:32 |
| MatthewWilkes | Ah, I see | 19:32 |
| MatthewWilkes | Mine are new | 19:32 |
| MatthewWilkes | export=2 | 19:32 |
| MatthewWilkes | Under review, export=0 | 19:32 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: correct :) | 19:33 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: so it's working as expected, no? | 19:33 |
| MatthewWilkes | No | 19:33 |
| MatthewWilkes | The lists are New, Under Review | 19:33 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: the export=# determines which list view you want to export | 19:33 |
| MatthewWilkes | They should be 0, 1 | 19:33 |
| MatthewWilkes | They are 2, 0 | 19:33 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: do you at least get the right data for the right list? | 19:33 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: if you click 'export' for a list, do you get the data in that list? | 19:33 |
| MatthewWilkes | if I put 0 or 1 in manually, yes, it looks that way | 19:33 |
| MatthewWilkes | Let me comment on one | 19:34 |
| MatthewWilkes | No | 19:34 |
| * lh hugs MatthewWilkes | 19:34 | |
| lh | thanks matthew, nice to see folks pitching in | 19:34 |
| lh | :) | 19:34 |
| MatthewWilkes | On New I get the page reload in a new window | 19:34 |
| * SRabbelier goes to test | 19:34 | |
| MatthewWilkes | lh: I was one of the ones who wanted to fiddle last year, wrote a greasemonkey script to change things around. How can I resist now I can actually make changes? | 19:35 |
| lh | MatthewWilkes: woot. :) | 19:35 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: ah, I know the problem | 19:36 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: the index should be the same as the order in which they appear on the page | 19:36 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: otherwise the wrong link is generated | 19:36 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: I'm going to tip over now though | 19:36 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: to fix it, change the idx params | 19:37 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: in new_list = lists.getListContent(request, new_params, filter, idx=2, need_content=True) | 19:37 |
| MatthewWilkes | ok | 19:37 |
| MatthewWilkes | I'll submit a new patch, including student exports | 19:37 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: hmmm... ok so it might not work either way | 19:37 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: because of empty lists | 19:37 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: feh | 19:37 |
| MatthewWilkes | Empty lists export ok | 19:37 |
| * SRabbelier checks | 19:37 | |
| MatthewWilkes | I got a good export on export=1 when all proposals were new | 19:38 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: nvm... it's not that | 19:38 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: it should work fine, damnit | 19:38 |
| dwendt | mmback, my brother is constantly recalibrating the lag on GH4 because he thinks it's putting off his drumming skills | 19:38 |
| SRabbelier | dwendt: lmao | 19:39 |
| dwendt | nvm he got it working | 19:39 |
| dwendt | be back soon | 19:39 |
| SRabbelier | dwendt: lol, ok :) | 19:40 |
| SRabbelier | dwendt: hf | 19:40 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: aaah, I found it | 19:41 |
| SRabbelier | yay | 19:41 |
| SRabbelier | I'm a reatard | 19:42 |
| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: ? Was it not the idx? That looks hopeful to me | 19:42 |
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| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: it is, but the fix is easy | 19:42 |
| MatthewWilkes | counter? 2 of the lists are conditional | 19:43 |
| SRabbelier | YES! | 19:45 |
| SRabbelier | I fixed it! :D:D | 19:45 |
| SRabbelier | w0000ht | 19:45 |
| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: hehe | 19:45 |
| SRabbelier | finally | 19:45 |
| SRabbelier | SLEEP | 19:45 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: committing now | 19:46 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: please test, so I may rest :D | 19:46 |
| MatthewWilkes | Goodnight :) | 19:46 |
| salty-horse | good night | 19:47 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: isit workin? | 19:47 |
| salty-horse | the sleep? | 19:47 |
| SRabbelier | salty-horse: lol, no, the export :P | 19:47 |
| MatthewWilkes | Yup | 19:48 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: W0000h | 19:48 |
| SRabbelier | SLEEP! | 19:49 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: you rock man | 19:49 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: remind me to remind lh to remind cat to send you swag :P | 19:49 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: sometime :P | 19:49 |
| MatthewWilkes | lol | 19:49 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: we need Melange shirts | 19:49 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: as soon as we have those | 19:49 |
| * MatthewWilkes has had his fair share of swag, but thanks :) | 19:49 | |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: I say, all those who are in AUTHORS need one :D | 19:49 |
| MatthewWilkes | hehe | 19:50 |
| SRabbelier | then again, who am I, :P | 19:50 |
| MatthewWilkes | If that doesn't get patches, what will? | 19:50 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: indeed! | 19:51 |
| SRabbelier | "I contributed to Melange and all I got was this lousy t-shirt"? | 19:51 |
| SRabbelier | or not witty enough? | 19:51 |
| MatthewWilkes | "Open Source Development - the weirding way" | 19:51 |
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| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: hehehe | 19:54 |
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| MatthewWilkes | Good idea, that man | 20:24 |
| MatthewWilkes | I'm going to try sleeping again, night all (x2) | 20:25 |
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