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*** lh changes topic to "Want to make Summer of Code and the Highly Open Participation Contest better? Melange is the next generation GSoC and GHOP web app - Code and more at http://code.google.com/p/soc/ - Want to contribute? Start here: http://code.google.com/p/soc/wiki/GettingStarted - Logs at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23melange - No Office Hours This Week" | 03:10 | |
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durin42 | tlarsen: I think I finally nailed down the hgsubversion bugs. I'm verifying now, although I just got a 502 from googlecode. | 13:38 |
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tlarsen | OK, I'm commenting on your resume. | 13:38 |
tlarsen | There is *lots* to comment on. :( | 13:38 |
durin42 | tlarsen: I figured :/ | 13:39 |
durin42 | tlarsen: I'm heading home for lunch now, but I'll look at your comments this evening | 13:39 |
durin42 | The formatting is a disaster? and I'm expressing things poorly? | 13:39 |
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tlarsen | Yes. | 13:50 |
tlarsen | durin42: I sent my *first* set of comments. You will probably need to address most of them before I can help you further. | 13:50 |
durin42 | tlarsen: alrighty, thanks. I'll revise and respond tonight. | 13:50 |
durin42 | tlarsen: cool, I'll do this as soon as I get home tonight | 13:51 |
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SRabbelier | tlarsen: how's going? | 14:36 |
tlarsen | SRabbelier: I feel awful. | 14:36 |
tlarsen | SRabbelier: I had forgotten how bad my allergies were in the Bay Area when the air quality was bad. | 14:36 |
schultmc | tlarsen: you should've seen the air when I flew into LAX last night - it was way worse than the bay area :) | 14:42 |
SRabbelier | tlarsen: ouch, that | 14:45 |
SRabbelier | 's not so good | 14:45 |
durin42 | tlarsen: there wwas a lot of haze over the bay last night when I was flying out | 14:47 |
tlarsen | durin42: That might have been onshore flow (fog). | 14:48 |
durin42 | could be | 14:48 |
tlarsen | durin42: That being said, whenever a high pressure system parks itself over the Bay Area (which is what caused the warmer-than-usual temperatures this weekend), the air quality gets a lot worse. | 14:49 |
durin42 | tlarsen: I noticed I was having problems with my contacts | 14:49 |
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lh | SRabbelier: melange meeting at 2:30 pm can you make it | 15:08 |
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SRabbelier | lh: I'd need some form of transport | 15:11 |
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SRabbelier | lh: I'm at CL5 | 15:11 |
lh | SRabbelier: will pick you up at 2 | 15:11 |
SRabbelier | lh: awesome | 15:12 |
SRabbelier | lh: we're being served food here | 15:12 |
SRabbelier | lh: will you drop me back off afterwards? | 15:12 |
lh | SRabbelier: yes of course | 15:13 |
SRabbelier | lh: awesome, cos there's some really interesting talks at 16:30 and after | 15:13 |
durin42 | Right, you two are talking PDT. | 15:14 |
durin42 | I was having trouble figuring out how LH was going to pick you up 10 minutes ago. | 15:14 |
durin42 | (Then again, maybe she has a time machine and that's how she seems to be so good at multitasking?) | 15:14 |
lh | SRabbelier: np | 15:14 |
SRabbelier | lh: awesome! | 15:15 |
durin42 | SRabbelier: enjoying the gittogether? | 15:15 |
SRabbelier | durin42: yes, it is cool :) | 15:16 |
SRabbelier | durin42: it's likie the mentor summit, only less chaotic | 15:16 |
SRabbelier | solydzajs: good morning | 15:21 |
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solydzajs | SRabbelier: hi :-) | 15:22 |
solydzajs | tlarsen: I will delete those previous triangle gif files from repo. | 15:25 |
SRabbelier | solydzajs: how did you sleep? | 15:25 |
SRabbelier | lh: and you? I hope I didn't wake you up | 15:25 |
tlarsen | solydzajs: No need. | 15:25 |
solydzajs | tlarsen: ok. | 15:25 |
lh | SRabbelier: it's ok, i dont actually need sleep | 15:26 |
tlarsen | solydzajs: They can just stay, in case we want to use them for something else. Though, I like the smaller blue ones that the source browser uses better. :) | 15:26 |
solydzajs | SRabbelier: good :-) my floor bad was awesome man :-) | 15:26 |
solydzajs | tlarsen: yep those blue ones are nice :-) | 15:26 |
lh | SRabbelier: do you want to stay with the spearces' tonight or with me. | 15:26 |
* lh thinks we should all go hang out at casa de spearce actually | 15:27 | |
durin42 | lh: would you tell spearce I enjoyed talking to him about VCS stuff? It made the morning setup very interesting | 15:28 |
lh | durin42: shall do | 15:29 |
SRabbelier | lh: yes | 15:29 |
SRabbelier | lh: I'm cool with all hanging out at spearce | 15:29 |
SRabbelier | lh: and space-wise it might be more optimal if I stay at the spearce residence :) | 15:29 |
solydzajs | durin42: yo, how was your flight ? | 15:29 |
durin42 | solydzajs: exhausting, didn't sleep well. | 15:30 |
durin42 | solydzajs: but once I got home, I slept _great_ | 15:30 |
lh | kk, we are down a scorche at this point | 15:30 |
durin42 | getting home at 3 AM means falling asleep fast | 15:30 |
solydzajs | durin42: you can always imagine my long flight home :-) it's like 15h :D | 15:30 |
durin42 | solydzajs: yeah, I'm glad it only took me 5ish hours | 15:31 |
scorche | down a scorche? | 15:34 |
lh | you went home honey | 15:35 |
scorche | i did | 15:35 |
lh | scorche: how was your flight? | 15:35 |
lh | scorche: just means more room in suite de lh | 15:35 |
scorche | eh...fine...uneventful | 15:35 |
lh | scorche: good | 15:36 |
SRabbelier | solydzajs: where are you flying from? | 15:38 |
solydzajs | SRabbelier: SFO, 1:38 PM tomorrow. | 15:38 |
solydzajs | tlarsen: where are you flying from ? San Jose ? | 15:39 |
SRabbelier | solydzajs: to? | 15:39 |
solydzajs | SRabbelier: Frankfurt | 15:39 |
solydzajs | SRabbelier: and then Frankfurt-Wroclaw | 15:39 |
SRabbelier | solydzajs: aaah, how long a layover? | 15:39 |
solydzajs | SRabbelier: 3-4 h I think | 15:39 |
SRabbelier | solydzajs: whoah | 15:40 |
solydzajs | SRabbelier: where are you right now ? | 15:45 |
SRabbelier | solydzajs: a google building far far away | 15:45 |
SRabbelier | solydzajs: 3 miles or so | 15:45 |
solydzajs | SRabbelier: oh ok :-) | 15:45 |
SRabbelier | lh: the lunch was awesome | 15:49 |
SRabbelier | lh: you are the bestest | 15:49 |
lh | SRabbelier: yeah | 15:49 |
lh | i mean yay | 15:49 |
SRabbelier | lh: lol, nice :P | 15:49 |
durin42 | tlarsen: if you want to use hgsubversion, all the bugs I've been able to find against melange have been fixed | 15:51 |
SRabbelier | durin42: shouldn't it be hg2subversion or sumfin | 15:52 |
durin42 | SRabbelier: hg2svn would have been even better | 15:52 |
SRabbelier | durin42: right | 15:53 |
durin42 | but hgsubversion didn't have any collisions in googlespace | 15:53 |
SRabbelier | hg2svn does? | 15:53 |
durin42 | yeah | 15:53 |
durin42 | sadly | 15:53 |
durin42 | and hgsvn is already taken too | 15:53 |
durin42 | and I'd have used hg-svn to go along with the git-svn convention, but google treats dashes as spaces for searching or something | 15:54 |
durin42 | *sigh* | 15:54 |
grim | durin42: not if you wrap it in quotes | 16:04 |
durin42 | grim: I suppose, but I like my projects to be globally-unique google strings so that it's easier for users to find help for problems and easier for me to get an idea of how much use it is seeing | 16:04 |
SRabbelier | durin42: hg_svn? | 16:05 |
grim | durin42: then just dominate the results | 16:05 |
durin42 | grim: heh, I probably would over time | 16:05 |
grim | ie, if you sure for my first and last name, you really get me, and not the 2 other gary kramlich's ;) | 16:05 |
durin42 | Hm, I think I figured out a way to get hg svn to be clonable | 16:07 |
durin42 | so I could (in theory) svnclone something, then post it and there would be one extra command to run after cloning the hg repo | 16:08 |
SRabbelier | lh: ping | 16:21 |
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SRabbelier | lh, tlarsen, durin42: ping? | 16:55 |
tlarsen | SRabbelier: pong | 16:58 |
tlarsen | solydzajs: I leave from SJC at 8:20 AM tomorrow (Tuesday), I believe. | 17:11 |
solydzajs | tlarsen: oh ok. yep I was wondering whether SJC or SFO :-) now I know:-) | 17:14 |
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grim | what's the "story" type in the issue tracker? | 21:01 |
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MatthewWilkes | grim: A user story. It's a high-level description of a feature set | 21:02 |
grim | alrighty, what are we (really you guys at the moment) looking to have under the /docs urls? | 21:02 |
tlarsen | http://www.extremeplanner.com/blog/2006/01/writing-good-user-stories.html | 21:06 |
tpb | <http://ln-s.net/2Ocr> (at www.extremeplanner.com) | 21:06 |
grim | tlarsen: that cleared things up a bit :) | 21:08 |
grim | is this aimed at python 2.5 or 2.6? | 21:10 |
grim | and 2 space indent right? | 21:10 |
tlarsen | Python 2.5 | 21:10 |
tlarsen | 2-space indent (Google style) | 21:10 |
grim | found something easy to get me started ;) | 21:10 |
grim | tlarsen: sorry i don't know the google python style (well yet :)) | 21:11 |
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tlarsen | http://code.google.com/p/soc/wiki/PythonStyleGuide is almost entirely based on the internal Python style guide at Google. | 21:12 |
tpb | <http://ln-s.net/2Ocz> (at code.google.com) | 21:12 |
grim | ah, awesome | 21:12 |
tlarsen | There are a couple of minor changes. We have tried to point out where it is different from Python PEPs. | 21:12 |
* grim bookmarks that page | 21:13 | |
grim | i'm sure i'll need it again :) | 21:13 |
grim | patches goto the issue tracker? | 21:14 |
MatthewWilkes | tlarsen: Ah! I did wonder why indentation was non-PEP8 | 21:14 |
grim | and i assume modelines are no good right? | 21:16 |
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tlarsen | grim: patches go to the melange-soc-dev mailing list. | 21:24 |
tlarsen | See: | 21:24 |
tlarsen | http://code.google.com/p/soc/wiki/ContributionReviews#Casual_contributors | 21:24 |
tpb | <http://ln-s.net/2Od4> (at code.google.com) | 21:24 |
grim | cool, i'll need to subscribe to this, but i'm going to actually get this done first :) | 21:24 |
tlarsen | http://code.google.com/p/soc/wiki/ContributionReviews#Patch_emails | 21:25 |
tpb | <http://ln-s.net/2Od5> (at code.google.com) | 21:25 |
grim | cool | 21:26 |
MatthewWilkes | I don't mean to be a bandwidth thief, especially after the bleeding edge only comment, but issue #69, views should have their page objects from soc.logic.site.map passed in as a default kwarg, is that for building features later or should it have a visible UI change? I'm assuming the former but as I don't know django wanted to double check | 21:35 |
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grim | is User.nick_name verified to be unique anywhere? | 21:42 |
grim | or required to be unique... | 21:42 |
tlarsen | MatthewWilkes: it is for building stuff like breadcrumbs, and to practice DRY (don't-repeat-yourself). | 21:44 |
tlarsen | MatthewWilkes: The details in the Page object should be used, for example, as the window title, and such. | 21:44 |
tlarsen | MatthewWilkes: I think I am going to refactor that directly into the View classes that Sverre checked into soc/views/models recently. For those views, the Page object itself will just go away. | 21:45 |
tlarsen | grim: What we really need is better help text for nick_name. | 21:45 |
grim | tlarsen: and link_name (wth is that?) :) | 21:45 |
tlarsen | grim: It is just supposed to be a human-readable "name". It could even be your *real* name, but isn't required to be. | 21:45 |
tlarsen | grim: And no, it doesn't have to be unique. | 21:46 |
tlarsen | grim: link_name *does* have to be unique, and it has formatting rules, because it is used in URLs and the like. Think of it as a machine-readable "nick name" that is used to make permalinks to your content, etc. | 21:46 |
grim | ok, the trivial thing i found to fix is to actually display a useful name in the create host (yes very trivial) and i was going to use nick_name or link_name, but it looks like i should be using the google account name | 21:46 |
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grim | ah so link literally means "used in links" | 21:47 |
grim | wouldn't it be easier to just escape and so on for the link name? | 21:47 |
grim | i'm just concerned that links will be busted when someone changes thier link_name, but if it was an escapped version of the nick_name you'd still have the same problems anyways | 21:49 |
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grim | i assume that the testing polices is disregarded since no tests are actually in the public svn? | 22:11 |
MatthewWilkes | grim: There are tests there | 22:12 |
grim | ah, then the wiki is wrong ;) it says scripts/tests | 22:12 |
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MatthewWilkes | Nimbus:melange matthewwilkes$ python2.5 tests/run.py | 22:13 |
MatthewWilkes | ........... | 22:13 |
MatthewWilkes | ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | 22:13 |
MatthewWilkes | Ran 11 tests in 0.120s | 22:13 |
grim | alright, my bad, was missign python-nose ;) | 22:14 |
grim | and since i didn't have a bin, i was looking for a script in trunk/ | 22:14 |
MatthewWilkes | right, bedtime | 22:14 |
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