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| scorche | so, an org admin uses the same link_id for the org application as he mistakenly did for his own profile...will this cause issues? | 04:57 |
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| mithro | hey lh - you still about? | 05:44 |
| * mithro didn't think so, but thought he would ask anyway | 05:51 | |
| mithro | SRabbelier: you about? | 05:51 |
| SRabbelier | mithro: pong | 06:07 |
| SRabbelier | scorche: yes, that would indeed be an issue | 06:07 |
| SRabbelier | scorche: file a new org app with the proper link_id | 06:07 |
| mithro | SRabbelier: pmsg | 06:08 |
| scorche | SRabbelier: should i wait for Pawel to come around and delete the user or the user and the org app? | 06:08 |
| SRabbelier | scorche: you could do that as well, but I don't know if he'll be around in time | 06:08 |
| scorche | SRabbelier: i think i will wait for Pawel then, and if he doesnt show by 30-minutes-till, another app will be submitted then | 06:11 |
| scorche | thanks | 06:11 |
| scorche | (to be clearer, it is the admin's id that is the issue rather than the org's) | 06:14 |
| _raz_ | exactly the same problem as for me - interesting that I'm not the only one doing that mistake | 06:16 |
| SRabbelier | scorche: aah, so the link id of the admin is that of the org, instead of something that indentifies the user? | 06:16 |
| scorche | yes...he mistakenly thought it was for the org itself | 06:16 |
| SRabbelier | And that while there was this huge notice telling you what to pick as link_id... | 06:16 |
| * scorche shrugs | 06:17 | |
| SRabbelier | scorche: I'm really amazed by how badly people do not read help text | 06:17 |
| _raz_ | SRabbelier: nope | 06:17 |
| SRabbelier | _raz_: nope? | 06:17 |
| _raz_ | SRabbelier: when one clicks on apply as org (being logged in on google) and gets some 'sign in' with something named link_id, it's slightly confusing | 06:18 |
| _raz_ | especially as one would expect to create the org params here | 06:18 |
| SRabbelier | _raz_: I see, so yyou're saying the "sign up as org" link shoulnd't show unless you created your Site Profile? | 06:18 |
| SRabbelier | (that's how it was before) | 06:18 |
| scorche | SRabbelier: it was the differentiation between user and org that seems to be tripping people up for some odd reason.. | 06:19 |
| SRabbelier | scorche: yes, I can imagine them getting the org link_id wrong, as that wasn't properly documented | 06:19 |
| _raz_ | Either that or rename the link_id to something that explains what it means in which context | 06:19 |
| SRabbelier | but I find it hard to udnerstand the other way around | 06:19 |
| SRabbelier | _raz_: Yeah, we will do that :) | 06:19 |
| SRabbelier | _raz_: see issue... 247 | 06:20 |
| _raz_ | SRabbelier: the main problem (in my opinion) is the plain "sign in" note, if you haven't created an apphost acccount yet - it would be fully sufficient to write something like "sign in as _user_ first" or so | 06:25 |
| SRabbelier | _raz_: ok... that can be fixed easily | 06:26 |
| SRabbelier | _raz_: dude | 06:29 |
| _raz_ | dude? | 06:30 |
| SRabbelier | _raz_: it says: 'Please create <a href="/user/create_profile">User Profile</a> in order to view this page.' | 06:30 |
| SRabbelier | _raz_: how more obvious can it be that it's about a User Profile, not an Org profile? | 06:30 |
| _raz_ | SRabbelier: yep, and when I asked in #gsoc about it yesterday, people explained how to use link_id and that stuff for the org application - so it is a problem source, if you are absolutely new to that app and the org link_id is titled the same way as a user link_id | 06:32 |
| SRabbelier | _raz_: yes, but the problem is that the user filled in the org link_id instead of their own | 06:33 |
| _raz_ | right | 06:33 |
| SRabbelier | _raz_: so either they did not read, or they did not understand what the text said | 06:33 |
| _raz_ | right - in my case I explicitly asked for that and people got it wrong, too | 06:34 |
| _raz_ | so? | 06:34 |
| SRabbelier | _raz_: either way, I don't see a way to improve the situation so that users don't use the org app's link_id for their own | 06:34 |
| SRabbelier | _raz_: explicitly asked for what? | 06:34 |
| _raz_ | what to use there as link_id | 06:35 |
| * SRabbelier mumbles something about Reading Documentation | 06:44 | |
| _raz_ | :) | 06:48 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: ping | 07:05 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: is it ok with you if I write down some assumptions about the release script in the Release Document from which you can then determine it's requirements for the Melange release process? | 07:06 |
| danderson | SRabbelier: not sure what you mean, but write and I'll review | 07:07 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: like this: "The name of the branch should be in the format "$major.$minor.$year$month$day", the release script will enforce this format and require you only to specify the correct major and minor version." | 07:08 |
| danderson | SRabbelier: it's actuallt with '-' as separators | 07:10 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: correct, my bad | 07:10 |
| danderson | and the version format also support a 'pX' suffix | 07:10 |
| danderson | for a patch level | 07:10 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: nevertheless :P | 07:10 |
| danderson | but, that's fine, yes | 07:10 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: awesome | 07:10 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: (will fix the format decsription) | 07:10 |
| WinterMute | SRabbelier, nobody reads documentation until something goes wrong :p | 07:11 |
| _raz_ | even then customers usually call the support hotline and blame them *ducks and covers* | 07:12 |
| SRabbelier | WinterMute: Maybe those that do not bother to read the documentation should not be part of GSoC :) | 07:12 |
| danderson | SRabbelier: I've always said that | 07:12 |
| WinterMute | huhu | 07:12 |
| SRabbelier | WinterMute: If you can't take the effort to do at least that, I don't want to waste my time on helping you | 07:12 |
| * WinterMute deletes his backup admin :p | 07:12 | |
| SRabbelier | danderson: :) | 07:12 |
| danderson | I'm of the extreme opinion that if you post a FAQ to the mailing list, you should be immediately barred from SoC for 1 year | 07:13 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: *grins* | 07:13 |
| danderson | no warning, no second chances | 07:13 |
| danderson | you've annoyed 5000 people, that's what you get | 07:13 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: Lol :D | 07:13 |
| WinterMute | rofl | 07:13 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: tempting, but a tad too harsh :P | 07:13 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: the point is to get new students into Open Source | 07:13 |
| WinterMute | be funny though | 07:13 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: not to send them running for the hill :D | 07:14 |
| SRabbelier | s/hill/\1s/ | 07:14 |
| WinterMute | wouldn't fancy dealing with the fallout you'd get from barring 90% of new users though ;) | 07:14 |
| SRabbelier | :D | 07:15 |
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| danderson | SRabbelier: 90% is much I think | 07:22 |
| danderson | on list we see a noisy minority | 07:22 |
| James--Crook | What problem does a user link_id being the same as an org link_id actually cause? Confusion or something worse? | 07:23 |
| James--Crook | So far we have been thinking about people accidentally using the same LinkId. | 07:24 |
| danderson | offtopic awesome attack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPKWCVUu1xc | 07:25 |
| tpb | Title: YouTube - Shinedown - Devour - (Official Video) (at www.youtube.com) | 07:25 |
| James--Crook | Does it cause a problem if some time after orgs have been chosen I create myself as a user with LinkID apache? I'd have thought not... | 07:25 |
| SRabbelier | James--Crook: it won't | 07:26 |
| SRabbelier | James--Crook: user and org space do not interact | 07:26 |
| SRabbelier | James--Crook: you could even create a user called 'gsoc2009' and it would not matter | 07:26 |
| James--Crook | That's what I thought. | 07:26 |
| SRabbelier | James--Crook: documents have a prefix to differentiate between users, orgs, etc. | 07:26 |
| SRabbelier | James--Crook: and all other places directly refer to their scope by type | 07:26 |
| SRabbelier | James--Crook: :) | 07:27 |
| James--Crook | So we don't HAVE to fix up people who make mistakes either. The only issue is sorting of orgs in the org list | 07:27 |
| James--Crook | where they get sorted by LinkID rather than by name. | 07:27 |
| SRabbelier | James--Crook: we won't have to, but I reckon some people won't like having 'apache' as their link_id | 07:27 |
| SRabbelier | James--Crook: some other org was complaining about a user having their org name as link_id, which is copyrighted | 07:28 |
| James--Crook | Yeah, OK, guess it make sense to want to delete that. Or "inappropriate content in linkIDs". | 07:29 |
| SRabbelier | James--Crook: right | 07:29 |
| James--Crook | clear to me now. thnx. | 07:30 |
| SRabbelier | np :) | 07:30 |
| James--Crook | danderson: re 'awesome attack'. I was most disappointed. I was expecting something like the Boston Metro hack. :-) | 07:31 |
| danderson | I require awesome music to wake up | 07:32 |
| James--Crook | :-) | 07:32 |
| danderson | this track may just make it to my wakeup playlist. | 07:32 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: I am waking up to "Ghost Division - Sabaton (Art of War)" at the moment :D | 07:35 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: that song totally blasts you out of bed :P | 07:35 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: The one you linked is pretty awesome indeed! :D | 07:36 |
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| SRabbelier | danderson: what e-mail should I share the document with? | 07:52 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: your gmail? | 07:53 |
| danderson | david.jc.anderson@gmail | 07:53 |
| danderson | and/or [email protected] | 07:53 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: hehe, what's natulte? | 07:54 |
| danderson | elvish | 07:54 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: oh? | 07:56 |
| danderson | yes. | 07:56 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: what's the story behind that? :D | 07:57 |
| danderson | variant on the Quenya word meaning "he/she who is strong, who supports (morally/in battle)" | 07:57 |
| danderson | the story is long, complicated, and uninteresting :) | 07:57 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: hehee, ok :P | 07:57 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: shared it with your gmail account :D | 07:57 |
| SRabbelier | ooooh, you have a blog there! | 07:57 |
| SRabbelier | how cute :P | 07:57 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: I therefore need to write a Motorola 68k emulator generator in Python. | 07:59 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: sweet :P | 07:59 |
| danderson | keep reading | 07:59 |
| danderson | it gets better/worse | 07:59 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: you totally need to write a generator for Brainfuck, you'd an award for that, I'm sure of it | 08:00 |
| SRabbelier | dear god... | 08:02 |
| SRabbelier | lisp? | 08:02 |
| danderson | yes. | 08:02 |
| * SRabbelier had an entire semester of writing in Scheme | 08:02 | |
| SRabbelier | danderson: that's totally awesome man :) | 08:02 |
| danderson | and if that's your reaction to lisp, maybe you need to use it a bit more :P | 08:02 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: lisp is like, _the_ language for AST stuff | 08:02 |
| danderson | it took me a year of on and off fiddling, and reading Practical Common Lisp to finally get what the fuss was about | 08:02 |
| danderson | SRabbelier: more than that, it's a great language for language-oriented design | 08:03 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: right, exactly :) | 08:03 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: we had loads of fun with Scheme :) | 08:03 |
| danderson | instead of modelling the problem domain etc. etc., you create a new programming language in which the domain can be readily expressed | 08:03 |
| danderson | <3 | 08:03 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: I even wrote lists in our small langauge that had only functions | 08:03 |
| danderson | so that's how I ended up defining a language to describe 68k cpu opcodes | 08:03 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: (that is, I created a lambda function that returned the first value if you pass it 0, or the second value if you pass it 1) | 08:04 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: (and you create a list by nesting these lambda functions) | 08:04 |
| danderson | along with a subset of lisp functions acceptable for use in the implementation of the opcode (let, +/-/*//, that kind of stuff) | 08:04 |
| danderson | and then, epic code generators | 08:04 |
| danderson | eating through the AST and constructing C or Java :) | 08:04 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: the most ineteresting part would be the conversion of Common Lisp to Java I think? | 08:05 |
| danderson | that part is actually relatively easy | 08:05 |
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| danderson | a lispy AST maps reasonably well to Java code | 08:06 |
| SRabbelier | oh really? | 08:06 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: ok nice :) | 08:06 |
| Lennie | hi | 08:06 |
| danderson | the showstopper I hit was lack of unsigned ints in the JVM | 08:06 |
| danderson | whereas the 68k is all about unsigned ints | 08:06 |
| SRabbelier | Lennie: see http://www.natulte.net/index.php/blog/549 for some fun, you'll be going "AAAARGH" before the end of the article :D | 08:06 |
| tpb | Title: Natulte::Blog (at www.natulte.net) | 08:06 |
| danderson | well, not a showstopper exactly | 08:06 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: yup, true | 08:06 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: you just have to hack around it :p | 08:06 |
| danderson | most ops are the same for signed/unsigned | 08:06 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: I'm sure the 68k did not have unsigned long longs :P | 08:07 |
| danderson | there's just stuff like division and comparison that suddenly become slow, because you have to squint at bit patterns | 08:07 |
| danderson | rather than letting the target cpu take care of it | 08:07 |
| * SRabbelier nods | 08:07 | |
| Lennie | "But Java sucks" | 08:07 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: So what's up with all the french? | 08:07 |
| Lennie | argghhhh | 08:07 |
| danderson | Lennie: but Java is the only current target on Android | 08:08 |
| danderson | well, aside from native code, which I guess I could hack up from within google | 08:08 |
| danderson | or outputting dalvik bytecode directly | 08:08 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: that would be even more fun | 08:08 |
| Lennie | ? | 08:08 |
| SRabbelier | anyway, I have a presentation to hold | 08:08 |
| Lennie | I like Java | 08:08 |
| SRabbelier | toodles :) | 08:09 |
| Lennie | haha | 08:09 |
| Lennie | good luck | 08:09 |
| SRabbelier | thanks :) | 08:09 |
| Lennie | ethics ftw :P? | 08:09 |
| SRabbelier | yup | 08:09 |
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| danderson | seeya | 08:09 |
| Lennie | hi _raz_ | 08:36 |
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| Lennie | hi Merio | 08:39 |
| _raz_ | hi Lennie | 08:39 |
| Lennie | still in need of link id change? | 08:39 |
| _raz_ | sort of, I mailed pawel already and am waiting for a reply | 08:40 |
| Lennie | ok | 08:42 |
| WinterMute | danderson, you're a nutter ( the good kind ) | 08:43 |
| Merio | hi Lennie! | 08:47 |
| Lennie | hi Merio :) | 08:47 |
| Merio | Need to go away, be back at 15:00/15:30 :) | 08:49 |
| Lennie | k | 08:50 |
| Lennie | bye | 08:50 |
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| Lennie | _raz_ meet solydzajs | 09:19 |
| Lennie | solydzajs meet _raz_ | 09:19 |
| Lennie | you two can fight over the chaning of his link_id ^_^ | 09:20 |
| solydzajs | yo yo finally | 09:20 |
| solydzajs | wifi | 09:20 |
| solydzajs | :-) | 09:20 |
| solydzajs | _raz_: ping | 09:20 |
| solydzajs | Lennie: going thru emails now | 09:20 |
| _raz_ | pong | 09:22 |
| solydzajs | _raz_: what's the problem ? | 09:24 |
| _raz_ | the user link_id being the same as the org application link_id, which's not that nice at all - it'd be great if the user (who's also the org application submitter) could be deleted | 09:26 |
| solydzajs | _raz_: you are the one who submitted it ? | 09:27 |
| _raz_ | exactly | 09:27 |
| solydzajs | _raz_: what org ? | 09:28 |
| * _raz_ takes on the hat'o'blame | 09:28 | |
| _raz_ | Sledge: pygame | 09:28 |
| _raz_ | errr solydzajs | 09:28 |
| haoyu | is appspot down? | 09:28 |
| solydzajs | _raz_: ok, if we delete your user account we will also delete your org application and you will have to submit it again | 09:29 |
| solydzajs | haoyu: works from me | 09:29 |
| Lennie | haoyu, seems up but it is sluggish today | 09:29 |
| Lennie | the datastore latency is high :) | 09:29 |
| solydzajs | Lennie: yes correct | 09:29 |
| _raz_ | solydzajs: no problem - there's enough time left so I can do it right after anything's cleaned up | 09:30 |
| Lennie | did you create any documents under your user account _raz_? | 09:30 |
| _raz_ | documents published on docs or under the appspot? | 09:31 |
| Lennie | hehe | 09:31 |
| haoyu | can't be accessed from China | 09:31 |
| Lennie | if only we had access to docs :D | 09:31 |
| _raz_ | I just created the org application, if that's what you mean | 09:31 |
| solydzajs | _raz_: ok good | 09:31 |
| Lennie | it's under appspot :D | 09:31 |
| haoyu | I tried both my machine and a remote machine (also located in China) | 09:31 |
| Lennie | haoyu, interesting | 09:31 |
| solydzajs | _raz_: let me check your user account and org app | 09:32 |
| haoyu | oops, traceroute show appspot is BLOCKED by the GFW (aka. Great FireWall) | 09:35 |
| Lennie | :D | 09:36 |
| Lennie | Great FireWall of China :p | 09:36 |
| haoyu | well, it is not a joke | 09:37 |
| Lennie | nope | 09:37 |
| Lennie | I know | 09:37 |
| haoyu | how about Chinese GSoC participants if appspot is BLOCKED? | 09:37 |
| Lennie | they like to block the BBC :) | 09:38 |
| Lennie | haoyu, yeah that sucks. I hope they'll be able to contact the people from google | 09:38 |
| _raz_ | solydzajs: okay | 09:39 |
| solydzajs | _raz_: marcusvonappen ? | 09:39 |
| _raz_ | right | 09:39 |
| solydzajs | _raz_: ok I got your email too | 09:40 |
| solydzajs | _raz_: it's done please test | 09:43 |
| solydzajs | _raz_: let me know if it works | 09:45 |
| _raz_ | looks good - new user acccount created successfully | 09:45 |
| _raz_ | thanks a lot | 09:45 |
| solydzajs | _raz_: ok no problem | 09:45 |
| Lennie | heading home | 09:56 |
| Lennie | ttyl | 09:56 |
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| Lennie | hi | 12:59 |
| Lennie | Merio | 12:59 |
| Lennie | ping | 12:59 |
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| Merio | Lennie: pong | 13:00 |
| Lennie | cool | 13:00 |
| Lennie | pm ^_^ | 13:00 |
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| wsfulton | hi, in my application I've used my own personal linkid for the linkid. Is this id meant to be the id for the project? If so, how can I change it or should I just delete the application and submit a new one? | 13:39 |
| wsfulton | http://socghop.appspot.com/org_app/show/google/gsoc2009/wsfulton is the current 'public' view | 13:40 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/30RP> (at socghop.appspot.com) | 13:40 |
| wsfulton | so wsfulton needs changing to swig | 13:40 |
| ajaksu | that really needs a better wording in UI, my first document also had my personal linkid instead of a useful one :/ | 13:47 |
| lh | ajaksu: it's in the documentation. i realize the tool tip could have been better and there is an issue on file to improve it, but folks also need to read. :) | 13:49 |
| haoyu | I think link_id should be kinda of implemetation details and should not exposed to final users | 13:51 |
| ajaksu | lh: IIRC, the UI just says 'linkid', where 'doc linkid' or 'new linkid' would be much more effective (to avoid this particular error) than any docs or tooltips could | 13:52 |
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| haoyu | Lennie, ping | 13:52 |
| lh | ajaksu: update the tool tip bug? | 13:52 |
| lh | http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=331&q=tool%20tip%20lhospo&colspec=ID%20Type%20Priority%20Status%20Owner%20Milestone%20Program%20Effort%20Summary | 13:53 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/30Rm> (at code.google.com) | 13:53 |
| Lennie | ponh | 13:53 |
| Lennie | haoyu, wassup? | 13:53 |
| haoyu | I think the link id in everywhere shoud be replaced to 'User id' 'org id' etc | 13:53 |
| haoyu | Lennie, wsfulton have problem with submitted a appliaction with wrong link id | 13:54 |
| Lennie | yeah we know | 13:54 |
| haoyu | is there way to fix this? | 13:54 |
| Lennie | there might be | 13:54 |
| lh | haoyu: see the issue report | 13:54 |
| haoyu | or maybe just delete the old one and create a new one? | 13:54 |
| wsfulton | I don't mind making a new application, won't take long if it is much trouble | 13:55 |
| lh | that's probably much quicker than asking the devs to delete stuff for you | 13:55 |
| Lennie | we'll have to delete the application anyway | 13:56 |
| * haoyu agree with lh | 13:56 | |
| Lennie | since the system wont let him :) | 13:56 |
| wsfulton | okay no probs, I'll make a new application | 13:56 |
| Lennie | just tell me the link id of the old one? | 13:56 |
| lh | Lennie: as you wish :) | 13:56 |
| haoyu | lh, I have see the issue report, so why not fix this? maybe it is too late to fix this? | 13:57 |
| Lennie | haoyu, the biggest problem is that appengine uses the label set in the super class | 13:57 |
| Lennie | so we can't just overwrite it | 13:57 |
| lh | haoyu: because by the time we do the next release of melange, we will no longer be taking organization applications. :) | 13:58 |
| Lennie | students dont have to fill it in :) | 13:58 |
| haoyu | yes indeed | 13:58 |
| Lennie | we tried to fix it, but we havent found a suitable solution | 13:59 |
| Lennie | and we also have more pressing issues :) | 13:59 |
| haoyu | Lennie, all these things are Linkable object and so they share the same link_id, right? | 13:59 |
| Lennie | yes | 13:59 |
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| ajaksu | lh: http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=331 done :) | 14:00 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/30Rv> (at code.google.com) | 14:00 |
| haoyu | So how about a new 'link_id_name' param when rendering template | 14:01 |
| lh | ajaksu: tyvm | 14:01 |
| haoyu | then set link_id_name='User id' for profile page and link_id_name='Org id' for org page | 14:02 |
| Lennie | wsfulton, send an email to [email protected] telling him what the link_id of your application is, so he can delete it :) | 14:02 |
| Lennie | haoyu, it doesnt work that way | 14:02 |
| Lennie | if it did we would have fixed it already | 14:03 |
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| haoyu | well.. | 14:03 |
| wsfulton | Lennie, will do, thanks | 14:04 |
| Lennie | hi solydzajs ^_^ | 14:04 |
| solydzajs | Hi Lennie :-) | 14:05 |
| lh | solydzajs: hail! | 14:06 |
| solydzajs | lh: hello :-) | 14:07 |
| wsfulton | <Lennie> just tell me the link id of the old one? > it is wsfulton, the same as my personal id. I've emailed pawel | 14:15 |
| Lennie | k | 14:15 |
| Lennie | thanks | 14:15 |
| solydzajs | looking into that right now | 14:16 |
| Lennie | should be deleted soon | 14:16 |
| solydzajs | Lennie: it's weird GAE console showed me more than 1000 users before in data viewer | 14:16 |
| solydzajs | Lennie: now it doesn't | 14:16 |
| Lennie | lol k | 14:16 |
| Lennie | doesnt do it here either | 14:17 |
| solydzajs | it's weird | 14:18 |
| solydzajs | something did break datastore ? | 14:18 |
| Lennie | no | 14:18 |
| Lennie | guess its just GAE :S? | 14:19 |
| solydzajs | wsfulton: can you check if your account still exist on socghop ? | 14:19 |
| solydzajs | wsfulton: user profile, not org application | 14:20 |
| solydzajs | ok got it | 14:21 |
| solydzajs | it's gae problem | 14:21 |
| solydzajs | wsfulton: ok I just confirmed your account | 14:21 |
| solydzajs | wsfulton: you want me to delete SWIG org application ? | 14:22 |
| solydzajs | wsfulton: I need confirmation cause the application deadline is soon and I want to make sure you will resubmit it in time | 14:22 |
| wsfulton | seems to be there, I've been using it | 14:24 |
| solydzajs | wsfulton: ok | 14:24 |
| solydzajs | wsfulton: do you want me to delete SWIG org application ? | 14:24 |
| solydzajs | or do you want to change the link id of the org to swig ? | 14:25 |
| wsfulton | I've submitted a new one: http://socghop.appspot.com/org_app/edit/google/gsoc2009/swig The old one does need deleting: http://socghop.appspot.com/org_app/edit/google/gsoc2009/wsfulton | 14:27 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/30SQ> (at socghop.appspot.com) | 14:27 |
| solydzajs | wsfulton: ok deleting now | 14:27 |
| wsfulton | my personal account seems to be working okay... I logged off and back on again | 14:27 |
| solydzajs | wsfulton: the old has been just deleted, please confirm | 14:28 |
| wsfulton | checking... | 14:28 |
| wsfulton | seems to have gone... I can only see the one application now (the one I want) | 14:29 |
| wsfulton | tks | 14:29 |
| solydzajs | ok good :-) | 14:29 |
| solydzajs | so issue solved :-) | 14:30 |
| wsfulton | indeedy, great stuff, many thanks | 14:30 |
| solydzajs | no problem | 14:30 |
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| Lennie | nn | 19:08 |
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| danderson | \o/ | 19:13 |
| danderson | refactoring of release tool progresses | 19:13 |
| danderson | there is now a logging subsystem that logs (with colorization) to the terminal, but also logs *everything*, including subprocess stdout/err, to a transcript log | 19:13 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: ping | 19:16 |
| danderson | hi | 19:16 |
| danderson | commence speaking | 19:16 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: you import threading but then don't use it? | 19:17 |
| danderson | damn, where? | 19:17 |
| danderson | oops, got it | 19:17 |
| danderson | fixed | 19:17 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: http://code.google.com/p/soc/source/browse/trunk/scripts/release/release.py?spec=svn2517&r=2517 | 19:17 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/30Yv> (at code.google.com) | 19:17 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: hehe, ok :) | 19:17 |
| danderson | if you have other comments (on this or previous changes, please use the code review tool from google code | 19:19 |
| danderson | I'm off to locate food | 19:19 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: I will :) | 19:19 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: just figured it was such a small change :) | 19:20 |
| danderson | oh | 19:20 |
| danderson | and if you can figure out a more elegant way of doing input than my sys.stdin.readline/terminal_echo combo, I'm all ears | 19:20 |
| danderson | the problem being that with the normal stdout redirected, I have to manually recreate raw_input() | 19:20 |
| danderson | and yet I still want to log the prompts/responses to the transcript file | 19:21 |
| danderson | (but not to the terminal, because it's already there since we prompted the user) | 19:21 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: Hmmm, this is always a problem I think | 19:23 |
| SRabbelier | danderson: (even when doing redirection in bash) | 19:23 |
| danderson | yeah, but I managed to work around it with a hack | 19:24 |
| danderson | I'm just asking for help to make the hack a bit more elegant :P | 19:24 |
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| danderson | but I'm sure tlarsen will have an elegant solution :P | 19:25 |
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| solydzajs | danderson: +1 :-) | 19:51 |
| solydzajs | danderson: we will take care of that soon I hope | 19:51 |
| SRabbelier | Going to bed now | 20:10 |
| SRabbelier | cya'll later :) | 20:10 |
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| serphen`` | heya :) | 21:48 |
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