Sunday, 2022-04-10

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marzoulHi ! I just noticed that the #yosys irc channel has 2 days public history of logs available at https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/yosys/07:01
marzoulWould it be possible to setup the same for this #f4pga channel ?07:01
marzoulIt would be very appreciated :-)07:01
tpbTitle: #yosys on 2022-04-10 — irc logs at whitequark.org (at libera.irclog.whitequark.org)07:01
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josuahmarzoul: maybe people do not care too much because there is a slack bridge07:43
josuahmarzoul: and you are the second one I encounter that use IRC07:44
josuahmarzoul: I think you'd rather reach whitequark for that07:46
josuahbut hey! IRC is fun! come-on slack people, give it a peak ;)07:46
marzoul@josuah Yeah indeed but if it's just for that purpose, I don't feel like opening yet another account somewhere else in the internet spaces ;-)07:49
josuahmarzoul: neither do I, and I do not thing anyone would mind having the history recorded on whitequak, since slack records history as well07:50
xiretza[m]in addition to the slack bridge, there's also the libera matrix bridge which is slightly more ergonomic (I'm using it right now)07:58
josuahxiretza[m]: I can tell by the '[m]' it adds to your nick :P09:20
josuah"you've got a bit of chocolate there on the chin"09:20
josuahxiretza: can matrix bridge to Slack directly? I must try that some day, for talking to people from many different networks09:21
xiretza[m]yeah, I'm keeping that intentionally to avoid confusion, there do tend to be some differences between native IRC clients and the matrix bridge09:21
xiretza[m]josuah: yes: https://matrix.org/bridges/#slack09:22
lkcljosuah: there are 40 people on the #f4pga IRC channel at the moment: only 2 of them have "[m]" after them. i am using bnc4you as a relay because it ensures that my IP address is not public and published to the entire world12:53
lkclother people use TOR to ensure that their IP address is not available via "/who"12:56
lkcltoshywoshy, what do you think? would the OpenPOWER Foundation be willing to bridge over to a channel on chat.openpowerfoundation.org mattermost?12:58
josuahbridging protocols... great weapon against https://xkcd.com/1810/13:00
tpbTitle: xkcd: Chat Systems (at xkcd.com)13:00
lkclthat would make it possible to go back in time and review logs13:00
josuahand can lead to this kind of surprising situation: https://xkcd.com/1254/13:00
tpbTitle: xkcd: Preferred Chat System (at xkcd.com)13:00
lkcljosuah, lol. it gets really funny when you see chat systems getting into a bounce-fight13:01
josuahlkcl: nice stats, and I realise the second use of bouncers thanks to this13:01
josuahTIL OpenPOWER13:01
josuahhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPOWER_Foundation <- this one I suppose13:01
tpbTitle: OpenPOWER Foundation - Wikipedia (at en.wikipedia.org)13:01
lkcli've been using IRC for 25+ years and had no idea that it's considered "rude" to use IRC "/who" to find someone's IP address13:02
josuahI do not think it is "rude" in any way13:02
josuahplease, get to know my IP so that we can communicate together13:03
lkclbut if you think about it, it's really intrusive, as it narrows down your geographical location to a cell tower in some cases13:03
josuaheither direictly (my own home/server IP) or indirectly (the one of a bouncer, whatever)13:03
josuahI live in 39 street Notre-Dame 35500 Vitré13:03
lkcl:)13:04
josuahnow you can offer me surprise goodies like an oscilloscope ;)13:04
josuahbut I understand that some prefer to keep their IRC identity distant13:04
josuahthere might also be places where open communication can be seen as subversive13:05
lkclwhich makes IRC logs - and keeping communications entirely open and public - all the more important13:05
lkclif it's logged, then there's "nothing to hide" and it makes accusations of "subversive-ness" moot13:06
josuahI did not think of it that way13:06
lkcli run ircbot on the major channels that i run, for that and other reasons13:07
josuahalso very nice for pointing at public IRC discussions13:07
lkclyes.13:07
josuah(references for building articles)13:07
lkclthe cross-referencing that we have in Libre-SOC, {bugtracker} linking-to {IRClogs} linking-to {wiki} linking to {source code} linking to {mailing list} is quite mad13:08
lkcli can point ircbot at this channel if people are interested.  it's not very pretty, but DoesTheJob(tm)13:08
lkclanother person to ask is Tim Rikers13:09
josuahhttps://libre-soc.org/ looks like a nice project! Is it bound to Chips Aliance or separate?13:09
tpbTitle: libre-soc (at libre-soc.org)13:09
lkcljosuah, fully independent and entirely Libre13:10
lkclwe take direct responsibility for self-hosting.13:11
josuah(I'll keep the discussion going in #libre-soc)13:11
lkclsure, you're most welcome13:11
lkclto put this channel back on track:13:12
lkclhttps://git.libre-soc.org/?p=dev-env-setup.git;a=blob;f=nextpnr-xilinx-install;hb=HEAD13:12
tpbTitle: git.libre-soc.org Git - dev-env-setup.git/blob - nextpnr-xilinx-install (at git.libre-soc.org)13:12
lkclthat's an "automated install" script for nextpnr-xilinx, that's been confirmed functional by running it a number of times now13:12
lkclincluding on UOregon's Server (thanks to the OpenPOWER Foundation and to IBM India Education Course)13:13
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toshywoshylkcl: yes, we can bridge, should I create a general fpga discussion channel15:06
lkcltoshywoshy, with microwatt etc. already being a heavy fpga user, i'd hazard a guess that OPF users/members would be interested, yes16:15
lkclPaul Mackerras wanted to have a go at using nextpnr-xilinx for microwatt, and i think he'd be interested to be able to interact conveniently with people here16:16
lkcly'know what, i might as well run irclog2html, i've already got it set up16:31
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lkclha, there we go, that was easy https://libre-soc.org/irclog-f4pga/16:37
tpbTitle: IRC logs (at libre-soc.org)16:37
lkclmarzoul, josuah ^16:37
lkclit's neither the smartest nor the prettiest, but it's functional and static HTML (very low resource on server and on the browser)16:39
lkclha, if i'd had the logs before now i'd be able to search them and find where that "-nocarry" yosys workaround is :)16:47
lkclcan anyone remember the bugreport that was raised about CARRY4 resources being overrun in both nextpnr-xilinx and symbiflow?16:48
lkclmithro, ^ i remember you commented on it16:48
mithroI remember it was on twitter by a Japanese speaking person 17:02
lkclyeah that sounds familiar17:05
lkclnggh this is exactly the reason why irclogs are useful for any project :)17:14
mithrohttps://twitter.com/1gkojima/status/149645998908259123517:23
mithrohttps://logs.timvideos.us/%23f4pga/17:29
tpbTitle: IRC logs (at logs.timvideos.us)17:29
mithrohttps://logs.timvideos.us/%23symbiflow/17:29
tpbTitle: IRC logs (at logs.timvideos.us)17:29
lkclahh, magic17:35
lkclty17:35
lkclhttps://git.libre-soc.org/?p=openpower-isa.git;a=blob;f=src/openpower/decoder/power_svp64.py;h=ea7f465c9d4f299151e2785b80ab4665f2d87fe9;hb=HEAD#l3317:37
tpbTitle: git.libre-soc.org Git - openpower-isa.git/blob - src/openpower/decoder/power_svp64.py (at git.libre-soc.org)17:37
lkclsorry wrong channel17:37
lkclha. programmerjake found it https://github.com/gatecat/nextpnr-xilinx/issues/3417:59
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