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| solydzajs | yo veelck :-) | 05:53 |
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| veelck | yo solydzajs :) | 06:52 |
| solydzajs | good to have you here :-) | 06:55 |
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| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier|Uni: Do you need me to update my i18n patch? | 07:27 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | solydzajs: are you willing to accept an i18n patch? | 07:28 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | MatthewWilkes: one question, does it use ugettext or ugettext_lazy? tlarsen said something about ugettext lazy not working or such? | 07:28 |
| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier|Uni: It uses lazy, but there's an issue with language detection on GAE | 07:29 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier|Uni: yep we need to double check but we can accept it for sure, just need to check ugettext and ugettext_lazy and be consistent for all strings | 07:29 |
| solydzajs | MatthewWilkes: are you willing to contribute some more code too ? We can assign you some small tasks if you are available | 07:30 |
| MatthewWilkes | solydzajs: Very willing, once I know what I'll have to do I can plan time into my schedule for it | 07:32 |
| MatthewWilkes | solydzajs: Congrats on your BDFLing, btw | 07:34 |
| solydzajs | MatthewWilkes: great, thanks a lot :-) | 07:34 |
| solydzajs | MatthewWilkes: thanks in advance for all your contributions | 07:34 |
| MatthewWilkes | hehe | 07:34 |
| solydzajs | MatthewWilkes: how about we schedule a meeting for tomorrow ? | 07:34 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | :) | 07:34 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | nice | 07:34 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | MatthewWilkes: send your patch and I'll put it up on codereview if desired :) | 07:35 |
| solydzajs | MatthewWilkes: we can discuss tasks some more, by tomorrow I should have a list of features ready and sent to the melange group | 07:35 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | solydzajs: nice work on that :) | 07:35 |
| solydzajs | MatthewWilkes: you use skype ? gtalk ? aim ? | 07:35 |
| MatthewWilkes | Ok, I'm in work until midday then lectures until 4 (GMT) | 07:36 |
| MatthewWilkes | I'm not on GTalk, my jabber gateway's playing up, but skype or aim are fine | 07:36 |
| MatthewWilkes | When's convenient for you? You're all in CET, aren't you? | 07:39 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | MatthewWilkes: yup, it's 1:40PM atm here | 07:42 |
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| solydzajs | Hi BarryCarlyon | 07:59 |
| veelck | yo solydzajs :) | 08:27 |
| veelck | wrng keys ;-) sry | 08:28 |
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| * BarryCarlyon waves | 08:55 | |
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| solydzajs | BarryCarlyon: you are interested in contributing to the project ? | 09:51 |
| solydzajs | Hi Merio | 09:51 |
| solydzajs | Hi penyaskito :-) | 09:51 |
| Merio | Hi solydzajs :) | 09:51 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | solydzajs: are you pinging everybody? :P | 09:51 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier|Uni: everybody new | 09:51 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier|Uni: you want me to ping you too ?:-) | 09:52 |
| Merio | I've looked at GSoC mailing list post... and willing to contribute :) | 09:52 |
| BarryCarlyon | Sorry yes solydzajs I am. | 09:52 |
| solydzajs | ok that means we have to new williing to contribute GSoC students :-) | 09:53 |
| BarryCarlyon | I've not had the time since hte post came out to sort myself out and read wiki etc. | 09:53 |
| solydzajs | any experience with python, django, app engine guys ? | 09:53 |
| BarryCarlyon | Very little. | 09:53 |
| Merio | Same here | 09:53 |
| BarryCarlyon | I'm more of a PHP guy. | 09:53 |
| BarryCarlyon | And website builder. | 09:53 |
| solydzajs | brb lunch | 09:54 |
| Merio | PHP, Java, Javascript at most | 09:54 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | solydzajs: I felt left out :( | 09:56 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | BarryCarlyon, Merio: We could use someone with JS skills, but I'm afraid we don't use php | 09:57 |
| BarryCarlyon | BOO! HISS. Lol | 09:57 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | Ofcourse someone with experience in how to make a website more user friendly etc. is usefull too | 09:57 |
| BarryCarlyon | Woot :-D | 09:57 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | It's just not an option, see also http://code.google.com/p/soc/wiki/WhyUseGoogleAppEngine | 09:57 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/2iqO> (at code.google.com) | 09:57 |
| BarryCarlyon | Whats not an option? | 09:58 |
| MatthewWilkes | hehe "# Plone CMS system is written in Python. It would require substantial change to run on GAE. " - slight understatement :) | 09:58 |
| BarryCarlyon | My boo hiss does contain sarcasm | 09:58 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | BarryCarlyon: :) I do hope so | 09:59 |
| Merio | SRabbelier|Uni: my GSoC project was all in Javascript (using Dojotoolkit framework and Sarissa)... experience with usability having worked 2 years for a local web agency | 09:59 |
| Merio | Some experience having used dojotoolkit's DTL engine | 10:00 |
| Merio | with Django I mean | 10:00 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | Merio: cool; for instance, do you know of a good way to get tooltips? :P | 10:00 |
| BarryCarlyon | Looks like I'll be learning both rails and python and coldfusion at the same time :-D | 10:00 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | Merio: the one we use currently is so-so | 10:01 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | BarryCarlyon: hehe, toss in Django for some extra fun? | 10:01 |
| BarryCarlyon | Woot | 10:02 |
| * BarryCarlyon checks library for a django book | 10:03 | |
| MatthewWilkes | rails and coldfusion!? | 10:04 |
| MatthewWilkes | I'm so sorry. | 10:04 |
| BarryCarlyon | Rails for fun | 10:04 |
| BarryCarlyon | Coldfusion becuase uni is teaching it to me | 10:04 |
| BarryCarlyon | for some reason | 10:04 |
| MatthewWilkes | ah | 10:04 |
| MatthewWilkes | The same reason I had to learn J2EE | 10:04 |
| MatthewWilkes | At least I got some excellent experience in spotting bad system design | 10:04 |
| BarryCarlyon | :-P | 10:04 |
| Merio | SRabbelier|Uni: sorry can't fully understand what do you mean for "get" | 10:05 |
| MatthewWilkes | the crazy-ass transactional ORM that used 8GiB of memory under load, for example | 10:05 |
| BarryCarlyon | He means if you mouse over something and get a box. | 10:05 |
| Merio | SRabbelier|Uni: please tell me the files concerned :) | 10:05 |
| BarryCarlyon | Like if you mouse over an image and get the alt tag | 10:05 |
| Merio | BarryCarlyon: yes I know :) I'm meaning ... how to store tooltips django-friendly? Which kind of templates to use? Or how to get them in JavaScript? With HTML inside? | 10:06 |
| BarryCarlyon | o | 10:06 |
| Merio | (sorry for delay in writing, I'm just setting up Melange in my box) | 10:07 |
| Merio | Great, it works! :) | 10:08 |
| penyaskito | hi solydzajs | 10:08 |
| * BarryCarlyon is waiting for email response from some stupid tech people, so is gonna go set up melange and django up on his box | 10:11 | |
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| * BarryCarlyon discovers SVN is not installed on his box... | 10:17 | |
| BarryCarlyon | Yay it runs. | 10:40 |
| * BarryCarlyon dances | 10:40 | |
| SRabbelier|Uni | BarryCarlyon: nice :) | 10:44 |
| * BarryCarlyon wonders what to do now | 10:45 | |
| * BarryCarlyon tidys his box and makes some alias | 10:46 | |
| SRabbelier|Uni | BarryCarlyon: well, if are you interested in helping out in the python/django area, you should probably start out with learning python :) | 10:46 |
| BarryCarlyon | I learnt a little last year whilst applying for one of hte GSoC projects. | 10:47 |
| BarryCarlyon | I usually pick it up as I go along :-D | 10:47 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | BarryCarlyon: Would be a good thing to try and learn your way around the codebase; for example, try adding a button somewhere | 11:06 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | BarryCarlyon: doesn't really matter what you make it do :) | 11:06 |
| BarryCarlyon | Dynamically? If I wanted a button I'd just add some HTML, mind you I need to look thru the source code and see how things are running | 11:09 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | BarryCarlyon: well, you'd have to do two things | 11:14 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | BarryCarlyon: ofcourse add the button in the HTML (that is, in the django template) | 11:15 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | BarryCarlyon: but also add some logic to do something when the button is clicked | 11:15 |
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| madrazr | SRabbelier|Uni: I have good experience with Python and some experience with Django and GAE, this is the small app I have been working on http://curvturesult.appspot.com/ | 11:38 |
| tpb | Title: See Your VTU Results - Home! (at curvturesult.appspot.com) | 11:38 |
| madrazr | the app uses Django trunk on GAE | 11:38 |
| madrazr | and I have been following discussions here from a long time, probably ever since the most active development started, but haven't had any time to contribute till now. | 11:39 |
| madrazr | Do I come in handy in any way? | 11:39 |
| madrazr | can you please guide me how to start working on some issue? | 11:39 |
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| SRabbelier|Uni | madrazr: cool! :) | 11:56 |
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| SRabbelier|Uni | madrazr: you defnitly come in handy! :) | 11:57 |
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| madrazr | SRabbelier|Uni: thanks :) | 12:06 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier|Uni: how to go about, I am not very much used to the Workflow of Melange | 12:06 |
| madrazr | ? | 12:06 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | madrazr: do you know your way around the app? | 12:07 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier|Uni: I did not get you | 12:07 |
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| SRabbelier|Uni | madrazr: like, have you been using it? | 12:08 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier|Uni: you mean Melange? | 12:08 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | madrazr: yes :P | 12:08 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier|Uni: yeah | 12:09 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier|Uni: but not much | 12:09 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier|Uni: I am confused as what to use and what not | 12:09 |
| madrazr | and did not understand how it works fully | 12:09 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | madrazr: we can do a demo soon with all potential contributors maybe? | 12:09 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | madrazr: walk y'all through the app, and how it works? | 12:09 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier|Uni: sure | 12:10 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier|Uni: it would be good if you get a video of it, since I will not be here till Monday, 19th | 12:10 |
| madrazr | have to give one last Theory exam for this semester on Monday | 12:10 |
| * SRabbelier|Uni nods | 12:11 | |
| madrazr | SRabbelier|Uni: or if the demo is any time after Monday I would be extremely grateful to you | 12:11 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | madrazr: sure, that would be np | 12:12 |
| madrazr | Monday is also fine with me, since I am +0530 GMT, so will finish of the exam early | 12:12 |
| Merio | Please let me know too :) | 12:12 |
| madrazr | s/I am/I am on/ | 12:12 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | Merio, madrazr: are you two following the melange-soc-dev/melange-soc lists? | 12:12 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier|Uni: one of them | 12:13 |
| * madrazr goes to check which one | 12:13 | |
| SRabbelier|Uni | madrazr: You should subscribe to both then :) | 12:13 |
| Merio | Srabbelier|Uni: me too | 12:13 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier|Uni: Oh Ok | 12:13 |
| madrazr | doing it right now | 12:14 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | madrazr: awesome :) | 12:14 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | I'll announce a demo like that to melange-soc-dev | 12:14 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier|Uni: Ok thanks | 12:14 |
| madrazr | Ok I am subscribed to melange-soc, searching the other | 12:15 |
| Merio | SRabbelier|Uni: subscribed now to both | 12:15 |
| * madrazr too | 12:16 | |
| Merio | SRabbelier|Uni: I'm investigating the tooltip issue. The problem here is that mouseout event in JavaScript is crap :) Already tried some solutions, but they're not perfect... thinking about something else ;) | 12:18 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | Merio: awesome! :) | 12:22 |
| Merio | Solved... just making some more tests.. :) | 12:44 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | Merio: really? | 12:50 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | Merio: awesome | 12:50 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | Merio: how'd you do that? :) | 12:50 |
| Merio | SRabbelier|Uni: I'm going to submit the patch to issue 132 | 12:50 |
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| Merio | SRabbelier|Uni: I've made inside the jquery-bt library a simple pool of created objects... everytime a tooltip is shown, it would iterate through all the bt objects inside the page and turn off them... simple but effectual :) | 12:52 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | Merio: you should submit it as a patch to jquery ;) | 12:58 |
| Merio | SRabbelier|Uni: yes, I know ;) But, for the moment, it would solve the Melange issue ;) Going to search where to submit the patch to them :) | 13:00 |
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| SRabbelier|Uni | tlarsen: heya :) | 13:58 |
| tlarsen | SRabbelier|Uni: Howdy! | 13:58 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | tlarsen: how was your flight back to the ole' farm? :P | 13:59 |
| tlarsen | It was not delayed, even though the plane was late due to the snow. | 13:59 |
| tlarsen | It wasn't snowing when it was time for us to take off, so no de-icing was necessary. | 13:59 |
| tlarsen | It is going to be quite cold here tonight. | 13:59 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | tlarsen: damn, you got lucky! | 14:00 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | tlarsen: my flight was delayed from leaving for like 1.5 hours | 14:00 |
| tlarsen | Tonight's low is -12 C. | 14:01 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | tlarsen: ouch; is the cattle cold resistant? :P | 14:01 |
| tlarsen | Yes, they have lots of fur at this time of year (except for the mama cow, who was shaved for the auction where we bought her in November) | 14:01 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | tlarsen: you give her blankets or such? | 14:02 |
| durin42 | tlarsen: glad you guys visited last week, today the high is -18 c here | 14:02 |
| tlarsen | The wind chill is going to be -23 C. | 14:02 |
| tlarsen | durin42: Yeah, the same Alberta Clipper is hitting us tonight. | 14:02 |
| * durin42 hates it when the number C starts equalling the number F | 14:03 | |
| tlarsen | SRabbelier|Uni: No, we just give them all extra grain and fresh hay. | 14:03 |
| tlarsen | SRabbelier|Uni: We have a couple of wooded areas that are fenced in. The cattle spend the cold weather there. | 14:03 |
| tlarsen | SRabbelier|Uni: I have a room in the barn that has a door opening to the pasture, but the cattle do not have access to the barn right now. | 14:04 |
| tlarsen | SRabbelier|Uni: The electricians won't ever show up to finish the in-ground conduits so that we can get them inspected and covered up. | 14:04 |
| tlarsen | SRabbelier|Uni: Because the trenches (when they were 2+ m deep) were originally dug for the geothermal, they have been open for 6+ months. | 14:04 |
| tlarsen | SRabbelier|Uni: It is getting tiring, because they criss-cross and you can't drive vehicles (tractors, trucks, the Bobcat, etc.) where you need ot. | 14:05 |
| tlarsen | Err, "to". | 14:05 |
| tlarsen | SRabbelier|Uni: I really want them to actually show up, finish, and cover the trenches so we can move around again. | 14:05 |
| tlarsen | SRabbelier|Uni: The cattle can't use approximately half of my pasture because of the trenches. | 14:06 |
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| SRabbelier|Uni | tlarsen: Dude, that's totally lame | 14:10 |
| SRabbelier|Uni | tlarsen: why does it seem there's only very lame workman in your area of the globe? :P | 14:11 |
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| tlarsen | SRabbelier|Uni: Yes? | 17:27 |
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